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EPISODE · Sep 25, 2025 · 20 MIN

Flat Rate vs. Hourly: The Hidden Productivity Trap Killing Auto Shop Margins [E189]

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Thanks to our partners Promotive and Wicked FileAuto shops aren’t going broke because they charge too little—they’re going broke because they’re measuring wrong. In this episode, CPA and host Hunt Demerest unpacks the gap between what your shop management system tells you and what your financials know to be true. From the hidden drag of switching techs from flat rate to hourly to the simple tweak that makes your software reflect real costs, Hunt shows you how to surface the problem (productivity vs. pricing) and correct course—before your margins get cut in half.What you’ll learn:02:20 – Expectation vs. reality: SMS shows 75% gross profit—but QuickBooks shows ~50%.04:38 – The pivot that broke the math: moving techs from flat rate to hourly + production drop.06:52 – Why unchecked hourly pay halves margins—and why it’s so hard to fix later.09:12 – “Productivity” isn’t just techs: counter, invoicing, parts, layout, communication.13:55 – Pricing sanity check: book time vs. your actual time; efficiency vs. productivity.16:04 – The core software issue: SMS assumes techs are only paid when you’re paid.18:23 – The fix: compare SMS “expected” labor cost to QuickBooks actuals and adjust: set a shop-wide uplift % or per-tech rates, include benefits, vacation, unpaid work, bonuses, aim to slightly overstate costs (~5%) so you’re pleasantly surprised at month-end.32:16 – Wrap: Most shops have a productivity and pricing problem—use SMS truthing to see it sooner.Key takeawaysFlat rate manages downside; hourly requires management. If hourly productivity slides from ~40 flagged hours to ~20, your margin vanishes.Don’t let software mask reality. If SMS says 75% gross profit but financials show ~50%, trust the books and recalibrate SMS.Blend the cure. You rarely fix a major productivity problem only with pricing—and you can’t price your way out of operational drag.Make SMS reflect true cost. Start shop-wide: if SMS shows $10k labor cost but QuickBooks shows $12k, increase internal tech rates by +20% (then refine per-tech if needed).Target “conservative accuracy.” Slightly overstating cost protects your bottom line morebthan rosy math ever will.Thanks to our partner PromotiveIt’s time to hire a superstar for your business; what a grind you have in front of you. Introducing Promotive, a full-service staffing solution for your shop. Promotive has over 40 years of recruiting and automotive experience. If you need qualified technicians and service advisors and want to offload the heavy lifting, visit https://gopromotive.com/Thanks to our Partner WickedFileTurn chaos into clarity with WickedFile, the AI for auto repair shops. Transform invoices into insights, protect cash flow, and stop losing parts, cores, or credits to maximize your bottom line. visit https://info.wickedfile.com/Paar Melis and Associates – Accountants Specializing in Automotive RepairVisit us Online: www.paarmelis.comEmail Hunt: [email protected] Paar Melis @ 301-307-5413Download a Copy of My Books Here:Wrenches to Write-OffsYour Perfect Shop Aftermarket Radio NetworkRemarkable Results Radio Podcast with Carm Capriotto: Advancing the Aftermarket by Facilitating Wisdom Through Story Telling and Open DiscussionDiagnosing the Aftermarket A to Z with Matt Fanslow: From Diagnostics to Metallica and Mental Health, Matt Fanslow is Lifting the Hood on Life.The Weekly Blitz with Chris Cotton: Weekly Inspiration with Business Coach Chris Cotton from AutoFix - Auto Shop Coaching.Speak Up! Effective Communication with Craig O'Neill: Develop Interpersonal and Professional Communication Skills when Speaking to Audiences of Any Size.Business by the Numbers with Hunt Demarest: Understand the Numbers of Your Business with CPA Hunt Demarest.The Auto Repair Marketing Podcast with Kim and Brian Walker: Marketing Experts Brian & Kim Walker Work with Shop Owners to Take it to the Next Level.

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