Francesco Cipollone -- Application Security Posture Management and the Power of Working with the Business

Francesco Cipollone, CEO of Phoenix Security, joins Chris and Robert to discuss security and explain Application Security Posture Management (ASPM). Francesco shares his journey from developer to cybersecurity leader, revealing the origins and importance of ASPM. The discussion covers the distinction between application security and product security, the evolution of ASPM from SIEM solutions, and ASPM's role in managing asset vulnerabilities and software security holistically. Francesco emphasizes the necessity of involving the business side in security decisions and explains how ASPM enables actionable, risk-based decision-making. The episode also touches on the impact of AI on ASPM. It concludes with Francesco advocating for a stronger integration between security, development, and business teams to effectively manage software security risks.Connect with Francesco Cipollone:→ Phoenix Security→ Cyber For BuildersMentioned in this episode:→ Phoenix Security→ Cyber For BuildersFollow the Application Security Podcast:➜ Home➜ X➜ LinkedIn➜ YouTube➜ Instagram➜ FacebookChapters:00:00 Meet Francesco Cipollone: Application Security Posture Management and the Power of Working with the Business08:10 That's helpful. I'm, I'm asking this question of lots of people10:25 Frank, today we're going to be talking about, uh, what is13:06 You, let's, let's put the, the, let's go back in history17:51 I want to, I want to explore another avenue that you've23:06 Sure. Uh, so one question we wondered about in terms of25:52 Yeah. So let's, um, let, let's kind of summarize. When we27:31 I heard inventory was one big piece, so one of the29:34 All right. Well, one other question we have is, I think31:43 Yeah, I could see the kind of the pattern matching summarization35:04 All right. Uh, our second question is, uh, what would it