EPISODE · May 13, 2026 · 5 MIN
Finding joy in life's messiest moments
from The Morning Show · host LiSTNR
Kate Bowler, author and professor at Duke University, was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer at age 35, prompting her to reconsider conventional self-help approaches to happiness. Her new book 'Joyful Anyway' distinguishes between happiness and joy, arguing that while happiness requires circumstances to go well, joy can coexist with difficulty and sadness. Bowler advocates for embracing both the good and bad in life, suggesting that joy is a moment that convinces you your life is good as it is, even during challenging times.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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