Free Shannon

And welcome inside the Caravan of Lore, or as we like to say here, the Caravan of the Library of Lore. Thank you for joining us tonight. Our episode that you will listen to very shortly here is a call in show that we did. We titled it Free Shannon, Jennifer and Myself.

In our own way of the day and age of protests over everything, Shannon and myself and Jennifer all conversed with each other. And between Jennifer and myself, we figured, you know, let's have our own demonstration for Shannon going to jail without any warning. And she was rather taken back by it over at into the Fray Radio and she wasn't even able to post comments in her own group that she created. She got locked out for one week and I think that's kind of unfair.

At least give the podcasters a little bit of warning before they approach any kind of jail time. That's fine to go ahead and punish somebody, but you really should send them a warning first. But anyway, this isn't gonna get on a soapbox type of show. This is just our support for Shannon Legro over at into the Fray Radio.

You know, she's a really good friend of mine and I know she's a good friend of most of you that are listening. If you haven't had a chance yet, I would encourage you to go listen to any episode of into the Fray Radio. And all new episodes air every Thursday at 7pm Pacific Standard Time. The Caravan library.

Of lo course we posted our Free Shannon call in show. And of course every time somebody used that term free Shannon, well, Jennifer and myself had to take a alcoholic beverage shot. My shot of choice was a coffee liqueur and Jennifer was doing shots of rum, undiluted of course. And of course by the end of the show we had a smile on our face and we felt a little bit better about Shannon sitting in jail and us not.

Anyway, this was our support to her. I hope you enjoy it. We had three fabulous guests call in the show and of course we all discussed some really interesting subject matters and I think you're find one of them from Jerrah Best. His encounter that he just had last week, it's.

It was scary. I don't know any other word that would metaphorically describe what he told us. But if any of you listening have ever had or heard an event similar to what happened to Jarrah, I would greatly appreciate it. And you know, you can put it in the comments and then I'll share with Jara or Jarrah will pick up on it on his own.

Sean Forker, the fork Chop Forker. Over at Arcane Radio was gracious enough to call our show. If you are not familiar with Arcane Radio, well, Sean is the maestro behind Arcane Radio and it too is a favorite podcast of mine. I have listened to just about every episode.

Apparently, though I missed an early episode when Sean had shared an encounter that he had. But he's gonna be on the Caravan Library of Laura show. That'll be coming up soon. We haven't set a date yet, but that'll be happening soon.

And you know, he's a wonderful guy as well. I can't say anything bad about anybody in this community. There's just nobody that's involved in the Caravan or in the into the Fray radio or Arcane Radio or Somewhere in the Skies podcast. Everybody's just so gracious and warm and friendly and informative and intelligent.

And the list does go on. And last but not least, Bobby Richard joined us from Modesta, California. He called in and shared kind of a gruesome quicktail at the beginning of the call in show. Kind of was a little upsetting, but so be it.

So squinch those butt cheeks together when you hear that story because yuck. But he shared somewhat of his Bigfoot encounter, which I greatly appreciated him sharing it. He also sent over a video showing the location as to where the events took place, and you can find that over at the Caravan Library of Lore group on Facebook page. So feel free to go over there and give that a watch too.

So with that said, on with the call in show. Thanks everybody for joining us. Oh, who do we have joining us? From Modesta, California, the one and only.

Who? Bobby Rich. Hey, man. Oh, hey, Bobby.

See, I would have figured you would have called, being that it's out of the desk. I would have kind of figured as much. All right, our scary talker tonight is bad toe infections. So do you have any bad toe infection stories you'd like to share with us on a coffee table?

Oh, ow. Why is it. Oh, no, no, Actually, I do have a horrible story. Okay, do share.

Okay, do share. Family show. When my little kid was like, probably one or two years old, I put him in his high chair and I was putting the tray on it and he kicked it off and the thing fell down and landed on my big toe. Toenail in my life.

Developed from the big old blood lusters underneath the toenail. Excruciating pain from the pressure. I finally got to go to the hospital. Hospital and expect a like a car for surgery.

Right. Burned a hole through the toenail until I got down to the blood pressure and let off the pressure. Okay, all right. See, he doesn't even need to say free Shannon.

