EPISODE · Sep 15, 2026 · 1H 2M
Frank Turek: The Nightmare Is When I Wake Up
from The Greg Laurie Show · host Greg Laurie
Frank Turek was near Charlie Kirk on the day he was killed at UVU. A year later, he sits down with Greg to talk about grief, evil, and what Charlie's legacy means for the church now. From there, the conversation opens up into Frank's new book, The War on Reality (co-written with Phoenix Hayes, with a foreword by Erika Kirk), and the cultural questions Frank is hearing most on college campuses today. In this episode:- The night Charlie was killed and what Erika said to Frank at the hospital- Why the top three objections to Christianity today are all about morality- The transgender conversation, detransitioners, and what to actually say to your kid- Why socialism keeps making a comeback on campus- The rise of antisemitism after October 7th- AI, hallucinations, and the "Madagascar" test that failed 33 out of 35 students- Plus: Beatles trivia, desert island songs, and Greg's awkward encounter with Ringo Learn more about Frank's book at thewaronreality.com. Subscribe for new conversations every week. Timestamps: 00:41 Remembering Charlie Kirk one year later02:26 Why it's not PTSD — it's normal grief04:11 Evil, eternity, and the ripple effect07:16 Erika Kirk: "Don't let his legacy die"09:53 How campus objections shifted to morality14:10 Is the church feeding the war on reality?18:34 The trans social contagion and detransitioners22:03 Questions to ask a child who says "I'm trans"25:38 Why socialism keeps making a comeback29:13 Ten reasons Christians must engage politically32:51 The hidden dangers of AI hallucinations37:20 The spiritual roots of rising antisemitism44:09 Go-to verses for stress and suffering49:42 One last sermon: glorified or horrified53:35 Beatles rabbit hole and witnessing to Ringo59:10 Why he wrote The War on Reality Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
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