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EPISODE · Aug 11, 2025 · 25 MIN

From Order Takers to Strategic Partners: The Mindset Shift L&D Needs Now

from The Kirkpatrick Podcast · host Kirkpatrick Partners

We've all been guilty of celebrating the wrong data—hours of training delivered, high NPS scores, without asking if it actually changed anything. In this episode, Vanessa Alzate takes a hard look at how organizations define success, why L&D can't do it alone, and why executive sponsorship is critical to lasting change. You'll hear: The "green smoothie" problem with vanity metrics Why culture change must start at the top (and bottom) How middle management can derail your evaluation efforts What L&D pros must ask themselves about their role in the future It's time to move from learning to performance—and stop pretending the status quo is good enough.   Learn more about the Kirkpatrick Model Watch the Show on YouTube! Submit your Questions/Stories: Do you have a question you would like us to answer on the Kirkpatrick Podcast? Have a story about how the Kirkpatrick Podcast or other Kirkpatrick events/programs have positively impacted your career? We would love to hear from you! Follow this link to submit your questions and/or stories, and we may just share them on the next episode of the Kirkpatrick Podcast.

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