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Digital transformation has hit a threshold. In this episode, Lochner Eksteen is joined by complexity practitioner Sonja Blignaut and Salesforce’s Stephen Wardle to discuss why our obsession with "efficiency" is making us fragile. We move beyond the "Zoo Mind"—the need for absolute control—and explore the "Jungle Compass". Stephen introduces the Encyclopedia, Playground, and Magazine model of AI, while Carien Human defines the physical resilience needed to lead through a collective rite of passage. In this episode, we dive deeper into:Zoo vs. Jungle: Why your GPS won't save you in a complex environment. Companion Technology: Why the real ROI of AI is removing human anxiety, not replacing human workers. The Threshold Space: Navigating the "liminal" reality where the old world is dead but the new hasn't arrived. Chapters:00:00 – Cold Open: The Zoo Mind vs. The Jungle Compass 08:00 – Complexity, Thresholds and Chaos26:00 – AI as the Ultimate Wingman 45:00 – The Stomach and Chest Arch (Resilience in Action) 58:00 – Finding Your Jungle Guide Connect with us:🌐 Website:https://firstprinciplethinking.org/📱 on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@firstprinciplepodcast

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