Fort Douglas Haunted 101

In the dead of night, as people sleep, that's when the spirits creep. As the bell tolls three, dark things take power. We like to call it the supernatural hour. And now, our hosts.

I'm gonna burn my dolls hair. Hey everybody, welcome to the supernatural hour. Peaches is a pyromaniac. Hey, we are back.

We had kind of an issue, so we weren't able to record on a normal day. But because we love you guys, all three of you, and we didn't want to miss a show, we are doing kind of a special off show. It's a week late, but it's here and hopefully it won't suck too terribly. Bad.

I'm your host, Castle. We have our fellows with us tonight. We've got Lurch. What up, party people?

We've got Hieker. What's happening? AKA Tim. AKA the Candyman.

I don't know what he's talking about. What's been for the recording? You know what would be funny is you start introducing us. We all just work quiet and then let you talk for like 15 minutes myself, so the listeners thought you were just crazy, and then we started talking.

What was that, Peaches? Hello, hello. Who's playing with the doll? I love my doll.

It's my scary creepy doll. You made creepy dolls today. It's really cool. Yeah, they did.

Well, I was worried about that. It's just got some things to do with it. Somebody AKA Tim. Ring the doorbell.

What's creepy doll? I was posted on my front porch and ran and hid. How's all the vehicle? What's going on?

So that when my living old daughter opened the door, she was met at the door by a creepy voodoo doll. I would have loved to see that. I would have loved to see that. Kind of looking outside like what the hell?

The living on her face. She's 11, so it's pretty like what? What the heck? The living on her face was priceless.

She's like clutching her chest and she was like, you could tell that she was kind of scared and like what the hell's going on. I was just scaling up. So I came around the corner and let her know that she wasn't just freaking out. We also have silent Dawn.

What is that? The Warmest Man. The Warmest Man. The Warmest Man.

The Warmest Man. Which we're using as the end of the day because it's hilarious. What is? Anyway, we are here.

We're going to talk about our 100 101, which that actually went pretty well. That was awesome. That's not what I heard. Did you tell him?

We're not there yet. We're kind of there. We do have another event coming up. As we've talked about, we've got the Paraneral Pottluck.

If you want to come to that we are taking email entries. I will be forthright and honest with everybody. We've received officially one entry, which means we probably have to read listeners. And so that one someone emailed me.

I just didn't tell you about it. Oh, so Sandy, Rosier, I hope I mispronounced your last name, Sandy, will be coming to the Pernormal Potluck. Maybe I'll. Actually three.

The guy that I invited last year and forgot to give me info, he has it this year. He'll be here this time. So if anybody else is interested, email us. And like I said, we'll go over it.

If we get too many, which at this point doesn't seem like it's going to be an issue, we will go through and decide who's coming. Make it interesting and bring food, be creative. Someone told me they're bringing red velvet hamburgers or red velvet fried chickens. Probably Mike Finley.

No, it was actually a listener that contacted me. That's awesome. So he wants to bring red velvet fried chicken for castle. So we've got a couple things to talk about tonight.

Let's talk about the haunted 101. That actually is pretty interesting. We had a before Douglas. We had it in their mini theater.

We learned a couple things. It's our first lecture event that we've done. We did a lecture and we did a mini investigation after. Dan and I actually presented.

And it actually went really well. A couple things we learned is that that little particular venue that we chose was a little smaller than we anticipated. It was definitely. We were jammed in there like sardines.

We also learned that as awesome as that new building is that climate controls in that particular little theater were lacking. We were based in our own green. It was dusty. But the event went really well for two hours.

We showed video. We showed photos. We showed EVPs. We answered questions about ghost stuff.

It actually was very, very good. We've discussed doing another similar event. And we'll be doing it probably sport Douglas, but not in that particular room. It'll be a little bit larger, well, significantly larger place with a little bit more leg room and some actual climate controls so that we won't be dying less sweat.

After we did the 101 lecture, we actually broke up into groups and did some investigations at Fort Douglas. It was nice because we had what roughly 27 people, 25, give or take. Well, you had 25 people crammed in that little room. Yes, we did.

I was thinking like maybe 10 or 12 of the max, but you like tripled the occupancy. Well, we lost staff. I know, right? Now, in our defense, we thought that we had 25 seats in there.

