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EPISODE · Mar 20, 2025 · 59 MIN

Former Archivist of the United States Colleen Shogan Sets the Record Straight

from Mastering the Room · host Colleen Shogan, Casey Burgat

TakeawaysThe National Archives has 43 facilities across the U.S.There are 13.5 billion records in the National Archives.Presidential records are considered permanent records.Over 90% of presidential records are electronic.Only 1-3% of federal agency records are preserved.Records training is mandatory for federal employees.Presidential records are transferred to the Archives after a term ends.The confirmation process can be influenced by political events.Colleen Shogan's background includes significant experience in public service.The nomination process involves extensive paperwork and background checks. Colleen Shogan emphasizes the importance of following the law as Archivist.The nomination process can be politically charged and stressful.Shogan faced a second nomination hearing that felt unnecessary.Traveling to meet NARA employees was a priority for her.She implemented visitor services at the National Archives to enhance public engagement.Accessing presidential records was a unique experience for Shogan.She supported initiatives to digitize artifacts for public access.Her dismissal from the position was unexpected and upsetting.The archivist plays a crucial role in validating electoral documents.Shogan plans to continue her work in civics education.Chapters00:00 Introduction to the Archivist's Role02:50 The Scope of the National Archives06:07 Presidential Records and Their Management08:49 The Process of Record Submission12:08 Colleen Shogan's Journey to the Archivist Position14:56 Navigating the Nomination Process20:08 Confirmation Challenges and Political Dynamics26:32 Navigating the Nomination Process30:01 Becoming the Archivist of the United States32:10 Day-to-Day as Archivist34:21 Accessing Presidential Records37:12 Insights from Presidential Libraries40:51 Dismissal by Tweet44:06 Role of the Archivist in Elections48:22 The Importance of Historical Records51:44 Reflections on Service and Future Plans ABOUT MASTERING THE ROOMMastering the Room is produced by the George Washington University's Graduate School of Political Management and hosted by political analyst and professor Casey Burgat. In less time than the average D.C. morning commute, you'll get an inside take on today’s issues with information and perspectives you won’t get anywhere else.MTR challenges guests to go beyond the Sunday show talking points and offer a deeper understanding of polarizing topics, discussing ideas that few have heard before.Whether you agree with them or not, you’ll see unique arguments from surprising new angles. Packed with influencers, experts, and familiar names in DC and beyond, Mastering the Room is a podcast with access, connections, and proximity to power.  To listen to vintage episodes from the original Mastering the Room podcast, click here. ABOUT CASEY BURGATMastering the Room host, Casey Burgat, is the Director of the Legislative Affairs program at the George Washington University Graduate School of Political Management. Before joining GSPM, Dr. Burgat was a Senior Governance Fellow at the R Street Institute where his research focused on issues of Congressional capacity and reform. Mr. Burgat is known for his regular contributions to scholarly and journalistic publications, including CNN, the Washington Post, and Politico, and has appeared on various television and radio outlets. Dr. Burgat is the author of the 2025 Amazon best-seller  We Hold These "Truths," exploring society's myths and misconceptions about how government works (published by Authors Equity). He's also co-authored Congress Explained: Representation and Lawmaking in the First Branch, a textbook on all things Congress, published by Sage/CQ Press in the fall of 2022.

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In this conversation, Dr. Colleen Shogan, the Archivist of the United States, discusses her role and responsibilities, the vast scope of the National Archives, and the processes involved in managing presidential records. She shares insights into her journey to becoming an archivist, including the nomination and confirmation processes and the political dynamics that influenced her appointment. In this conversation, Colleen Shogan shares her experiences as the Archivist of the United States, detailing the challenges of the nomination process, her day-to-day responsibilities, and the importance of preserving historical records. She reflects on her dismissal from the position and discusses the role of the archivist in the electoral process. Shogan emphasizes the significance of civics education and her commitment to promoting an understanding of government and history.

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