From Geology Research to Cybersecurity Leadership: Aakin Patel | Ep052

Episode Information Show NotesSometimes the best careers are the ones you never planned. Aakin Patel went to school for geology. He spent years studying plate tectonics and doing computational modeling. The plan was academia. But grad school revealed something important. The academic life he imagined wasn’t the reality he wanted. So he pivoted. He took his Unix skills from graduate research and landed a job as a system administrator. Just temporary. Just while he figured out his next move. That temporary job turned into a 20+ year career in technology and cybersecurity. In This Episode: Aakin shares his journey from geology to becoming a cybersecurity consultant who advises governments and organizations on strategic implementation. He talks about working at Brookhaven National Labs, dealing with the unique security challenges of international scientific research, and building cybersecurity programs before the field had its current name. The conversation digs into the skills that matter most: problem-solving, communication, and the ability to bridge technical and business worlds. Aakin explains why being able to “dumb things down” is actually proof you understand something deeply, and why teaching others became crucial to his leadership success. You’ll also hear about the day his boss literally put him on a plane to management training, why he initially hated it, and how that moment changed his career trajectory. Key Takeaways: – Career pivots don’t have to be permanent disasters—they can become opportunities – Problem-solving skills transfer across completely different fields – Being the bridge between technical and business teams is a superpower – Learning to communicate complex ideas simply is a leadership essential – Technical burnout is real, and strategic roles can be the answer – Teaching others tests whether you truly understand something – Your ability to build and lead teams matters more than any single technical skill – Reputation and relationships open more doors than resumes About Aakin Patel: Aakin Patel is a cybersecurity consultant specializing in strategic implementation for governments and organizations. His background includes geology and geophysics research, Unix system administration, and cybersecurity leadership at national laboratories. He’s built security teams from scratch and helped organizations implement security programs at strategic levels. His mixed background gives him a unique ability to translate between technical complexity and business needs. TranscriptionManuel Martinez: Welcome everyone, my name is Manuel Martinez, and this is another episode of Career Downloads, where each episode I basically hit the refresh button and bring on a different guest to learn more about their background and their experiences, to help uncover any actionable advice that you can use as you’re managing your own career. So for today’s episode, I’m very excited. I have with me Aakin Patel, and he is a consultant in the cybersecurity space. We’ve had some conversations about, you know, some of the things he’s done earlier on, how he kind of got into, you know, this field, and just the things that he’s done along the way. So I’m interested to kind of get to know him and how he managed his career a little bit more. And with that, I’ll go ahead and introduce Aakin. I appreciate you coming on, Aakin. Aakin Patel: Thank you, it’s good to be here. Manuel Martinez: So one of the things that I kind of start with all the guests is if you don’t mind telling me just a little bit about where you grew up, and then eventually kind of what led you either into the technology field, some people, you know, they fall into it later on. So maybe you started in a different career field. So again, just kind of a little bit of that background about yourself. Aakin Patel: Oh, yeah, so I grew up in the Northeast US in the New York, New Jersey area. I went to college actually for geology and did graduate work in geophysics. And I did a lot of simulation modeling as a part of that because I was studying plate tectonic processes. And, you know, so I did a lot of computer modeling. I got very skilled at like, you know, like Unix systems and like Linux systems when they started coming out and doing some on the programming side, doing some computer modeling. And at some point, I realized that I didn’t want to go into academia, which is where my degree was leading. And kind of as a stopgap measure at the time, I decided to just go out and get a job as a Unix administrator while I figured out what to do with my life. And that’s kind of how I fell into the Unix side of things and kind of grew into cybersecurity as natural evolution roles from that. Manuel Martinez: And when you went to school to kind of study geology, obviously you didn’t want to go the academia side, but what is it that you originally were kind of that attracted you into that field and thought, oh, I want to do something in this area? Aakin Patel: So I’ve always liked like the earth sciences. Like I find them fascinating. I actually very much thought for a very long time that I do want to be a research scientist. So it was like the realities of grad school and seeing like the in-depth look of how that worked and what my long-term, how my long-term career would play out that I realized it wasn’t the path I wanted to proceed down. It was the way it played out in reality. So like I don’t regret doing it. Like I really liked studying that. And it’s kind of like a great like set of background knowledge to have. But like once I realized it wasn’t for me, like I pivoted to something that I could do. And that worked better for me. Manuel Martinez: Yeah, that’s a good point because a lot of times, I mean, especially when we’re that young, right? Or when we’re starting our career, I’ll say, we think that it’s going to be one where we have this grand idea of how it’s going to be and it doesn’t turn out that way. And understanding it’s okay to kind of pivot. So then you decided, okay, I want to do something in the meantime. And you got into Linux system administration. And obviously you didn’t think like, oh, I’m going to make a career at this, at least not at that point. So what is it that you started doing there and kind of start to build that skill set to say, okay, I’m going to at least for now be a good Linux sysadmin? Aakin Patel: So I had to learn Linux system administration and Unix system administration to do the simulation modeling I was doing in grad school, right? Like I worked on Sun Spark stations and then DEC alpha workstations to do a lot of computer modeling. And the DEC alphas ran Linux and the Suns ran Sun OS and then Solaris. So I became good at Unix just as a part of that. So it was like an easy, I could put that on a resume really easily saying, hey, I’ve done all this stuff and get a job doing that. So that was kind of like an easy transition for me while I was looking to go out and kind of figure out, like a stop, I actually just figured I’d be doing that for a year or two, then refresh and then come back into academia. And I just, after a year or two, I was like, I don’t really want to go back. So I didn’t. Manuel Martinez: Did you think that, okay, maybe I’ll pivot and go somewhere else as opposed to staying as a Linux sysadmin? You’re like, okay, I don’t want to go back into academia. That’s not the area for me. Did you think, okay, let me kind of see what this Linux administration does for me or were you kind of exploring other opportunities? Aakin Patel: I wasn’t really sure I was keeping an eye out, but like my first job, like when I switched out was working just off Wall Street in New York City, working on like bonds trading systems. And while a cool job that paid fairly decently, it involved like a two and a half hour commute each way just because of the traffic around New York City. And I rapidly realized that I was doing like 15 hour days that I didn’t want to be doing. And then I got like a different job and I kind of lucked into a job at Brookhaven National Labs, which is one of the department energy national labs, national labs. And they did a lot of very interesting like research projects and like, it was like a very cool facility to work at. And they hired me interestingly because of my mixed background, right? Like they wanted someone with that academic background who was also skilled in technology because it was like a science and research facility and they kind of needed someone who could bridge the two worlds, like the worlds of the academics and the scientists working there with the technology needs and the technology directors of the IT department there that served those scientists. And that’s kind of how I landed in that role. And that was a cool enough job and a cool enough place that I was actually pretty happy staying there for a long time. Manuel Martinez: And it sounds like it probably kind of met a little bit of, like, hey, I’m doing this Linux administration, which you seem to kind of like, but it also gave you some of that research that while you didn’t want to go into academia, it sounded like initially like, hey, this fascinates me. I want to kind of do a little bit more of that research, but not really be like a full-time academic researcher. Aakin Patel: Yeah Manuel Martinez: And having both of those skillsets and being that bridge, one of the things that you kind of told me is there were areas that you weren’t proficient or knowledgeable enough. And it was kind of, you know, you were thrown into this role. So kind of tell me a little bit more about that. Aakin Patel: Yeah, so when I first started, like in the technology field, it’s very weird....