And I need to take a drink just because of that. Oh, good God. That's horrible in itself. We didn't hear you say the magic words.

The whole idea was to get Jennifer drunk by using that catchphrase. Bobby, what was that? Why is Shannon in jail? What you do this time?

Oh, yeah, we need to tell everybody why she's in jail. Why are we free? Well, she just posted way too much back to back in other groups. And since Shannon isn't purchasing into advertising on her personal site to post in other groups or the fact that she's not buying from the Facebook advertisers, so they locked her up because she's, you know, posting way too much without contributing to the advertisers.

And I think that's absolutely BS because they should have at least given her a warning. Hey, you know, with this many posts, you're getting near your limit, and we don't want to have to lock you up. They just went ahead and locked her up? Lock her out for a week?

Yeah. Originally I thought she had, like, had too much. Well, that's not to say that she didn't. We just didn't get to see.

It was Facebook. I was on one of my friends profiles, and I was, you know, liking a bunch of their pictures just so they wake up and have, like 100 million notifications for me. And after so many, I did, there was a warning that popped up that says, we don't think that you're using this correctly. If you, you know, And.

And. But I stopped and I never got. Who are you, Nazi? Okay, who are you to tell me you don't think I'm using this correctly?

Come on. I got me a spam notification once myself. Oh, you did? Opinion all the group.

And I got one of those warnings from. So I didn't post anymore. Well, that's kind of crazy considering how much I have posted, especially as of late with the caravan and hitting all the other groups. And I haven't gotten any notifications, not that I'm aware of.

But I check our email, and I don't know if it comes through email or if they send you it in a. I think it's a, you know, like those Microsoft warning windows. Right. Very interesting.

Well, you know what? If Facebook keeps up this type of attitude, they're just gonna put themselves out of business because you don't treat your customers this way. I'm sorry, you don't and then the next social media entity is going to step up into place and say, no, we won't do that to you. Hey, Williamsburg, Pennsylvania.

Yeah. Very good, Chen. All right, Williams for Pennsylvania. I can only guess who this is.

Appreciate it. We're taking a drink. There you go. Have a shot, Jen.

Wow. Man, oh man, oh man. How are you, buddy? I'm wonderful.

How are you doing? Good, considering the fact that you really kind of kicked me off on your last show. I'm like, come on, I never heard your story. And I'm like, okay, you have to come on the caravan and share your story.

Because between lan and Butch saying, yeah, it was a pretty creepy story. I'm like, now I'm totally intrigued. So where can I find that story yet? Well, you can go back to some of the old shows, but I'd like to come on another time with you guys and actually do it with you.

If you'd like. I'll go through the whole thing. It was a life changing experience for me and my research and it took me a long time to get over it. Right, okay.

Because I told Jennifer a little while ago that you're kind of getting back into the Bigfoot research and familiarity with the Bigfoot thing, so. Yeah, that'll be kind of cool. But yeah, I'm really interested in hearing what that whole story was. Although Line tended to think it seemed to be of a paranormal type of whatever experienced an ultra terrestrial, which I'm not certain what it is, that is, but it sounds scary.

Ultra terrestrial. How much? Okay. Wow, that's a new.

That's a new word. And that's a big word. Wow, that's crazy. Okay, so you were at the bar celebrating your employer's birthday.

My employee, one of my youngest. 21 today, so. Oh, happy birthday. Right on.

In other words, you're broke right now. I don't get too fancy for these things because you're the boss. No, this is true. Of course.

Hey, Sean, Bobby's on the other side too, with us. Say hi, Bobby. Hey, how's it going? Hi, Bobby.

How are you doing? Okay. See, isn't this a wonderful call in show? And Jennifer sitting over here in a onesie, drinking.

It's called My hero. I want to know something. Yes. Where did this new name for Jennifer come from?

Alien planet or what? Okay, so no, I had spoken to someone who practices like shamanism, and she had done a journey for me and it was the name that was given to her by a spirit ancestor of mine. Right. But see, the same thing.

Jennifer did is what. What you ended up or whoever did it when they changed your name to Bonna Russell and you had to deal with it for 60 days. Horrible. Jen stuck with us for the next, what, 48 days or something?

