EPISODE · Aug 7, 2025 · 30 MIN
for... Masculinity, Caleb Williams & Conservative In-Laws 😅
from Holdin’ Space with Z and Lee · host Hosted by Zach Stoner and Lee Gray
In this episode, Z & Lee are holdin space for all the messy, meaningful convos that keep showing up in real life 💭✨We kick things off with some Spice Girls nostalgia 🧡 and summer catch-ups ☀️🍦, then dive into a bigger convo around NFL star Caleb Williams and why his personal style is triggering some very loud opinions 😬👕💅.We unpack the fragility of masculinity, why emotional intelligence still feels taboo for men 🧠💔, and how therapy changes the game. Also on the table: the oh-so-fun challenge of meeting your partner’s conservative parents for the first time 😬🎭 - and what it really means to bridge political gaps in love 💌 vs. values 🌍.🧩 Chapters:00:00 – Spice Girls & Summer Adventures 👯♀️🌴06:36 – Holdin Space for Caleb Williams 🏈👗13:25 – Men, Emotions & Relationship Realness 🧠💞21:21 – Politics, Parents & Partnership 🎭🗳️💬
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