And so we thought, well, there's 25 seats and we can squeeze in one or two more chairs. So a couple people want to solve that. Can we still get in? I'm like, yeah, we can get a couple chairs in there.

Why not? Standing room only in the back. So we bring your own towel. We told a couple people they could pay at the door and then I got there.

I was counting on like 17, 18, 19, uh-oh. But there was room to get everybody in. And I think we only had one person that was supposed to come that didn't. Right.

And that was, I believe, Dave Ward. He had some power issues, which I discussed that with him after. We got that all figured out and worked out. But it was a great event.

We broke into, was it three or four groups? Three. Because three groups. We did little 20-minute segments in three different parts of the building and then kind of did it free for all investigation.

It went to 11 o'clock. And it was actually an amazing investigation. We had a ton of activity. Do you want to tell us about your investigations, Dan?

Yeah. So the group that I took around, I took around all the ones that had not been investigating before. It was their first time. And there was one, you know, a friend of one of the beginners had actually investigated before.

But they had a really good experience. We went, one of them had the dowsing rods. And we had some good, what's the word I want? Huh.

Rodding. He had some great running activity. We had some routing activity. No, that went really well.

But the fun thing is I told them, I said, don't get so wrapped up into looking at the rods and looking at your equipment that you forget to look around. That's what she said. And it's like the six-year-old of me is like, having a hard time not interrupting. So I keep going.

I'm going to talk to her. You already talked to Granny Cinnamon. So. Wow.

Anyway, but they did a really good job. We had two of them. Two of the beginners actually saw some shadow play and full body operations. They saw shadows walking.

And I also have to give them credit. They tried to debunk it. They weren't, ooh, I saw something. I mean, they really thought through it and made sure no one was walking over there.

And they also got some pretty good EDPs. I have one with me. I don't know if we can put it up on the website and hear it later. But I mean, it's just a no whisper.

But it's a direct answer to a question that I asked. So I think we'll put it up on the website. And then people can download the list. I do it here.

But I'll be honest with you guys. I know all our listeners love EDPs. So I have to put a billion pieces in insert EDP files directly so that you can hear them. I'm sorry.

I can't hear your whining over the sound of sad violin music. Do you want some cheese with that wine? Trust me. Post-production on an EDP show is a lot of work.

And I'm just too lazy for that. But we did learn one thing because this listener sent in or the one of the participants sent in to EDPs. And it's interesting because one definitely is based on everything that we know. And the other one kind of sounds like me.

So because we don't know for sure. And I would love to say that I never was running an investigation. But I can't say that. So because we're unsure.

I still think I still want to have a guilt for an investigation. I don't think so. But if it wasn't me, it's kind of cool. I haven't told them way too loud and I need a quiet dump.

I believe that. I don't doubt that for a moment. Yeah, in fact, I actually have been putting out surveys after a lot of these events just to get people's feedback. And I added a new question on this last survey just to kind of see what, if anybody had any personal experiences that they didn't share with us prior to leaving.

I think this may have been the group you're talking about. We've set off. We had great results using dowsing rods over by the display of case of helmets. We also caught an EDP in German.

Lots of EDPs. We'd love to share them with events paranormal. One that really jumps out to me was one by the concrete piece of the World Trade Center. Where an EDP says, help us.

Is that something after that? I'm entirely sure exactly. So I know there's a lot of EDPs. Mike Finley sent me a couple EDPs.

I haven't had a chance to listen to him. I'm sorry they're in my inbox. I haven't even opened him so I don't forget. I've had a tremendously busy week and a half.

So I have not had a chance to dig in and listen to those. But that will happen. One of our guests said, I did hear a scream along with a few others and caught on recording. But not sure what the screen came from.

I'm not sure why anyone outside would have screamed like that. So they basically caught a scream on recording. But they can't take a logical reason why somebody would scream, which makes sense. I mean, you don't normally go outside and hear screaming.

Like curling scream? Yeah, unless you're driving by a great school playground at 2 in the afternoon recess and you're a little kid screaming. But normally you don't hear screaming unless you're a woman walking along in your parking bag. Or it's an EDP of a soldier dying because it's attached to some sort of piece there.

All right. So I got another one that says, in the basement, while trying to talk with Charlotte, my K2 meter went crazy, my husband's hand. No other meters were picking up anything else. So that's down in the basement by the tombstones.

