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EPISODE · Jul 20, 2026 · 43 MIN

From 1998 to 2034: The World Cup Then and Now

from The Real Deal: A Real Madrid Podcast · host The Real Deal Podcast

The World Cup is over, but we aren't done soaking in the vibes. Jarod Hector and Siddharth Ramsundar look back on the tournaments that shaped how they see football, from France 1998 and South Africa 2010 to Brazil 2014, Russia 2018 and Qatar 2022.They remember the players, games and personal moments that made each tournament feel different: Ronaldo Nazário, Zidane, Casillas, Spain’s legendary midfield, Germany’s 2014 team, Brazil’s 7-1 collapse, James Rodríguez, Cristiano Ronaldo’s hat trick against Spain and the strange winter World Cup in Qatar.The conversation then turns to the tournament we just watched in North America, what it revealed about Team USA, the growth of football in the United States, MLS, pay-to-play development and why the sport still struggles to produce elite American players.Finally, we look ahead to what comes next: a possible 64-team World Cup, the future of African qualifying, why FIFA wants China and India involved, the overloaded international calendar, Saudi Arabia 2034 and which countries can realistically host a tournament this large.A wide-ranging conversation about the World Cups we remember, the one we just lived through and the future of football’s biggest event.TIMESTAMPS00:00 The day after the World Cup final00:28 Gerard remembers France 199801:26 Ronaldo, Zidane and falling in love with football02:47 Why USA 1994 felt so different03:34 What the 2026 World Cup revealed about Team USA05:47 Discovering football during South Africa 201006:34 Spain’s legendary midfield and modern comparisons07:56 How club football shapes the World Cup experience08:15 Brazil 2014 through the eyes of a Madrid fan08:42 Germany’s stacked 2014 generation09:39 Watching World Cup games at 2 a.m. in Singapore10:05 Penalty shootouts and the case for golden goal11:48 Brazil’s 7-1 collapse against Germany12:22 James Rodríguez and the stars a World Cup creates12:34 Ronaldo, Messi and arriving exhausted from club football13:21 Sami Khedira’s remarkable ACL recovery14:26 Why injury timelines should be personalized15:27 Courtois and football’s overloaded calendar16:26 Which World Cups meant the most to us?17:11 Why the tournament should expand to 64 teams17:39 Africa’s broken qualification system18:46 How the internet changed global football development19:30 Can a great coach emerge without playing professionally?20:16 Why American soccer needs outside thinking21:08 Messi, MLS and the level of the American game22:10 Pay-to-play soccer and the talent America loses23:44 Childhood football, FIFA soundtracks and summer nostalgia24:45 Russia 2018 and Ronaldo’s iconic hat trick26:08 France leaving Benzema home in 202226:59 Why the winter World Cup never felt right27:27 Recovery, PEDs and the modern football calendar30:42 Looking ahead to Saudi Arabia 203431:16 How World Cup hosting rights are decided32:09 Madrid or Morocco for the 2030 final?33:01 Which countries can host a 64-team tournament?34:10 China and India’s infrastructure advantage35:03 Why FIFA wants the world’s biggest countries involved36:18 Culture, education and developing elite players37:42 Could Great Britain host an expanded World Cup?38:09 Germany, Italy and the future of joint bids38:52 Can South America host another World Cup?39:22 Why North America remains the easiest host40:06 Australia, New Zealand and the problem of distance40:37 Morocco’s rise as a major football host41:07 What this World Cup changed in America41:26 Sid makes his pitch for the USMNT job42:26 Supporting independent football coverage

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