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EPISODE · Sep 4, 2026 · 33 MIN

Five Fire Claims in Six Weeks: Bobby Thomas and Malik Stevens on Killing the Margin vs. Volume Myth

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Malik Stevens believed what everyone says about TPAs. Then he ran five fire claims in six weeks, and the first one billed almost $60,000.In this episode, host Clinton James sits down with Bobby Thomas, CEO of Extreme Services, and Malik Stevens, a Louisiana owner converting his independent company into an Extreme franchise. Bobby came up from carpet cleaning to technician to owner and runs corporately across five states. Malik covers Lafayette, New Orleans, and Baton Rouge.You'll walk away with:Why the margin vs. volume argument doesn't hold up once you run the numbersHow to find margin on a job when the obvious line item isn't billableWhy getting approvals before work starts ends billing fights before they startHow tighter documentation on program work improved every job they runWhat the independent side actually costs you in waiting, guessing, and unpaid workWhy Bobby caps his franchise growth on purposeSubscribe to Restoration Pros Unplugged and visit restorationprosunplugged.com.Running a restoration company and want to get more jobs from your online marketing? Book a free discovery call with Water Restoration Marketing at https://waterrestorationmarketing.com/discovery-call/

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Malik Stevens believed what everyone says about TPAs. Then he ran five fire claims in six weeks, and the first one billed almost $60,000. In this episode, host Clinton James sits down with Bobby Thomas, CEO of Extreme Services, and Malik Stevens, a Louisiana owner converting his independent company into an Extreme franchise. Bobby came up from carpet cleaning to technician to owner and runs corporately across five states. Malik covers Lafayette, New Orleans, and Baton Rouge. You'll walk away ...

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