There's a bunch of old tombstones in the basement. Oh, yeah. Is that Charlotte the Harlot? That would be Charlotte the Harlot.

Yeah. She wasn't really participating. That's because she was mad that you guys call her a prostitute. I didn't call her a prostitute because she was a clown.

I called her a lady at the evening. She didn't like that evening. Well, that's what she was and she didn't know she was. I thought she'd call her a student.

Well, yeah, but I don't go around calling you, you know, Lurch the Mortician. I just call you Lurch. Just call her Charlotte. That's her name.

I was like, hey, that's Charlotte. You know the prostitute, Charlotte. Hey, that's my friend Tim. He makes yogurt.

Right? Tim the yogurt maker. You don't need to keep saying someone's professional over and over again. From henceforth, you shall be known as Tim the yogurt maker.

The slothwhistler moniker is being retired. That's how I will refer to you. Tim, the yogurt maker. The yogurt maker.

Oh, okay. I'll put yourself up for that one, didn't you? All right. Castle the crosswalk guy.

Wait, he said crosswalk. You're going to say crosswalk. You're going to say crosswalk. Castle the crossdresser guy.

You're a fed jandere Hoover. You ever see that Rocky Horror Pitcher show? Yeah. Castle does that every year.

He dresses up as Tim Curry's character. What's a doctor? Frank and we need to freakin' weedy. Frank and further.

Doctor Frank and further. I know why it's different. I have to go. I was in California.

There was another person that they saw in operation. I was actually out of finger walk by. It was actually a very active night. Which is really nice because we had had a couple of slow investigations.

So it was really nice to see a lot of activity, especially considering it's such a short investigation. Well, just a little interesting note. It was kind of a dark and stormy night. There was a dark and stormy night.

There was rain and lightning. It was a little bit of a dark and stormy night. It was a little bit of a dark and stormy night. It was a dark and stormy night.

There was rain and lightning. That's when we usually get a lot of good results. There's storms going on. That's static charge in the air.

I think that really provides a lot of energy for whatever's there in the building. So that's exciting. It's always good when you have a very active night and you get a lot of evidence. You had some more activity too that you didn't mention.

One of the groups had some dowsing rods that K2 meter and it goes to meter pro. And they were all responding to questions at the same time. That's very cool. I don't know if that was my group in particular.

But our group had a couple of things. I think it was a lot of things. I think it was a lot of things. I think it was a lot of things.

I think it was a lot of things. I think it was a lot of things. It was the families. It was my country.

But our group had a couple of different things that it would answer on. There were a couple of different things. Like I said for a two hour investigation. It was kind of crazy.

The biggest complaint that I heard from people is that I wasn't there. They were really sad that I couldn't be there. Because I said you're boring. It's genuinely quite preferable for one person as people.

Doing the presentation. Hey, there's two of them. And it doesn't count if you're counting yourself. There was two people that told me.

And your little heavy, but I don't know if I referred you as two people. I was there when this happened. There was two people that told me and they missed me and they wished I was there. I even have it in text messages.

Now we should have another one. Not too far out. In my opinion, I thought it was a really fun event. All the feedback we got was positive.

If you didn't come, you missed out. Also, if you didn't look at it, the ticket prices are significantly lower than the offer for full investigation. So we will be doing that again. We also have an investigation coming up on October 27th, which is a Saturday, right before Halloween.

It will be a full investigation. It will be at Fort Douglas. And good time should be had by all. Do you know what we're doing stuff before that though?

We are. Do you want to talk about it? Yeah. We're talking about it.

Stuff and things. On April 5th, we will be helping lead an investigation at the Fort Douglas Military Museum alongside of our friends with Bear River Paranormal. Special guests, investigators will be Ben Hanson and Chip Coffee. So, lots of celebrity investigators there.

So, where can they find tickets for that, Tim? On the interwebs. I've been posting them on our Both Our Facebook pages and on my personal page. I'll be reposting their sharing those events again.

I know it's their event, right? You can find it through the Utah Paranormal Expo. They're the ones that are actually putting on the event. They've asked us to help lead the investigation, like is it, with Bear River Paranormal?

And the following day, October 6th will be the Utah Paranormal Expo. And we will be there. Bear River Paranormal will be there. Sean and Michelle, those crystals and more, will be there selling crystals.

