EPISODE · Jul 3, 2025 · 48 MIN
for TS Madison & The Myth of Protecting Women
from Holdin’ Space with Z and Lee · host Hosted by Zach Stoner and Lee Gray
This week, Lee is holding space for the icon, the mogul, the moment — Miss T.S. Madison. Because if you're not saying her name with your chest during Pride Month (or any month, tbh), then what are you even doing? 💁🏾♀️We get into why Maddie matters, and use her as the launchpad for a bigger conversation about how trans people — especially Black trans women — are constantly being politicised, othered, and debated instead of protected, celebrated, or even just left alone.Lee and Z dive into the way toxic masculinity and hypermasculine fear fuel so much of the current transphobia, why the “women’s safety” narrative is often a smokescreen, and how the media stays loud and wrong. 🗞️💨Don’t worry, it’s not all heavy — we wrap with a little kiki about dating, social masks, and why performing someone you’re not just isn’t sustainable (or cute).🕰️ Chapters00:00– Holdin’ Space for T.S. Madison14:41 – Understanding Trans Issues and Societal Norms22:55 – The Debate on Women's Safety and Trans Rights23:49 – Understanding Sexual Offender Statistics24:21 – The Real Issues Affecting Women25:16 – Debating Feelings vs. Facts26:44 – Cultural Discussions and Control of Women28:14 – The Absurdity of Gender Segregation31:16 – Empathy and Independence in Men32:08 – Trans Representation in Media32:27 – Locker Room Conversations and Comfort Levels37:12 – The Hypocrisy of Triggering Anatomy39:09 – Reverse Catfishing: Authenticity vs. Performance
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