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EPISODE · Apr 22, 2026 · 42 MIN

From Conflict to Conversation: Civil Discourse Explored with Dr. Breeda McGrath

from Silver Disobedience® Perception Dynamics™ with Dian Griesel: How People Think, Lead & Create Success

Civil Discourse in the Internet Age: Dr. Breeda McGrath on Curiosity, Bias, and De-escalationFor this Silver Disobedience Perception Dynamics podcast, Dian Griesel interviews Dr. Breeda McGrath, an American Psychological Association member involved in bringing civil discourse education to schools, about why public conversation has deteriorated in the internet era and how to improve it. Dr. McGrath defines civil discourse as respectful engagement -- especially amid disagreement -- grounded in curiosity and learning. They discuss how debates shift from facts to emotions when people perceive threats to rights, resources, identity, or community, and how values and personal stakes drive even advocacy on others’ behalf. Dr. McGrath recommends reflection to identify when discussions become personal, recognizing cognitive biases and blind spots, and using a biopsychosocial approach to de-escalate: calm the body, examine psychological triggers, and consider social dynamics like “show mode” and relationship stakes. Dian & Dr. McGrath also highlight focusing on local community, managing news intake, noticing positive interactions, and staying flexible and open to updating beliefs.Learn more about Dr. McGrath here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/breeda-mcgrath-phd-24a6642/Please SUBSCRIBE! I’m Dian Griesel, Ph.D. aka @SilverDisobedience to my hundreds of thousands of monthly blog readers. You can learn more about me here:   ⁠https://diangriesel.com⁠ But for starters…I am a perception analyst, counselor, hypnotherapist, author of 16 books and a Wilhelmina model. For 30 years I have helped my clients to achieve greater understanding as to how perceptions impact everything we do whether personally or professionally."Raw, truth-driven conversations with fascinating guests — from business & psychology to careers, pop culture & the B.S. in between." Expect bold questions. Unfiltered insights. A few laughs. Real growth. Subscribe & Join the Conversation. Show Run: 00:00 Why Civil Discourse Matters01:10 Defining Civil Discourse01:51 When Debate Turns Emotional04:26 Personal Stakes and Identity07:45 The Bucket Reflection Tool09:23 Biases and Blind Spots11:35 Flexibility and Updating Views13:44 Cooling Down Heated Talks14:54 Bio Psycho Social Breakdown17:50 Show Mode and Public Shame18:42 Lectures Versus Connection21:21 Movie Moments and Real Life22:13 Checkout Line Tension23:07 Tantrums and Bystanders24:59 Assumptions and Safety27:49 Why Discourse Breaks Down32:18 Noticing the Good33:55 Mindset and Control36:12 Start Local and Unplug37:51 Curiosity Through Travel40:49 Butter and Farewell

Civil Discourse in the Internet Age: Dr. Breeda McGrath on Curiosity, Bias, and De-escalationFor this Silver Disobedience Perception Dynamics podcast, Dian Griesel interviews Dr. Breeda McGrath, an American Psychological Association member involved in bringing civil discourse education to schools, about why public conversation has deteriorated in the internet era and how to improve it. Dr. McGrath defines civil discourse as respectful engagement -- especially amid disagreement -- grounded in curiosity and learning. They discuss how debates shift from facts to emotions when people perceive threats to rights, resources, identity, or community, and how values and personal stakes drive even advocacy on others’ behalf. Dr. McGrath recommends reflection to identify when discussions become personal, recognizing cognitive biases and blind spots, and using a biopsychosocial approach to de-escalate: calm the body, examine psychological triggers, and consider social dynamics like “show mode” and relationship stakes. Dian & Dr. McGrath also highlight focusing on local community, managing news intake, noticing positive interactions, and staying flexible and open to updating beliefs.Learn more about Dr. McGrath here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/breeda-mcgrath-phd-24a6642/Please SUBSCRIBE! I’m Dian Griesel, Ph.D. aka @SilverDisobedience to my hundreds of thousands of monthly blog readers. You can learn more about me here:   ⁠https://diangriesel.com⁠ But for starters…I am a perception analyst, counselor, hypnotherapist, author of 16 books and a Wilhelmina model. For 30 years I have helped my clients to achieve greater understanding as to how perceptions impact everything we do whether personally or professionally."Raw, truth-driven conversations with fascinating guests — from business & psychology to careers, pop culture & the B.S. in between." Expect bold questions. Unfiltered insights. A few laughs. Real growth. Subscribe & Join the Conversation. Show Run: 00:00 Why Civil Discourse Matters01:10 Defining Civil Discourse01:51 When Debate Turns Emotional04:26 Personal Stakes and Identity07:45 The Bucket Reflection Tool09:23 Biases and Blind Spots11:35 Flexibility and Updating Views13:44 Cooling Down Heated Talks14:54 Bio Psycho Social Breakdown17:50 Show Mode and Public Shame18:42 Lectures Versus Connection21:21 Movie Moments and Real Life22:13 Checkout Line Tension23:07 Tantrums and Bystanders24:59 Assumptions and Safety27:49 Why Discourse Breaks Down32:18 Noticing the Good33:55 Mindset and Control36:12 Start Local and Unplug37:51 Curiosity Through Travel40:49 Butter and Farewell

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Civil Discourse in the Internet Age: Dr. Breeda McGrath on Curiosity, Bias, and De-escalationFor this Silver Disobedience Perception Dynamics podcast, Dian Griesel interviews Dr. Breeda McGrath, an American Psychological Association member involved...

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