You'll also have other celebrities that will be there. Again, Chip Coffee will be there. He'll be done in gallery reading that night. Tickets are on sale for that as well.

I'll be linking those as well. So, people can get to those. I think those are like $35. He's amazing.

I mean, I've seen a couple things that he's done on TV and he is just really amazing. I've seen him on Paranormal State. He seems like he's pretty legit. I haven't shown him any of his videos to Brandon yet.

He doesn't seem like he's legit. Again, Ben Hanson will be there. They will have, there's an author, the rights like Paranormal Metaphysical Books. Embroids when Task of L will be there.

If I remember correctly, I believe Alien Dave is going to be there. Alien Dave? Alien Dave? Not here, man.

Great loss and the Paranormal Detective will be there. And the one that I'm actually really excited for, if you guys have seen the Conjuring, the eldest daughter Andrea Perin will be there as well. Conjuring. It should be an exciting lineup and they're going to hold that, I believe, at Fort Douglas.

Yeah, that's going to be Fort Douglas. That's why we were talking about the location to investigate. We figured out that Fort Douglas would be a perfect place to do it because you have the investigation the night before and then the event on Saturday at Fort Douglas as well. That's going to be like in the general's quarter to something like in the ballroom there.

General Mission is only going to be like $10. Wow. And I think if you want to see the chip coffee reading, I think it's like $35. I'm not 100% sure on that price, but I do know the general mission for the Expo is only $10.

I've actually investigated the general's quarters of there where they're doing this. The venue where they're holding it is actually very haunted. It's a place where I basically saw a really bright white light and I wasn't having a near-death experience. There's a bunch of us in the room, the light just kind of formed and then it was gone.

It's the same building I saw visible orb glowing with my eyeballs floating around on the floor. A lot of activity in that building, a lot of activity in that building. So the building itself with their holding this is incredibly haunted too. Also, they asked me to kind of spread the word on this and I've been slacking on Facebook, but they do have some vendor booth room available.

So if you are interested in being a vendor at the YouTube channel Expo, I should be an email at Timitwist.org and I'll get you the information you need. Excellent. Next on our agenda. TimtheOgertMaker.org.

Tim is big. Tim is big thing.com. Tim is big thing.com. That's an actual website.

It actually is a website. I'm not quite sure what's on it. It just links you to Wist.org. It's work friendly.

Speaking of Tim the OgertMaker, you just came back from a little bit of a jaunt. A jaunt? A holiday, if you will. I went to California for a week.

Tell us about your trip, because you went to some kind of cool places. Well, I went to Disneyland. It was cool. It was cool.

It was fun. I found the portal room on the Mark Twain boat. You go on the second level there. There's where the bar would be.

It's got mirrors that face each other. There's like four or five mirrors that are all down, and they have another set on the other side. They got the portal room on the Mark Twain ride. The haunted mansion, as far as I could tell, was not haunted.

I didn't really pick up on a whole lot of spirits at Disneyland. There is a people. Well, yeah, people, but not spirits that actually reside there. Every year, I don't even know the stats, but every year people try to bring in, cremated remains of their loved ones, and put them in either haunted mansion or powered by the Caribbean.

They have so many security cams around there. They can see everything. They like dust bust everything. If you're trying to sprinkle smashes in there, they're only going to be there for maybe a day or two before they get swept away.

I'm going to put them in the flowers somewhere. We did go to Universal Studios. That was so much fun. The thing that I'm pretty sure you guys all want to hear about is we drove up to San Jose, and we visited the Winchester Mystery House.

I was actually really surprised when I got there. For some reason I had it in my mind, it was out in the middle of a field somewhere by itself. Not thinking that there was going to be the entire city that's built around this house. San Jose, California.

This city is literally built around this house. There were songs written about the city. Do you know the way? San Jose?

Never mind. I'm just not as old as you. So, Touche. We got there, and it was really cool because we were walking in a gift shop and a little cafe there.

We decided that we were going to eat at the cafe so we could say we ate at the Mystery House. It was actually really good. So if you're out there, you can get up the cafe there. It's really good food.

Turkey, apple, brie, panini, and so good. So what type of things did you see in the Winchester House? What were some of the highlights? When we were sitting there eating, I could actually kind of fill somewhere some of the spirits were at.

