Food Safety Talk 54: Rubber Dingus

The show started with Don sharing his recent [Systematic](http://5by5.tv/systematic/76) experience. Ben then wanted some help with a prevalence calculation, as prompted by his undergraduate lecturer [Ronald Brooks](http://www.uoguelph.ca/ib/people/faculty/brooks.shtml). The guys then reminisced about their high school teachers before turning on the freezing weather and frozen food, thanks to [AFFI-CON 2014](http://afficon.affi.org/). In answer to a listener question on the 4-hour rule, Don shared his [recent JFP paper](http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/iafp/jfp/2013/00000076/00000006/art00023). Similar calculations (also by Don) have been used by a Conference for Food Protection (CFP) committee to develop guidance on lack of temperature control during emergency situations. That guidance will be presented as part of the [2014 CFP](http://www.foodprotect.org/). Thanks to the book ["I Wear the Black Hat"](http://www.amazon.com/Wear-Black-Hat-Grappling-Villains/dp/1439184496), Ben has really gotten back into heavy metal, especially [Metallica](https://www.metallica.com/), while Don's been re-reading [The Sandman](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sandman_(Vertigo)). This got the guys into a discussion of [DC Comics](http://www.dccomics.com/) versus [Marvel Comics](http://marvel.com/). In the IAFP History segment the guys covered the 1980's, which saw the introduction of new technologies, like vacuum packaging and irradiation, the emergence of new pathogens, such as [*E. coli* O157:H7](http://www.about-ecoli.com/), [*Listeria monocytogenes*](http://www.about-listeria.com/) and [*Campylobacter*](http://www.about-campylobacter.com/), as well as [zero tolerance](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_tolerance_(trade)). The guys then speculated about the [*Salmonella* Stanley outbreak linked to raw cashew cheese](http://www.cdc.gov/salmonella/stanley-01-14/index.html), before turning their attention to the [Fox and Donkey meat scandal in China](http://www.theatlantic.com/international/print/2014/01/chinas-latest-food-scandal-fox-tainted-donkey-meat/282776/) and the [potential zoonotic food safety risks associated with foxes](http://www.vef.unizg.hr/vetarhiv/papers/2006-76-7-10.pdf). Ben then got a buzz from the [12 Surprising things you can make with a coffee pot](http://www.buzzfeed.com/arielknutson/surprising-things-you-can-make-with-a-coffee-pot), because it reminded of his college days. He's considering including the [poaching chicken in a coffee maker](http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2009/08/macgyver-chef-poached-chicken-and-couscous-in-a-coffee-maker/) as part of the dishwasher cooking research project discussed on earlier episodes. While there was plenty of wacky stuff on the interwebs over the holidays, [this Wall Street Journal article about a frog in a Pret A Manger salad](http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2013/12/30/dead-frog-found-in-pret-a-manger-salad/) got Don all jumpy about Pret A Manger's knowledge about pesticides and food safety. The guys finished the show discussing the Food Safety News article on "[How to Break a Foodborne Illness Story](http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2014/01/publishers-platform-how-to-break-a-foodborne-illness-story/)." In the after dark, Ben shared his work habits and this turned into a discussion of Don and Ben's favourite [Starbucks](http://www.starbucks.com/). The guys then shared some movies and TV shows they like, including [Saving Mr Banks](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2140373/), [American Hustle](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1800241/?ref_%3Dfn_al_tt_1), [Back to the Future](http://www.universalstudiosentertainment.com/back-to-the-future-25th-anniversary-edition/) (I, II and III), [Honey, I shrunk the Kids](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097523/), [Despicable me](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1323594/), [Call the Midwife](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_the_Midwife) and [Last Tango in Halifax](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2216156/).