I don't remember. That was horrible, though. Yeah, there was a lot of confusion. Made a real final.

Russell, please stand up. Yeah, I totally forgot about that. Well, hey, the pictures of the profile is so small and all the volume, so. Yeah, that's true.

That's true. So it would stand out. Yeah, I remember that. So, Sean, you're driving right now.

I just walked in the front door there to a drive. Wow, how convenient for you. All right, well, that's cool. You can always cut out whenever if you have to.

He's running to the bathroom right now. A scary one. I love stories. Well, yeah, and Sean's like, I gotta pee really bad.

That's pretty scary. That's a scary. You know, like real quick, though. Oh, good.

These stories have been popping up lately of people seeing this. These beings with this kind of shimmering predator type effect. Have you guys familiar with that? Yes, yes.

I haven't heard about it yet. I read a news article the other day about a lady and her husband who bought a property in southwestern Pennsylvania. And they were out driving around their land trying to, you know, find nice places to go off the beaten path. And as they were spotlighting for deer, they both caught this glimmer of something that was like starting to materialize.

And as they caught it, it kind of stopped in mid. Mid movement and like nobody moved. And the husband didn't want to say anything to the wife, and the wife didn't want to say anything to the husband because neither one of them had the cognizance of realizing they were both looking at the same thing. They were trying to play it off and kind of came to terms with what they saw.

The thing took off and flew down an embankment, but they saw it materialized almost out of. Out of thin air. And I've been reading and hearing a lot more of these type stories over the last couple years. And that's pretty fright.

Yeah. That you say the last couple of years. Yes, I have two. Probably it would be pretty close to two years.

And I was actually first made aware of it from. Yeah, the missing 41 1. I forget who the gentleman's wife was that. That she was.

Yeah, she was, I believe, either hunting or was out in the woods and that she saw it and she took a picture. But the picture that she got was. It's so you can't tell anything. It just looks like a photograph of somebody's hair.

But she claims that she was watching this translucent thing move from the trees and it just took her by complete and total surprise. And that's. That was the initial story that I heard. And then over, over, you know, the past two years, I've heard stories here and there referring to the fact of the Predator effect of it's a translucent, but as it moves, you're able to see the distortion of the fabric of, you know, the images around it kind of distort somewhat as it moves, but it's still transparent and it's kind of creepy, actually.

Yeah, a lot of people seem to refer to it as the Predator, referring to the movie when it was invisible and moving about. Yeah, you could kind of see it. And they were like, yes, it's spot on. That's exactly what I saw.

I'm like, no, that was in a movie. This can't be real. So a lot of Witness testimonies, it's kind of scary. Who knows?

Yes. Question out of all, and this is a question for all of you. Out of all the different monsters, be it TV lore, legends, whatever books, what would be the one thing that scares you the most that you wouldn't want to be real? Well, that was a right spot on there, Bobby.

Yeah, Dog Man. You know, the Dogman. As interesting as it is, and for the testimonies that I've heard about the Dogman, and then to see the drawings that Linda Gottfried has done from, you know, the Witness testimonies, Dogman, her Dogman illustrations are somewhat different. It looks as if you just took a very large German shepherd and pushed it by the chest to stand upright on a tiny leg.

But the illustrations that you see, you know, let's say a Google search of the Dog man, you're all coming up with a super muscular, drooling, big fang looking werewolf thing. And some people say, yeah, that's what I saw. But you know, from Linda's description, it's more just like a German shepherd canine that you just stood up on a tiny legs and that's how this thing is moving about. So, yeah, I don't want to see either one or have an encounter with either one.

I appreciate the fact that that was a pretty quick answer. But as far as my answer goes, I don't know. Probably. I think the thing that I had the biggest fear of for the longest time and I still kind of fear it is a little.

A little gray alien. I don't know, that just kind of freaked me out. Hey, Eureka, California, who died from Eureka? Jennifer's sitting over here.

We have Bobby sitting over here. And Sean the pork chop Forker is sitting over here. He just got home from a binge. How are you, Jared?

I'm well. How about you guys? We're doing okay. You came into the midst of the conversation of what creature, whether it's fantasy movie or lore, scares you the most?

And we got a dogman out of the way and a little gray alien out of the way. We were talking about the predator type. Invisibility. I don't know, Sean, what was yours?

