For today's EPIC voyage Frank & Elie are joined by Ngiste Abebe

After discussing the morals of staying in the White House, dumping on David Brooks (henceforth knows as DaBro), the Taking Ship crew is joined by Ngiste Abebe for one epic voyage, more interesting than even Steve Zissou could have dreamed up. The crew talks white nationalism, voter fraud, national security, the importance of learning stuff and that's before they take the time to talk about multilateralism, zero-sum games and the importance of using the whole tool box.