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EPISODE · Jan 22, 2026 · 54 MIN

From Hype to Controls: Securing AI Before Regulation Catches Up

from AI Rebels · host Jacob and Spencer

Most companies are racing to adopt AI, but almost none can explain who’s responsible when it goes wrong. Cordell Robinson of Brownstone Consulting joins the AI Rebels crew to unpack the uncomfortable truth about AI governance, security, and compliance in a world moving faster than regulation. Why is the U.S. is lagging behind on enforceable AI rules, how can existing frameworks like NIST and ISO be adapted to fill the gap, and what does “good governance” actually look like in practice? These are all questions you'll hear answers to. Cordell also shares why annual security checks are no longer enough, and how agentic AI could shift penetration testing from a once-a-year ritual to an on-demand capability. If you’re building, deploying, or betting on AI, this conversation will change how you think about risk, responsibility, and readiness.https://bcf-us.com/

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Most companies are racing to adopt AI, but almost none can explain who’s responsible when it goes wrong. Cordell Robinson of Brownstone Consulting joins the AI Rebels crew to unpack the uncomfortable truth about AI governance, security, and compliance in a world moving faster than regulation. Why is the U.S. is lagging behind on enforceable AI rules, how can existing frameworks like NIST and ISO be adapted to fill the gap, and what does “good governance” actually look like in practice? These ...

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