What's your serious? Well, someone took Dog man and you took little gray aliens, which is another one of my biggest fears. Oh, man. You know, I have to go with Dog man too.

I agree. Yeah. As Dark Water says, and I have to agree with him. It's the terrorists of the Cryptids.

Out of all the encounters. And we talked about this a while ago, you know, you hear about Sasquatch and he'll just kind of like, he'll make sounds or he'll maybe go the other way or whatever it is, you know. And then the Mothman was kind of the same way. Ish.

But Dog man just seems like it's pure evil. There's no, like, you see it, you're done. It's just how it seems to me. This is very true.

I don't know if any of you. Yeah, Jared, what's yours? Black Eyed Kids. Oh, my God.

Right? Oh, there you go. Yeah, it is. You gotta knock on your door.

I mean, you're home. That's your space man. You know, it's like, now you got this thing at your front door. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. No, that plays into my whole, like, my fear of people. I just constantly. I just feel like I'm gonna see something, you know, on the other side of the door.

Yeah, that's the ultimate home invader right there, you know? Yeah, that is. You know, that's just. Yeah, that's the creepiest thing there is as far as I'm concerned.

I don't know why. Yeah, well, and then there's those encounters where they come up to your car. Oh, it just makes me feel like there's nothing. It's like the movies where you're running as fast as you can, but it just, you know, it walks and it just keeps, you know, you can't get away.

Yeah. No, no, no, no, thank you. No, See, but that is relatively close to the, you know, the big eyed, almond eyed, whatever you want to refer to it. Little Gray Alien.

I put that in the same category as Black Eyed Kids because they're small. I could deal with a large monster. Give me a large monster because I can at least see you and I can get out of your way. But with a little type of alien, you can sneak around in hiding places.

I can't see you. That's terrifying to me. Movies. Haven't really thought us how to deal with them yet either.

Right. Movies. We can fight anything. But Black Eyed Kids, I don't know.

That's the creepiest thing on planet. Ever encountered that. What? Yeah, I don't think that, you know, Hollywood has put out one, but I know that there's been short films, indie films that were done on the black guy.

Kids. I don't know the name of it offhand, but I have seen advertising for short film, you know, See? Yeah. Thank you.

There's one called Bec. Black Eyed Kids came out 2012. And then there's another one, Black Eyed Children. Let me in 2015.

No, I'm not letting you in. No, no, no. Okay, so here's another question. I don't know if.

Does everybody know who Indrid Cold is? Yes. Oh, yeah. Okay.

So, Bobby. Bobby and Jerry, you are unfamiliar with Idris Cold? Yeah, I'm pretty older, actually. No, that's okay.

That's fine. That's why we're here at the Caravan of Lore, to share information for things you may not know. Back in 1966, Sean, correct me if I'm wrong, if you know something and I forget the gentleman's name, because I've only heard about150,000 times, but back in 1966, this gentleman was driving home and a car passed him. He was in his work van, he was a salesman.

A car passed him at a high rate of speed, and right behind that was another vehicle that passed him, turned in front of his van, but it was hovering. And he referred to it then as a ufo. And a door opened on the side and a gentleman got out of this vehicle and walked up to the passenger side of the van and asked him to roll down his window, in which, therefore, he noticed that he was being talked to telepathically. And this.

This entity introduced himself as Cold. Cold. It was later on, after that experience that he had more encounters and then put two and two together that the first name was Indrid Cold. But his story was so profound that it never changed.

And the thing was that this man disappeared for, you know, six months at a time. He would disappear for a year At a time, he had a family, a wife. You know, kids. They've interviewed the daughter, and the daughter's like, my dad disappeared.

I'm sorry. Woodrow Derenberger. Yeah. Withdraw, Derenberger.

Correct. Thank you. See, I knew I could count on you, Sean. That's why we hang out at the bars together.

But, yeah, he would disappear for a period of time, and, you know, he would just tell his family, which he didn't like to share much of it because he couldn't figure a lot of things out, that he was taken to Indrid's home planet and that he meant no harm to anybody. But he shared so much information. And the thing was, the daughter and the wife of Woodrow would have a conversation that Woodrow already knew the outcome and what the family had already done earlier that day, even though he wasn't present for it. He had some sort of telepathic residual effect because of his interaction with Indrid Cold.

