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EPISODE · Nov 22, 2025 · 32 MIN

Finding a Third Way in a Divided World

from The Pocket Contemplative · host Dave Schmelzer

Mark Charbonneau and his friends at The Vine church in Austin, Texas are charting a unique way forward in our cultural and religious divisions. Dave Schmelzer talks with him about what their “third way” looks like and how it might help all of us in the middle of such unprecedented divisions. Does it only apply to a small number of people of good will? Does it offer broader hope? They close with a few words about the life of a pastor at all, much less one in the middle of these sorts of cultural divides. Mentioned on this podcast:The Vine church in Austin, TexasJoin the list to receive weekly "Thursday notes" about how the themes we discuss on The Pocket Contemplative might apply to your larger world.

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