Friend zone to finding LOVE (with artist/my bf esteban arellano)

THEE RELATIONSHIP EPISODE (part 1, a la Wicked) 💙 i got to interview my favorite person in the world (ok one of them). visual artist, designer, and my BOYFRIEND esteban arellano joins No, So True for this special two-part episode. we talk about how we finally started dating after years of friendship, being seemingly opposite in ways and how it works— u can tell me otherwise, feeling like underdogs in our lives, and how our cultural differences (abundance vs. scarcity mentality, etc.) and upbringings have challenged us to #grow together. oh, and CONFLICT. nst moment: you don't need to stand in your own way to feel like an underdog part 2 next week. no, so true. it’s for u 💁🏻‍♂️ chapters (0:00 ) i had therapy (1:25) the underdog myth, self-sabotaging (7:30) RELATIONSHIPS (8:25) the DMs are open ( 12:40) RESPECTING ur partner (15:00) nonmonogamy?? (17:20) loneliness (19:55) my GUEST (bae) (22:00) gay representation and lack thereof (27:20) esteban's big life change (28:15) Working at an AGENCY (hell), ditching the dream (32:10) jack of all trades and master of none (34:10) is being an “artist” worth it? actually doing “good” work an empathetic boyo (38:30) would u rather be rich or famous? (42:15) being opposites: wanting the spotlight vs. not (45:00) old white people :/ stop appealing to the masses (49:00) abundance vs. scarcity mindset in relationship (52:00) Cultural differences! (56:12) shame for not being white in interracial relationships (58:00) sexual jokes in nonwhite cultures (59:30) starting out as friends, our first date (1:01:30) fixing people (1:03:00) getting REJECTED and FRIENDZONED (1:06:20) HOLDING SPACE for each other, why it wouldn’t have worked (1:07:40) showing your real ass self to someone