So then the thing is, was Indrid Cold a real entity, an alien species? Or was this just from a man who was suffering severe mental illness and was just able to figure things out on his own? I don't know. But the daughter claims that Idrid Cold is a real entity.

He happened to be at Woodrow's funeral when. After he passed away, which I found that rather fascinating. And they all described him looking the same way. So they knew who he was.

It just. But, see, the grinning man kind of got mixed up without really any intent, just because Woodrow, in his initial interview, said the man had a smile on his face. And from there, I think, you know, it just kind of got exaggerated into this big smile, and it turned into the grinning man and something of evil intent. And it never really was that.

It was just that he seemed to be gentlemanly, had a smile on his face, but spoke telepathically only. The whole story is really fascinating. If none of you have ever listened to his interview that Woodrow did, he did an interview the following day after this event happened to him. So it's very fresh in his mind, and it's an interesting interview.

It kind of creeps you out because you're. Well, my question was, for those that know who he is, if you were driving on the road and you happened to be approached by him, what would you do? Yeah, right. What?

He would not roll his window. Okay. That's assuming you have control, though. If he can telepathically communicate, how would you have any control over what's going on?

Maybe you could do more to communicate. Maybe you could control what you were doing. Right, right. Oh, see, if.

Literally a neutral interview. He said, we mean you no harm. We want nothing for you but happiness. And, you know, he was trying to reduce the fear factor.

And he gave Woodrow the option. He could either talk telepathically back to Indrid Cold, or he could verbally speak to him, which he said he chose to verbally speak because his brain was racing with, you know, fear and everything else. I'm sure I would be pretty scared, you know, because then it takes something from what you are skeptic about and now slams it right into your face's reality. Yeah, I'd be kind of scared.

I'd want to know what he wants, though. What do you want? Because I got an empty wallet. I don't know.

I mean, I don't know. I'd want to talk to him. Come on. Gerald, how many aliens have you spoke to in the last year?

Absolutely none. Are you sure about that? I talk to a lot of strange people. When you consider what I live so I could have.

I just didn't realize it, you know, I'm kind of dealing with my own paranormal PTSD right now. I'm skeptical when it comes to humanity, but I'm not too skeptical about the possibility of, you know, a greater world than we allow for generally. A couple days ago, I had an experience that was a pretty. Pretty much hard.

Well, actually, I'm still dealing with it in a kind of bizarre sort of way that has absolutely, really removed a lot of skepticism. I guess it's a good way to put it. And it's not. It wasn't one of those experiences where I recorded an EBD or I got a really, you know, pretty cool photograph or something like that.

It was a. Like a close encounter. The third time that was paranormal. And I don't know, it's left me to happen.

Wednesday afternoon here is Saturday evening. And I'm still processing. It's like processing, you know. So for.

When you were talking about this guy, his experience on the side of the road, how sobering and that would be for a person. I. I really. I was relating to that intently.

Yeah, I get it completely. So I don't know. Well, do you want to share a little bit of what your experience was? Oh, yeah, yeah.

I was. I. I kind of a bit of a specialized electrical. I do stuff and I.

We've been working on this project here close to the area where they're converting an old building. They're reusing. They're reusing an old building. And I've been in there A lot over the past year.

And we're getting close to finally finishing up. So I wanted to make sure that all of our data wires were run properly, that everything that needed to be done because I've got in charge of the infrastructure as far as that goes. Everything's ready to go. It's been a real chore of a job anyway.

And nobody's been happy working there, it seems like. And I was in there Thursday afternoon and it was me and two other people, we were really close to one another and all. And we were going. We were talking and about the job and I suggested we go up to the second floor to check some stuff out.

And the next thing I know, the only way I can describe this is it was like I had a body check as far as. Like somebody wasn't. Like somebody shoved me with their hands as much as like somebody hit me really hard with their body. Like, you know, something kind of bumps into you.

Well, it knocked me off my feet to my left. I mean, you fall, you fall forward generally, but this time. And I went into a pile of construction debris and I was like, oh, great, you know, and. But I'm pretty, you know, well balanced person.

