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EPISODE · Jul 31, 2026 · 42 MIN

From Prison to Pardon: Perry Staples on 17 Years of Sobriety and Native American Healing

from The Teaching Journeys Podcast

What does it take to go from prison to pardon — and build a life of purpose?In this powerful episode of Teaching Journeys, host Dave Roberts sits down with Perry Staples, a St. Croix Chippewa Indian of Wisconsin tribal member with 17 years of sobriety, a gubernatorial pardon, and a life devoted to helping others heal.Perry shares his raw, honest story: growing up on the reservation, the grip of alcohol and drugs, six DWIs, four felonies, and 33 months in prison — all the way to receiving a personal phone call from Wisconsin Governor Tony Evers congratulating him on his pardon. Along the way, Perry reveals how Native American traditions, ceremonies, and culture became the foundation of his recovery — and how they continue to guide his work today as a certified peer specialist and founder of the Wings of Migizi Recovery Peer Support Group.In this episode, you'll hear:• How Perry found sobriety in prison — and nearly lost it the night he got out• The five goals that transformed his life after incarceration• The role of the Big Drum, sweat lodge ceremonies, and Native healing practices in long-term recovery• Why Perry believes addicts "aren't scared of change — they're scared of being changed"• How to approach addiction treatment with cultural sensitivity for Native American clients• The legend of chaga and what Native medicine really meansWhether you're in recovery, work in addiction services, or simply want an inspiring story about resilience, faith, and community, this episode will leave a lasting mark.Perry’s Bio and Contact InformationPerry Ginwedibik Staples is a St. Croix Chippewa Indians of Wisconsin Tribal Member who has worked as a Certified Peer Specialist for four years. He has been a small business owner of Two Feathers Construction for the past 28 years, where he provides carpentry services to Tribal elders and community members. He is a serving member of the Burnett County Drug Court, as well as a former participant on the Burnett County Drug Court. Alongside his work responsibilities, he manages the Wings of Migizi recovery/peer support group through the St. Croix Human Services Department. He has been sober for 16 years, enjoys playing golf, and is married with six children and nine grandchildren. Perry is proud to be a member of the Big Drum, which is one of the highest honors within his Tribe.Connect With PerryWings of Migizi Recovery Peer Support GroupPhone: 715-416-8796 (available 24/7)To connect with Dave , go to : davidrobertsmsw.com

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