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EPISODE · Mar 20, 2026 · 52 MIN

Freedom Dreaming and Transformative Change with Kisa Marx

from Children Deserve Better · host Dr. Jasmine Moses

Today on Children Deserve Better, Dr. Jasmine Moses is joined by the amazing Kisa Marx for a conversation that feels especially meaningful, as it was recorded on the very day her book entered the world. Together, they discuss her new book, We Are Who We’re Waiting For: Transformative Change in Early Childhood Education, and what it means to create spaces where children can live, grow, and be seen as their full selves.In this conversation, Kisa shares what freedom dreaming means to her and how it can shape the way adults show up for children in classrooms, homes, and communities. The conversation explores preserving children’s dreams instead of placing adult expectations on them, why changing our minds is necessary if we want to do better for children, and how unlearning is part of the work.They also reflect on the children who are often overlooked, especially the “quiet” children. This episode is an invitation to slow down, reflect, and think more deeply about the kind of world we want children to grow up in and what it will take from all of us to build it.In this episode, they discuss:Kisa’s new book, We Are Who We’re Waiting ForWhat freedom dreaming means in the context of children and educationThe harm of equating quietness with being “fine” or being a “good child”Changing our minds as part of lifelong learningModeling mistakes, apology, and repair with childrenCommunity care and what it really means to embrace all childrenThe power of storytelling and “saying the quiet part out loud”Where to find Kisa:Substack: Kisa Marx / Function of FreedomInstagram: @iam_still_learningInstagram: @theplaylabfoundationWebsite: https://theplaylabnfpoakpark.org/ Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/liberated-learning/id1866573493GRAB THE BOOK:We Are Who We’re Waiting For: Transformative Change in Early Childhood Education is available now through Redleaf Press. A 20% discount code is also available using the code: WWWW20https://www.redleafpress.org/We-Are-Who-Were-Waiting-For-Transformative-Change-in-Early-Childhood-Education-P3172.aspxA reminder from this episode: Read the book, share it, tell somebody about it, and keep putting this work into the hands of people who care for children. Anywhere children are, this conversation matters.Support the showFind Dr. Jasmine Moses On Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theantibiasece/Visit Her On The Web: https://www.equityinbloom.com/

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Today on Children Deserve Better, Dr. Jasmine Moses is joined by the amazing Kisa Marx for a conversation that feels especially meaningful, as it was recorded on the very day her book entered the world. Together, they discuss her new book, We Are Who We’re Waiting For: Transformative Change in Early Childhood Education, and what it means to create spaces where children can live, grow, and be seen as their full selves. In this conversation, Kisa shares what freedom dreaming means to her and ho...

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