So I almost managed to recover from this and not go down when I received a second blow. It finished the job and it drove me into this really gross pilot construction stuff, you know, all across the board, you know, why, place to go down in. And a. The kid who was with me, my helper, I remember when I got up, he was just looking at me like he was as dazed as I was.

And I think, yeah, I guess, you know, but at the time I really wasn't because I was like, what the hell happened? You know, rationalize your physical world. So all I can think of was, how did I trip like that there was anybody close enough to show me what just happened to me. And even I.

The second show was what was really profound. I mean, I knew this weird. I'm pretty bruised up, I have a huge gash knocked down my left leg, which requires some suturing to close. But, you know, nobody.

But after things settled down and my mind was just racing because I want you to be like, I'm kind of logical. So I was trying to make sense of what it just went down. And so I was outside and that's the kid that I work with, Logan. He goes, hey, dude.

He goes, what happened? I don't know, you know, I guess I tripped you people up here. Well, he goes, the part I don't get you because I was Watching you falling. And he described it as a ninja move.

Like, he goes, what was that ninja move you did? He said it just, you know, were you trying to, like, backflip over that stuff? I was like, no, not really. And I think that we were talking about with the second shot then.

Sure. That went face down into the crap. And, you know, the back story on this place is it's an old funeral home. Oh, there you go.

You know, concentrated there. But it's. Yeah, it was just bizarre. And I'm still feeling like I was sitting here like an hour ago on my front porch going, wow, that's the weirdest thing ever.

You know, and this thing about ghosts can't hurt you. That's what it was. I feel, you know, they can't hurt you. Well, boy, I guess they could if they want to really get hurt.

All right. I got, like, eight stitches and a really sore leg, so. Good enough. See, I've seen a lot of stuff that was reported where people had experiences where they ended up with scratches or bruises on their body from they didn't know what.

And, Vance, you and I have talked about it before where I think that the message should change about ghosts and stuff that, you know, I mean, for me, personally, in my. From what I've experienced since I was a little kid, I don't sit there and tell people, oh, no, ghosts aren't real. Oh, ghosts can't hurt you. Because I've had a way different experience.

And so, you know, I don't want to bring. I don't know. I don't know why. And be like, open that door.

Right. Yeah. Well, yeah. You know, it was like.

I was thinking about this, too, earlier. It's like when you're. You know what punching bag is. That's what it felt like.

Somebody had, like, hit me really hard with the punching bag. I mean, that was. I've been really. Obviously, I've been struggling with this and thinking about a lot, but it was like I was.

There was a lot of, like, panic energy behind this, but it didn't feel like hands. It just felt like somebody hit me with a punching bag really hard. The second time was like, wow. You know, I don't know.

I. Needless to say, I'm gonna be really careful because it's finished yet. You know, I'm not going to shoot this product or project. I'm just not sure.

I can't say I blame you. And you know how you're going to change your footing when you're trying to do a job to protect Yourself. I mean, there's some suggestions I could throw out there, but we none of us probably know what you're dealing with. You know, we immediately will jump to that conclusion that it's a ghost, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's a ghost.

It could be an alien entity. It could be just, you know, a ball of energy that's shooting around the room that has nowhere to go. Who knows what category you could actually put this thing in, or whatever it was. Yeah, like Jennifer said, I.

I've heard many, many stories of, you know, physical touch and, you know, physical damage, but not being pushed to that extent to be knocked over. Yeah, I'd heard of it, but with that kind of force, it seems like whatever it was that you did that caused that kind of an aggressive behavior back to you, and here you're scratching your head going, well, what did I do before that that would have ticked something off? Who knows? But it's.

At a funeral, if there was something in the building, I don't know. For me, cemeteries. I don't get cemeteries as necessarily haunted just because there's no real tie to the cemetery itself. I would assume that the same.

I can't even talk. The same thing would be for funeral homes. Do you know the story of the land or the building before it was a funeral home? You know, it's a funeral home that was built there in town probably somewhere in the early 1900s, and it remained a funeral home there.

Roar. Well, over more than 100 years. It shut down about, I think, four years ago when they finally closed the doors and so on. The United States, you know, Eureka is a really rocky town, but I don't know.