There was nothing in here, no type 3's. There was all type 1's and type 2's. Outside of the house, I could kind of pinpoint where those were at, but once we got inside, I couldn't fill anything. Other than when we first got in the carriage room, I could kind of sense one of the bottom of the stairs and brandy confirmed it was there, but once we got into the house, the whole energy of the house just changed.

She could still see them, but as far as the way I work, it's kind of like a sonar. I send out a signal and when it bounces off a spirit, that's how I know where they're at. And I also think you may be with all of the activity going on there. It's been on Ghost Adventures two or three times and they've done some pretty crazy stuff there and I'm trying to make a portal and stuff.

I wouldn't be surprised if there's some sort of protective energy over there now. There's definitely something there because I was filling energy where there was no energy and when there was energy, I couldn't fill it. I guess that would be the best way to describe it. It's kind of like a vortex of energy swirling around the paranormal safe zone.

Can I compare a normal bermuda triangle of sorts? I like my term better, paranormal safe zone. Trey Mark. I haven't talked for minutes to say something.

I get it. I've got it. I've got it. I've got it.

I've got it. I'm calling Tim Tim the bat because he's got sonar that says I'm just going to start calling the bat. Tim the yogurt making bat. Well, not right now.

I'm actually on medical leave. So I'm just I'm Tim that I sit at home on my butt. We're not making yogurt. And now our host on Supernatural Hour, Granny Cinnaman.

Tim that sit on his butt at home yogurt making. Don't risk bring bat. Don't risk bring bat. I've got something down there.

Tim the late oldling stone was spring sitting on his butt. Bitter. Bigger. Everybody.

Okay. It was fun. We did both tours. So we did the regular tour that they offered.

I think we started a new tour this year called the Explore More Tour. But it actually took him to a lot more rooms at the house. It was actually really cool. We actually went into the basement like the seller underneath the house.

I scared the crap of a little girl. I was like, okay. So this they say that there was a ghost down there. But there was one.

It was on one of the mail. He used to do like the fire. Like the heath the house. The thing.

So the broiler down there and all that crap. So he was like the Freddy Krueger. But you were down there. Yeah.

He died. And when he was down there and I could see him in the corner. And so I was like, I want to see him. I'm like, okay, if you go and you look to your left.

How old is this girl now? I don't know. I already know what you're going to do. She already walked up to the door where she's like going to go so far.

And he's like staring at it, squinting her eyes and she could see it. And they had a light that was triggered to flick her down there to freak people out. It started going off and she like pissed her pants. So it's just like round her grandfather.

And I was like, oh my god, I'm so scared. Okay. Good times. Yeah, they were.

They were really nice. They actually got into our group half an hour ahead of when they were actually supposed to be in it. Because our group was so small. And we started talking to him after the tour and kind of explained to him what we do and talked to him a little bit about the paranormal.

You played them some evidence? It was funny because they treated us like we were celebrities. Like they gave us hollocks and we'd like, can we take a picture? Can we get pictured with you?

We're just like, sure. We're just nobody's out of Utah. But hey, if that's what you want to do. What else?

Okay. They're a really cool family. So the real question I'm sure everybody wants to know is how many spirits were in that building? The answer is yes.

False. True. Actually, I think the real question would be 20. There's about 20 spirits.

Yeah. Oh, interesting. Cool. Do you have a chance to speak with her?

No. No, they moved us along pretty quickly. Yeah. The tours were pretty fast.

They put you along. It's an hour long tour. But the house is so big. Yeah.

And she just likes to watch other people run through her house. That's kind of cool. I got it. She's just like, I mean, from what I said on the tour, there was not a whole lot of people that visited the house when she was alive.

And I think that she's fascinated by the fact now that so many people are interested in the house that she built. Because back then, people thought she was freaking crazy and didn't want anything to do with her. But now you got all these people that are coming in the house and making her feel good. That's cool.

Yeah. And I just watched on the group. So you're going to her house is so crazy with the stairs and everything. And it's not all person friendly just so you guys know.

I was not. I mean, it's more people because she was like four or eleven. So it was built around her son like as a person. So I was okay.

Four or eleven. I can watch her at a time. Well, they've got some high-rise steps that are only like two inches tall because towards the end of her life she had really bad arthritis and couldn't pick a few. Easy riders.

