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EPISODE · Sep 1, 2025 · 1H

Fighting the Good Fight: Orthodoxy & BJJ w/ Jeff Messina

from Orthodox Health · host Dr. Michael Kuhn

In this long-awaited episode of the Orthodox Health Podcast, Dr. Michael Christian & co-host John are joined by Jeff Messina: 4th degree Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu black belt, Judo black belt, owner of the Revolution Dojo, paratrooper & infantryman, theology graduate, & newly-illumined Orthodox Christian.Jeff shares his powerful journey from the mat to the Church, weaving together themes of discipline, humility, struggle, & faith. With decades of experience training & teaching, he offers insights on how martial arts can shape not only the body but also the soul... & how Orthodoxy calls men to a higher form of strength: ascetic, sacrificial, & Christ-centered.Takeaways:Struggle shapes our character & faith.Discipline in training parallels spiritual discipline.Community support is vital in both martial arts & faith.Ego can hinder growth in both training & spirituality.The journey of faith is continuous & requires effort.Understanding lineage in faith & martial arts is crucial.Failure is a part of growth and learning.Humility is essential in both training & spiritual life.Accountability helps maintain focus & purpose.Living out one's faith is a daily practice.Why Orthodoxy is, in Jeff’s words, “the Jiu-Jitsu of Christianity.”Soundbytes:“Formation is not just spiritual... it’s also physical.”“The world tells men to dominate or disappear. Orthodoxy calls us to sacrificial leadership.”“You can’t just go once a week: in the gym or in the Church. Faithfulness is daily.”“Orthodoxy is the Jiu-Jitsu of Christianity. If you want the truth, this is it.”Chapters:00:00 Opener01:30 Introduction to the Journey of Faith & BJJ04:36 Jeff Messina's Path to Orthodoxy08:54 Apostolic Succession & Knowing Your Roots11:51 Jeff Messina's Martial Arts Journey17:14 Intersection of BJJ & Orthodoxy22:41 Sola Scriptura & Tradition27:04 The Professor & The Spiritual Father29:24 On Failure, Repetition, & Humility32:00 On Remaining Dispassionate While Fighting35:28 Jeff's Advice to Christians Interested in Martial Arts40:50 Tempering Convert Zeal43:48 Living Orthodoxy: A Compelling Witness46:07 The Selfishness & Pride of "Ritual Purity"52:22 A Call to Orthodox Men & BJJ Practitioners Alike54:19 Where Can You Find Jeff Messina55:46 Closing Thoughts & Looking Ahead58:57 OutroSupport the Show with a One-Time or Recurring donation: ⁠⁠⁠coff.ee/OrthodoxHealth⁠⁠⁠Work with Dr. Mike: ⁠https://www.OrthodoxHealth.com⁠Pre-Order Orthodoxy & The Medicine of the Future: ⁠https://www.orthodoxhealth.com/book⁠Intro & Outro Music: St. John of Chicago Orthodox Church Choir (Arkansas) - Please support their building fund by buying the whole album here:⁠⁠https://stjohnorthodoxchurch.bandcamp.com/album/come-ye-faithful-building-fundraiser⁠⁠

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