Friday Faceoff: Mark Sainsbury and Phil O'Reilly talk birthright citizenship, Luxon v Whanau

It was round two of a war of words between Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and Wellington mayor Tory Whanau this week – the PM criticised the council heavily appearing on Wellington Mornings. and Tory hit back by saying Luxon should focus on his own "chaotic coalition". Is this the behaviour we expect from either of these leaders? Also, there are potentially hundreds of kids in New Zealand born to overstaying parents who are in hiding. In one case, a 19-year-old born in NZ to overstaying Indian parents has never had an education, hasn't seen a doctor since he was 10 and has been in hiding for nearly two decades - all because he was born here out of his control. Do we need to consider bringing back birthright citizenship? To answer those questions, Nick was joined by broadcaster Mark Sainsbury and Iron Duke Partners director Phil O'Reilly. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.