From Messy to Married

In this episode of “Shrink This!,” Lisa is joined once again by her friend, comedian Beau McDowell, to talk about what actually happens to your love life when you get sober. Beau went from blackout drunk at 21 to nine years sober and—somehow—married, and Lisa wants to know everything about that transformation. They get into the difference between dating when you’re numbing out versus dating when you’re actually present, why early-sobriety relationships can be a disaster, and how codependency sneaks into romance when you’re trying to fill a hole instead of build a partnership. With Celia, they tackle listener questions about sober dating, whether you should drink around someone in recovery, and if people who call themselves “California sober” are full of it. If you’ve ever wondered whether getting your life together ruins your dating life—or finally makes it possible—this episode breaks down what really changes when you stop running from yourself.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.