Former White House communications director and host of "Pod Save America" Dan Pfeiffer and Hall of Fame cornerback and NFL Network analyst Deion Sanders.

Pfeiffer on his hot-off-the-presses book "Yes We (Still) Can," on the universal lessons he learned in six years in the grind of the Obama White House that can help people in any business, on the challenges of new journalism, on how conflicted Barack Obama is about being a football fan, and on how he thinks Obama would have handled the NFL's National Anthem conundrum.Sanders on the immense conflict he felt as the best two-sports athlete of the last quarter-century, on how hard he had to work to be a good baseball player when playing football came so easy to him, on his feeling about the term "cover corner," and on the state of the game today. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.