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EPISODE · Mar 18, 2026 · 47 MIN

From R&D to Phase III- Navigating the New SBIR Landscape

from The Optimize Podcast · host Angela Donahoo, Chris Hamm

The federal government is increasingly looking outside traditional procurement cycles to find the next generation of technology. In this deep-dive episode, Angela Donahoo joins host Chris Hamm to demystify the "alphabet soup" of innovation authorities—including SBIR, STT, and CSOs.     Angie recounts her career pivot from traditional federal contracting to standing up GSA’s first innovation-focused pilot teams. She explains how the Small Business Innovation Research (SBIR) program acts as non-dilutive R&D funding for American small businesses and how the Phase III authority allows the government to rapidly scale those innovations on a sole-source basis. The conversation also tackles current policy debates, including the "SBIR Mill" controversy and the importance of leadership support in fostering a culture of critical thinking within the acquisition workforce.     Topics Discussed   The Pivot to Innovation: Moving from traditional FAR-based contracting to the Defense Innovation Unit (DIU) and GSA pilot programs.       The SBIR/STT Landscape: Definitions of these key R&D programs and the critical differences in their partnership requirements.       Bridging the "Valley of Death": How the SBIR Phase III authority helps companies transition from small pilots to multi-million dollar production contracts.       Commercial Solutions Openings (CSOs): A breakdown of the CSO methodology as a streamlined "Shark Tank" style solicitation process.       Policy & Reauthorization: Understanding the "SBIR Mill" issue and how new legislation pushes oversight back to individual agencies.       The Future of Acquisition: Why streamlined authorities are essential for an overworked acquisition workforce and the likelihood of these methods entering the FAR.     Useful Timestamps   01:12 – Angie's background: From the Federal Career Intern Program to GSA FedSim.       04:48 – Partnering with DIUX (now DIU) to implement the first Commercial Solutions Openings at GSA.       07:43 – The Dog Earmuff Example: A real-world look at why specialized R&D is needed.       10:23 – Breakdown of SBIR vs. STT and the structure of Phase I and Phase II awards.       13:28 – Where to find opportunities: The DSIP portal and SBIR.gov.       16:45 – Scaling the GSA Phase III Innovation Team to a $5 billion portfolio.       26:39 – Tackling the "SBIR Mill" controversy and the reauthorization landscape.       32:15 – Deep dive into CSOs: Process vs. Contract Type.       42:11 – Managing institutional disruption and the importance of leadership "having your back".     Additional Links The Optimize Podcast Website: https://www.visiblethread.com/podcasts/ Host Chris Hamm on LinkedIn: Chris Hamm Guest Angela Donahoo on LinkedIn: Angela Donahoo

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In this episode of the Optimize podcast, host Chris Hamm talks with Angela "Angie" Donahoo, CEO of Over the Valley Consulting and a pioneer in federal innovation. They explore the rapidly changing landscape of non-traditional government acquisitions, specifically focusing on the reauthorization of the SBIR/STT programs and the rise of Commercial Solutions Openings (CSOs). From the "Valley of Death" to high-stakes R&D for the warfighter, Angie shares her unique journey from a traditional GSA contracting officer to leading a multi-billion dollar innovation portfolio. Learn how these streamlined authorities are lowering barriers for startups and why "sole source" is sometimes the most competitive path to progress.

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