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EPISODE · Oct 23, 2025 · 53 MIN

From Growth Marketer to CMO: How Kelly Cheng Leads Marketing at Goldcast

from The Dave Gerhardt Show (from Exit Five) · host Exit Five

#297 Leadership | I sat down with Kelly Cheng, CMO at Goldcast, to talk about her path from growth marketer to marketing leader, how she’s built and scaled Goldcast’s marketing org, the shift from PLG to sales-led, and why she believes great CMOs play the long game.Timestamps(00:00) - – Intro (02:00) - – Kelly’s path from Hong Kong to Boston (05:00) - – Joining Goldcast and the PLG pivot (08:00) - – Moving from growth marketer to CMO (11:00) - – The role of mentors in her career (19:00) - – Questions to ask before taking a CMO role (25:00) - – Inside Goldcast’s marketing org structure (31:00) - – How Kelly measures brand and mindshare (38:00) - – Why the BDR team reports to marketing (44:00) - – The link between brand, content, and pipeline (49:00) - – Leading with vulnerability and the “long game” Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Webflow - A website platform built for the agentic web, helping modern marketing teams build fully custom sites—no developer needed—that perform in AI search. Learn more at webflow.com/for/exitfive.Markup AI - A content quality platform that scans your content against brand voice, preferred terms, messaging standards, and AI-search readiness before it goes live, right inside Google Docs. Learn more at markup.ai.Optimizely - A no-code AI platform where autonomous agents execute marketing work across webpages, email, SEO, and campaigns. Learn how to deploy agents on your marketing team at Agents in the Mix. Learn more at optimizely.com/exitfive. Walker Sands - An integrated B2B marketing and growth services agency that helps marketing leaders turn strategy into measurable business impact through their Outcome-based Marketing model. Learn more at walkersands.com/exitfive.Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive, or check out the MCP server by clicking this link.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

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