Easy riders. So they basically took out some of the normal stairs and put in these little tiny like two inch stairs. So to get to like nine feet above us to the second floor, we had to go on, it was like 70 stairs across like 100 feet. Yeah, I think I've seen a picture of that.

If you've seen the movie, the Winchester movies, it's that little stairway where the switchbacks. Yeah, the switchbacks and the doctors are trying to get out of their shoes. You can get out of the rooms. It's kind of awesome.

Yikes. So a lot of the rooms in the actual Winchester movie, the horror film that came out of this year, were modeled on the actual house, which I thought was really cool. And she had so many different kinds of wall textures in every room. I knew what I'd spend so day like a dollar a piece, a three dollar a piece like a square foot.

Oh, wow. She had one room where there was a wooden floor that was put together. It took one guy like a year to put together this one floor. Because of all the detail of the different colors of wooden.

And there was like different styles of ones that were being connected together. Oh, interesting. And that's turn of the century dollars. Yeah, exactly.

Three dollars back then. And she made a thousand dollars a day plus what he had left her. Which back another thousand dollars a day. She had so much money.

Oh, yeah. And she paid her people that worked for her. She let them live there and eat there and sleep there. And then she paid them like three dollars a week or something like that, which was really good.

It was double with the going right for everybody else. I mean, even by today's standards, a thousand dollars a day is good money. Yes. Yeah, I wouldn't mind making five thousand dollars a week.

Yeah, me either. Yeah, she didn't take being questioned very well. You lose your job for that. Yeah, she was nice to her people and they were loyal to her.

But if you questioned her, well, you were gone. Yeah, it'll make sense. I mean, she also didn't like having her photo taken. So there was actually one photo of her on a carriage that I said someone like, snap took a quick shot on it.

But other than that, there was no other photos of her from the time that she lived in the house. She didn't like having her picture taken. And their daughter died. She had a small child and died as an infant.

It was like, it was a girl and it was named Annie. So Annie was excited about that. And I was like, oh, good Lord. Here we go.

Awesome. So anything else exciting happen on your trip or the wind search dimension? Yeah, Annie thought Brandy was going to die. Yeah, she kept booking me while we were trying to eat lunch about, you know, some of the grumpy experience that were there.

And I'm just like, I'm just chill out. They have a little small museum there that showcases some of the firearms from Winchester throughout the years. There's a ton of rifles and stuff in there. So Annie is a slave to wall.

Annie was afraid that one of the spirits was going to somehow load one of the rifles and shoot Brandy with it. Okay, calm down. Interesting. She gets ever protected.

I know, it's never happened. No, it sounds like you guys had a fun trip. It's definitely worth it. If you go out there, I mean, the tour for the two tours, all together was like $50 a person.

And that ends up being like a two-hour tour. That's why not bad for the two. We're a tour. So when they look at Faze and Land, it's pretty good.

And they have a lot of souvenirs like hoodies and jackets and t-shirts and magnets and they have penny smashing things. They have the old fashioned, the fortune tell them thingy. Zoltar. Yeah, and they have like a play of piano and all this other crap.

I mean, to ask you guys too, because I had never listened to the episode where you guys went to the Zach Vagan's Museum. I was there in Las Vegas a couple weeks ago and I almost went. How long is the tour exactly? Because I know the ticket price is about $40 per person, but I'm figuring if it would be worth it, it was like an hour at least.

At least an hour. That's about 90 minutes. It's actually a pretty good size home. I drove by it a couple times and you only see part of it when it's on Ghost Ventures.

But it wraps all the way around the block and it's a long, lengthy building. It was a mansion at the time of early Las Vegas. And there's a basement down there where all the negative stuff is. It would have been nice if you could have had some free rein.

I didn't get why they didn't. But the tour guides were very entertaining and told you a lot of history. If you ask questions about some stuff that they didn't talk about, they were really good to answer it. And they did give you enough time in each room.

They would point things out, but they did give you a few minutes. It wasn't nearly enough time. But a few minutes if there were some things that you wanted to go take a look at for a few minutes, you could. I didn't mean to get off topic there with what you guys were talking about just to question the pop in my mind, because you mentioned how long the tour was.

I think that's right on top of it. They keep making exit through the gift shop, all that fun stuff. So speaking about your trip, Tim, I understand you got a new stone. I got one.

