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EPISODE · Jun 17, 2026 · 17 MIN

From Fear to Fluency: Using Lawyer-to-Lawyer Learning in AI Adoption

from BDO's Legal Tech Talk Podcast

Guest NotesKim Wolfe has a background in operations and years of experience supporting legal organizations. She focuses on legal department maturity, innovation, contracting transformation, and organizational effectiveness.Kim Wolfe | LinkedInKey TakeawaysAI helps experienced professionals move faster—but judgment still matters. Kim highlights a growing concern that younger lawyers may not have enough foundational experience to spot AI mistakes.Adoption starts with comfort, not perfection. Before focusing on advanced governance, Kim is prioritizing getting lawyers to actually try the tools.Peer-to-peer learning can accelerate legal AI adoption. Her “lawyer-to-lawyer” approach pairs AI-comfortable attorneys with more hesitant peers.Banking adds regulatory pressure to AI decisions. In heavily regulated industries, legal teams must balance innovation, control, and compliance.AI can help make legal playbooks dynamic. Instead of relying on static, outdated documents, legal teams may be able to generate living guidance using AI and prior work product.Simple use cases matter. Kim’s example of using AI to tailor tone and audience in written communications is highly practical and relatable.The real opportunity is not reducing headcount. Kim argues that legal AI should be used to redeploy capacity and improve decision-making, not simply shrink teams.Better legal outcomes require connected data. The future lies in pulling together legal, operational, and business data so lawyers can provide better advice.

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Recorded live at the 2026 CLOC Conference in Chicago, Daniel Gold and Eric Derk speak with Kim Wolfe, Senior Vice President and Chief Administrative Officer for Legal at State Street Bank, about one of the most important questions in legal AI right now: what happens when the next generation relies on AI before developing the judgment to challenge it? Kim shares why she sees AI as a personal “superpower,” how she’s helping lawyers become more comfortable experimenting with it, and why peer-to-peer coaching may be the key to meaningful adoption. The conversation also explores AI in contracting, legal department transformation, and how in-house teams can use better data—not just more tools—to improve legal decision-making.

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