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EPISODE · Apr 11, 2026 · 8 MIN

‘Forget Normal, I Want Magic: The 5 Rules of Leadership’

from Down To Business

We all know AI might do some of the day-to-day ‘heavy lifting’ for some tasks, but we still need leaders engaging with their teams. Claire Brumby thinks the human connection that all good leaders should possess will be key to business success. She is also the author of ‘Forget Normal, I Want Magic: The 5 Rules of Leadership’ and joins Bobby to discuss.

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