I think it's a strange deal. It really is. Wow. Well, the only thing that immediately jumps to mind if you say that it's that old.

The embalming process is not that old. It used to be. You know, then, okay, you had a deceased person. Quick.

Do a quick layout in the casket. So your final words. Close casket. Get that thing buried.

Who's to say that this entity wasn't. Or person, whatever, wasn't really totally dead yet, may have still been brain alive, who knows, but was put in the casket and sent away, and especially 100 years ago. All of you, I just throw this out there. If any of you have not seen Lore yet, you need to.

I loved it. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Yeah.

It's from the podcast Lore. And it's now. It's now a. A visual TV show.

Amazon. I liked it. It was good. And There was, there was an episode about being buried alive and, and coming back to life.

And the bells. Could you imagine that? Are you all familiar with that? That the term saved by the bell was actually.

Yeah, that's kind of messed up that here they would, you know, in case the person in the casket was still alive, I'll pull on the string and maybe somebody might hear the bell ringing and they'll time to dig you up and we'll let you out. That's terrifying. Screw you. That's terrifying.

And I'm okay. We'll do the embalming thing. At least we'll make sure that you're dead before you get in the ground. I don't know.

That's. That's a. Thank you for sharing that story. That's pretty fascinating.

You know, some of our listeners may, may have had an experience like that and if they have and you're listening to this episode, you know, do chime in, maybe you can give Jared a little bit of heads up of your experience and maybe put a couple pieces together to what this experience actually motivated it or created a physical event like that. Yeah, why pick on me? Exactly. You know, exactly.

That was my point. What was it that you would have done to take off this energy to the point where it would want to knock you out like that and throw you into a pile of construction rubbish? You know, wild idea, you know, I mean, I believe in reincarnation and soul, Ruth. You know, you're attracted to certain people into your life and you might have known each other in the past life and stuff.

And it'd be interesting if Jared's soul knew this past one. You know, the one that. Oh great. Now Jared's got to figure out what he did in the past life.

Who did I pick on in school? That's a good philosophy though. I like that philosophy. That's.

Who's to say if you're on your second or third time around here, who did you start a fight with in the past and they're coming back to fight you again, right? That's creepy. Eureka is kind of a creepy town, period. I mean, it's, it's an interesting place, rough around the edges.

It's a nice place, right? I have been through, through Eureka. I don't believe I really stayed there. I was passing through, but geez, that was probably 20 years ago, if not a little bit longer than that.

I'm sure things may have changed somewhat, but that's my only experience with Eureka. So. Yeah, if you say that it's, you know, Kind of creepy and rough around the edges. I'll take your word for it.

You would know better than I would. I want to go down there. I need to go frolicking in the redwoods. We also, right close to our downtown, just sit across this little tiny mountain water.

That's what they call Indian Island. And that was the scene of a horrific massacre that occurred, you know, like 140 years ago now, where, you know, just in the bunch of guys got drunk and decided to cross the water, go kill everybody over there. And it was mostly women and kids, of course, and old people. So, I mean, there's just a lot of, like, harsh stuff that's happened around here.

Right. You know, it's that part of California that nobody knows here, because this ain't la. It's its own little enclave of whatever it is. It's interesting, isn't it, that, you know, Sean, like, where you're at.

I know there's so many areas in. In PA that is just. It's got it. There's a lot of little creek centers all over the place.

I have them up by me too. I know Jennifer does that by her. What I don't know is Modesta, California. What kind of creek factor goes on out there, Bobby?

Yeah, I didn't think so. Way to go, Bobby. You're in the wrong community. You have to have something creepy going on there.

You just gotta dig around UFOs, right, Bobby? Well, actually, yeah. Well, the UFO I told you about was up. Dear.

When that was up by Mount Laughing about a month ago, I saw. I'm not gonna say it's a ufo, but it was the oddest thing I've ever seen in my life. It was. I was out.

It was late afternoon. I stepped outside. This is like a month ago. And there was.

This was like a snake, extremely high, high in the sky, that it was extremely shiny, reflecting from the sun, and there was like a small boat trail behind it. It was going, I mean, supersonic from the north to the south. And it was going straight out. It would be like a rocket.