There's like 15 of them here. A new stone. One, two, three, four, five, six, there's lots and lots of stones. You always count after seven.

Tim, the stone hoarder. Hey, Tim, the yogurt making bad stone hoarder. Oh, Jesus. I got to make sure I have what I need to help people when they need help.

So tell us about the bear stone, because I see a stone ship like a bear. That's my favorite. That's my bear. Can you tell us about it?

No, it's only since. He just says we're all. We're all out of a bear. Michelle told me what kind of stone it was.

So I'll describe it while you're looking it up. It's kind of a jade-ish colored green bear, and it's carved. It actually looks like it's pretty detailed work. And it is a...

She says it's a laborer date. I kind of have a laborer date. I got mine in Moab, and it does not look like a bear. Just like it looks like a rock.

So the thing that I thought was cool with this is when I picked it up, well, I first got to John's shop and I was sitting there, and I was kind of looking at him. I'm like, hey, you've got a stone that's like either green or blue in color, or maybe a mix between the two of them, then I'm supposed to have. And I kind of picked out a couple you might see a couple other stones that are green or blue in color that I picked out, but I'm pretty sure it was the bear as long as I actually needed the most. When you hold it in the light just right, you'll see it turn blue.

It's kind of cool. But when I picked it up, I saw this vision of me doing an energy healing session with somebody and sending the bear out. And as soon as I set the bear out, an actual spirit bear came out of the crystal, kind of standing guard and watching to make sure that no negative spirits or whatever or energy or anything could interfere with what we were doing. Interesting.

So I was able to commit to Shawn to actually sell me the crystal and I confirmed with Brandy when I showed her the stone. I'm like, hey, is there anything with this? And she's like, no. And I'm like, well, let me tell you what I saw.

And she's like, oh, yeah, you found your spirit animal. So like you have your spirit animal with, you know, raw or Tim's a bear. My animal's a bear. My spirit animal's bear.

A bat bear. Not just a bear. I'm going a bat bear. Oh, I like that too.

You're not number bat. Isn't that a DD care? No, bear owl. What's DD care?

What's the answer? I got a new skull. I got my obsidian bear man. My ocean jasper.

It's more labored. I had some human tights. What's that kind of cool one that's kind of white with the weird kind of circling line? That's ocean jasper.

Interesting. Here, let me show you listeners. See, this is what it looks like. There you go.

So can you hear the way that sounds? That stone actually helps. It's a healing stone. It feels like chocolate milk.

And apparently it feels like it makes the young hungry for chocolate shake. It helps relieve past stresses and impasse issues. Give me that stone. It helps you like move on.

It helps you like move on from spinning and spinning and spinning. Smooth. Is that your foot done? Playing a little fizzy there.

We both got a bear feet on. Is there anything else you want to cover before we move into fun? That didn't make sense. We have bear feet on.

You can know what I was talking about. You're the right to bear on. Why not bear feet? You guys are crazy.

Okay. Disneyland is a little bit haunted. We got a creepy-ass doll. I would believe that.

Tell us what about haunted Disney and they don't move into the fun stories. Haunted Disney is mostly people who came there with other people. So the touch-ups. So Disneyland itself technically is a haunted but just lots of spirits that came with people.

Right. Some of them stay and some of them don't. You know, I was going to say if I was a spirit hang around and I got taken Disneyland, I don't know how interested I'd be in leading Disneyland. I'd probably just hang out in Disneyland and ride to the Caribbean.

Dizzy and I was born in a universal. Which expensive is held when I did not. I'm not sure you're dead. You know, I'm going to start hitting DI more often for creepy looking dolls to convert into these kind of projects.

Looks like a lot of fun. This like you just went to the store in Boston. Yeah. Seriously.

A buck each or something. I'm going to say it's oppressed. I have things I need to do for mine. I'm going to do a little gel stuff that she had.

I'm like, oh, I tried to do like porcelain like cracked skull and I couldn't get it right. So I just started playing with the paint and I'm like, oh, I've got an open wound. That's cool. Yeah, backstories for dolls.

And then she put on this gel. And then they put on this like gel. Gel some stuff to use because the company is actually like a fax company. They do make up for movies and stuff like that.

So I swear the gel on there to make it actually look like an open wound. Cool. I think it would be a fantastic idea. It's just gluten.