From Running to Rock – A Conversation with Ben Part 1 (Audio)

What happens when the life you’re chasing keeps collapsing underneath you? In this episode, Joe sits down with Ben to talk about loss, running, and the slow realization that success, travel, and reinvention can’t fill the ache of a drifting soul. After the sudden death of his father, Ben found himself searching for purpose—through college life, Europe, San Diego, and constant motion—only to discover he was still empty. We talk about grief, the “treadmill” analogy of life without Christ, spiritual curiosity, and the night Ben drove to Walmart at 9 p.m. to buy his first Bible. We explore how a simple invitation to Forge became the turning point where curiosity became commitment and faith became personal. You can run for a long time. But eventually, you have to decide what your life is built on. If you’ve been searching, drifting, or starting over again and again, there is a Rock that doesn’t move.