EPISODE · Aug 21, 2026 · 1H 1M
From Friction to Fuel: Battlefield and Boardroom Secrets to Leading Through Difference with Lt. Gen. Leslie C. Smith & Stu Kliman
from Braving Business: Tales of Entrepreneurial Resilience and Courage in the Face of Adversity
Welcome to Season 5 of the Braving Business podcast.In this season premiere, co-hosts PJ Benoit and Tal Zlotnitsky dive into a challenge that quietly undermines almost every organization: how to lead effectively through human difference. Rather than treating differences in background, communication styles, generations, or perspectives as obstacles to manage or suppress, what if leaders treated them as dormant capital waiting to be mined?Joining the show are two co-authors of the book All the Difference: How Great Leaders Create Value From Diversity: Lt. Gen. Leslie C. Smith (Ret.), former 66th Inspector General of the U.S. Army, and Stuart Kliman, founding partner at Vantage Partners and alumnus of the Harvard Negotiation Project.From combat operations to Fortune 500 boardrooms and high-growth tech startups, Gen. Smith and Stu share why navigating difference is not an HR checklist or standard DEI policy—it is a core leadership capability called Difference Intelligence.Inside the EpisodeDifference as an Asset: Why modern teams are more difference-filled than ever, and how viewing friction as "dormant capital" creates real competitive advantage.Leadership Through Love (Agape): Gen. Smith shares why true military leadership is rooted in love, care, setting the conditions for success, and serving those you lead.The 6 Target Actions: An inside look at the actionable framework from All the Difference, including Knowing Yourself, Returning to Respect, Activating Honesty, Seeing the Full Story, Igniting Togetherness, and Committing to Action.The 4 Leadership Landmines: How default certainty, inconsistency, reactivity, and justification derail even well-intentioned leaders.The Living Case Study: How three distinct co-authors (a 3-star general, a corporate strategy expert, and an executive coach) lived through their own friction, debates, and diverse perspectives to write this book.Preparing the Battlefield for Decisive Action: How investing in trust and transparency ahead of time makes tough, decisive leadership choices stick when the stakes are highest.Notable Quotes"Difference is gravity. It’s part of the human condition. Poorly managed, it undermines your success; well managed, it becomes a source of tremendous value." — Stuart Kliman"Those who lead must first serve. Leadership is about taking people not only to where they want to go, but beyond where they think they have the ability to go." — Lt. Gen. Leslie C. SmithResources & LinksGet the book: All the Difference (available wherever books are sold)Learn more about our hosts and upcoming episodes: Braving BusinessCheck out Cara Tanamachi's new novel Kiss, Marry, Kill at Cara the AuthorCatch PJ on The Blackhawks Daily on YouTube and major podcast platformsConnect with Braving BusinessWebsite: bravingbusiness.comFollow us on LinkedIn, Facebook, and YouTubeDon't forget to follow, rate, and review the show on Apple Podcasts and Spotify!
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