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EPISODE · Sep 12, 2025 · 26 MIN

From Burned Out Middle Manager to Leadership Coach: The Career-Saving Framework with Aaron Wagner

from Creatives Rule the World · host Tracy Matthews

What happens when a doctor tells you to "just sit on the couch and don't do anything" because you're so burned out you might break? That's exactly what happened to Aaron Wagner during his darkest days as a middle manager. Today, he's transformed that pain into purpose, building Lead from WithN - a coaching practice that's revolutionizing how we support the forgotten leaders stuck in the middle.In this raw and transformative conversation, Aaron shares his journey from corporate burnout to becoming the champion that 70% of unsupported middle managers desperately need. We dive deep into his three-pillar Middle Manager Success Framework (Lead Yourself, Lead Others, Lead with Impact), explore the Working Genius model that's changing how teams function, and discover why traditional leadership books fail the people who need them most. Plus, Aaron opens up about his experience in my Art of Reinvention program and how it helped him see patterns in his life he'd never noticed before.Listen now to discover the framework that's saving careers and transforming corporate America from the inside out.In this episode, you’ll learn:[03:29] Aaron's "stuck in the middle" origin story[07:04] The doctor visit that changed everything[08:27] The 90-day transformation period[11:41] The Middle Manager Success Framework explained[14:47] Breaking down the Working Genius Model[22:23] Aaron's Art of Reinvention experienceHere are the resources mentioned in the show:Follow @lead.fromwithn on InstagramFree Reinvention Breakthrough CallJoin the Art of ReinventionAre you enjoying the podcast? We’d be so grateful if you gave us a rating and review! Your 5 star ratings help us reach more businesses like yours and allows us to continue to deliver valuable content every single week. Click here to review the show on Apple podcast or your favorite platformSelect “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review”Share your favorite insights and inspirationsIf you haven’t done so yet, make sure that you subscribe to the show wherever you listen to podcasts and on Apple Podcast for special bonus content you won’t get elsewhere.xo, Tracy MatthewsFollow on Social:Follow @Flourish_Thrive on InstagramFollow @iamtracymatthews  InstagramFollow Flourish & Thrive Facebook

What happens when a doctor tells you to "just sit on the couch and don't do anything" because you're so burned out you might break? That's exactly what happened to Aaron Wagner during his darkest days as a middle manager. Today, he's transformed that pain into purpose, building Lead from WithN - a coaching practice that's revolutionizing how we support the forgotten leaders stuck in the middle. In this raw and transformative conversation, Aaron shares his journey from corporate burnout to bec...

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