EPISODE · May 19, 2026 · 43 MIN
Find Freedom From Hardship | Dr. Anna Lembke | Chung Huong Institute
from Chung Huong Institute Podcast · host Chung Huong Institute ®
0:01 Addiction and Control4:37 Suffering as Identity7:51 The Cage of Habits10:41 Technology and Isolation13:14 Spirituality and Mindfulness17:27 Meditation and Dopamine19:52 Facing Pain Directly23:45 A Transforming Loss27:43 Meeting Suffering31:12 Medication and Mood33:53 Psychedelics and Faith36:25 Prayer Practice37:51 Compassion Over Shame39:22 Endemic NarcissismIn this episode, we speak with Dr. Anna Lembke about addiction, pleasure, pain, and control. We discuss her work as a psychiatrist and professor at Stanford, and her aim in writing about the science of addiction in a way that connects neuroscience with everyday life.We talk about how addictive patterns can begin as pleasure seeking or as a way to escape pain, but can shift into a need for control and manipulation. We also discuss how people can become attached to suffering, because it can feel familiar or protective, even when it causes harm.We explore the effects of compulsive habit loops, including how they can shrink a person’s world and lead to anxiety, shame, boredom, and loneliness. We also discuss technology and social media, and how digital life can make it easier to hyper-engineer experience and avoid face-to-face connections.We talk about spirituality, mindfulness, and recovery. Dr. Lembke describes how surrender, prayer, and a spiritual orientation have shaped her own life, and how she sees 12-step groups as lasting because they embed support and community into daily life. We also discuss meditation, dopamine, and the possibility that even practices meant for healing can become attached to reward.We then turn to suffering, grief, and Dr. Lembke’s personal story of losing her son to leukemia. She describes how that loss led her to stop denying pain and to accept that she was not in control, which became a turning point toward spiritual surrender.We end by discussing self-compassion, self-loathing, and the role of spiritual practice in moving beyond intense self-focus. Dr. Lembke explains that her forthcoming book, Radical Surrender, continues these themes.
What this episode covers
0:01 Addiction and Control4:37 Suffering as Identity7:51 The Cage of Habits10:41 Technology and Isolation13:14 Spirituality and Mindfulness17:27 Meditation and Dopamine19:52 Facing Pain Directly23:45 A Transforming Loss27:43 Meeting Suffering31:12 Medication and Mood33:53 Psychedelics and Faith36:25 Prayer Practice37:51 Compassion Over Shame39:22 Endemic NarcissismIn this episode, we speak with Dr. Anna Lembke about addiction, pleasure, pain, and control. We discuss her work as a psychiatrist and professor at Stanford, and her aim in writing about the science of addiction in a way that connects neuroscience with everyday life.We talk about how addictive patterns can begin as pleasure seeking or as a way to escape pain, but can shift into a need for control and manipulation. We also discuss how people can become attached to suffering, because it can feel familiar or protective, even when it causes harm.We explore the effects of compulsive habit loops, including how they can shrink a person’s world and lead to anxiety, shame, boredom, and loneliness. We also discuss technology and social media, and how digital life can make it easier to hyper-engineer experience and avoid face-to-face connections.We talk about spirituality, mindfulness, and recovery. Dr. Lembke describes how surrender, prayer, and a spiritual orientation have shaped her own life, and how she sees 12-step groups as lasting because they embed support and community into daily life. We also discuss meditation, dopamine, and the possibility that even practices meant for healing can become attached to reward.We then turn to suffering, grief, and Dr. Lembke’s personal story of losing her son to leukemia. She describes how that loss led her to stop denying pain and to accept that she was not in control, which became a turning point toward spiritual surrender.We end by discussing self-compassion, self-loathing, and the role of spiritual practice in moving beyond intense self-focus. Dr. Lembke explains that her forthcoming book, Radical Surrender, continues these themes.
NOW PLAYING
Find Freedom From Hardship | Dr. Anna Lembke | Chung Huong Institute
No transcript for this episode yet
Similar Episodes
Mar 26, 2026 ·1m
Jan 2, 2026 ·47m
Dec 21, 2025 ·46m