Flock Logic & Leaderful Teams | Step Up, Step Back, Step Together

In this episode of the Engaged By Design Podcast, we welcome back Kathy Hagler and Robin Graham, co-authors of The ABCs of Murmuration.Together, we explore Flock Logic—a powerful nature-inspired framework drawn from the mesmerizing behavior of starlings—and how it applies to leadership, teamwork, and learning organizations.You’ll discover:Why high-functioning groups don’t need a single leader to move togetherThe three natural principles behind murmuration: alignment, separation, and cohesionHow those principles translate into human leadership behaviors: step up, step back, and step togetherWhy trust, awareness, and connection matter more than controlSimple practices leaders and educators can use immediately to create rhythm, flow, and shared responsibilityIf you’re navigating uncertainty, change, or collaboration fatigue, this conversation offers a hopeful and practical path forward—one grounded in nature, humanity, and collective wisdom.Join us at www.engagedbydesign.com to learn more aboutThe Course Design Accelerator Faculty-in-the-Loop AI in Higher Education