And then all of a sudden, it did a snake. Like a snake maneuver. It would slide, you know how they wind back and forth five times, straightened out again and it did again and it just went out of sight. It was the oddest thing I've ever seen.

Wow. Yeah, I don't. Yeah, that is a new one. I don't think I've heard of a UFO sighting to refer to it that way.

Right, right. Wow. Okay. Well, there you go.

You're not qualified to be back into the community. You know, Shannon put up a post on her free page before she got thrown into jail about the black rings that are. And some seem like a smoke ring. I don't know.

Have you guys seen any of those photographs floating around in the last year? Yeah, yeah, that one video was creepy where all the cars are pulled over on the side of the road. And you know, I think it was a. I think it was a guy that was shooting the video and the girlfriend was kind of talking and narrating it.

But this thing didn't look like a smoke ring. It just looked like a solid mass ring just floating in the sky. I'm like, okay, I don't see anything on there that would represent a drone of some sort. You don't hear any noise from it, which you know how it is with drones.

They do put up, you know, that buzzy, noisy, irritating sound. But these things are weird. Shannon posted the other day from coast to coast am. She just shared it of another one.

It kind of looks more like a black smoke ring. But I see these things are popping up all over the states and worldwide. I don't know what that's all about either. I was thinking, you know, it's probably, you know, how people can blow smoke ring who smoke sometimes like a volcano that's doing it.

But if you look at those pictures, there's no, there's no mountains anywhere in sight, right? No, no, no. Yeah. I mean, that one video, I don't know if any of you have seen it of the, you know, the cars are all pulled over on the side of the interstate.

It's just, it's woodlands. There's really nothing there. They're kind of out in the middle of nowhere. And here's this black ring just hovering in the sky.

And from the video, I would guess it was probably maybe 200ft up and it was motionless. It just sat there motionless. And people are all looking at it going, what the hell was that thing? And then from there I see more and more and more postings of these.

Who knows? Who knows? I mean, so, Bobby, at least you got to see a ufo. I know, Jen, you saw one what, month or so ago, something like that.

She's like, oh, it was really no big deal. And I'm like, dude, that was a cool ufo. When I saw two years ago up in deer hunting the first night there, that was a ufo that was. It was one of those orgs that are kind of bluish white glowing.

It was right behind and underneath a jet Airliner and it had a whole underside of it lit up. Ah, right. Yes, yes, yes. I remember you sharing that story.

Yeah, that's. There's something going on there. High intelligence. Yeah.

With that experience. Yeah, I remember you sharing that story. And that it was right underneath the airliner like that. What a crazy place to hide.

You know, like we'll just hide underneath this airplane and they won't see us. I gotta tell you guys, when I went out camping this August to film, the location where I saw my first Bigfoot was exactly one month, one month past the date. And I had another experience at night the next morning where I got sick. They had a call 911, come and rescue me.

Right, right, right. I had my 6:30 that night. Well, maybe that's what created all your illness to begin with. I was kind of wondering if it like hit you with infrasounds and it triggered it or.

Or what. But. Right. It was kind of a coincidence.

And I probably because I had a remote control light on the outside of my tent where my food was in case I didn't put it in. So when I heard it, it was. The thing was probably 60, 70ft from my tent getting into garbage can. And I clicked the light on and when I did a little one, not a big one, there was a little one there.

I'm very sure of the too grunt. And then everything, everything was silent. The big one was looking at that garbage can, pick it up and set it back down. There were three garbage cans there that we're not bear proof and nice.

Then two minutes later, everyone grunted. We didn't hear any more sound. And then further down in the campground, there were four other people. A big circle shaped area.

There's like imagine four corners. We were camped like that. Somewhere in between them you hear this big pow. And then you hear.

You know how you hear when a tree starts and then it starts falling down. You hear that pow. And then you hear that crackling sound and you hear hit the ground good. And rest of the time, wow.

Wow. Well, there you go, Sean. There's your big clip story for tonight. Yeah, that's something else.

Yeah, right. Wow. See, I keep saying wow because it's like all of us have had just such a cool story and then to gather it all up into one room. That's right.

Hey, Jennifer. Free Shannon. No. Here we go.

I knew somebody would do that. Right? Oh my gosh. All right.