So live live hi everyone and welcome to the network as it's a nerdy podcast hosted by Northern nerds I am on your horse Sam and I am the host Paul and some you look a bit surprised there because I was being naughty and being Lea I was doing a christen lay when they're trying to do Because if you're on a podcast by christen lays horseman they're trying to film you or catch you off guard because the evil Test the test and I go to see if it's working to sing me a song I was going to say really inappropriate and like really things to get a cancel as well poor face Yes, it is sunday it is sunday night it's a pm so that means one thing which it's the nerdy up north podcast and tonight We are joined by the two equal skills of nerdy up north. We've got we've got the devil incarnate the most evil member of the team that is Go and test me so yes we've got the top grump. We've got the anime club. We've got the naughty boys of nerd And we've got the higher echelon the innocence the good the good guys the guys are capable of specie Like a bullson the wholesome one yes, the one And this is to the whole subdice Yes, thank you for everyone in the chat I can say we've got a few new people as well like horrible but you care Uh, we've got nelly back should join us last week and just join us again bless her and we've got evil lee.
We've got kelly We've got um, yes lee was smartly spied before he came out with booting him out the chat for you Don't tell Molly it's a secret I'm sorry So tonight it's gonna be a wholesome episode it's one that we've talked about doing for quite a while And the guy we're talking about today has popped up in conversation on a numerous episodes We did um the great outdoors with Adam, which was like say one of my favorite episodes And this week I saw a bit a different side of them as well. So um before we get started before somebody gave us Um, give us the disclaimer. I just want to say I like me and I like John candy So yeah, so I think that would be a nice way of saying it there. So give us a disclaimer there Hi, hi Molly Just gonna continue and just forget that So everything just considered his episode is our opinions and it's our opinions alone And if you'd like to discuss anything from today's episode, please come and join us on the Facebook group You can join the dirty up and not discord instagram or the comment section where we have no discussion I thought what we want have is anyone coming for us until our opinions are wrong because we can all agree to disagree and find him So let's keep it fun.
Give a kind and keep the toxic behavior out of notism Yes, well said um this episode was actually sammy's idea as well like she's been carbonon Um, I think with the documentary coming out. It was quite a good timing It was um, it's really like how we did the the ram Williams episode and the segment one as well And I thought I think we think it was on the live The live stream last year when we were talking about space balls. We're like, how have we with us? Yeah, I think how have we not done something but like I know we did the great outdoors, but how have we not explored more of this guy's movies?
Yeah, I think It's like not to get all the press events that they say he was only with us a short time But the amount of stuff and the amount of things he was in the amount of different performances he gives You think like someone with his catalog was being around for years and all with me being Uh, like the elder statement of of this podcast By I felt like I grew up with john candy movies like all the early eighties Like it was always around it was always one of the things that was i've on the tv or something i was watching so um It's like a stable in like my watching or like in my film filmography show. He's there Um, i'll be interested in when like you guys first came about office seen a john candy movie So as chris took a mouthful, i'm gonna pick on him first Uh and go what was your like introduction to the canadian comedian? I think it was actually cool runners Right because I didn't watch much of his stuff on purpose until recently I think more like this week because i'm watching Canadian bacon for the first time Uh a couple of other things and the the documentary which wasn't even on me radar didn't know that was coming out But yeah, he's just like this big lovable character that you kind of just I don't take for granted because he's there and he's a massive presence, but I don't think A lot of people think oh, yeah, um Like I don't know he pushes other people up at the same time the same So when you think of a john candy film you'll also think of like tom hanks or whoever else is on for them Yeah, I fully understand what you mean. It's one of I think I said this in the wrong million episode as well It's a sh it's a shame.
I appreciate him more now than I did then And it's like oh god like thank you for everything that you've given us, but oh my god. Do I now want more? Yeah, and can I just point out as well that you've got um you've got two of the diabetics in the general of the john candy episode Oh It's maybe a bit of my attempt of cleaning off off. That's like my sense of It's not mine.
I just want you to know that it's not mine. What about you Sarah as a technical fool? It's my disself Um to be I think it was probably a good book Right Um, excuse me. I mean it was always one of my dad's favorites to watch when we younger so I kind of like I am as exposed to it quite a lot Um, I think I really I really enjoyed it.
I like I don't think I quite got the meaning as much as I did on rewatching it recently Um, you know, I was what he what five or six movies were nothing about Um, but I just like to add you know, you know rebellious teenager Anything's You know the car that made a big bang. I love that. Um, anything that made a big noise. It's such a big presence in an Unreal and yeah, I know we'll get into the movies a bit later, but what about you?
Some of you always your first like I can't say I genuinely can't say because he's always been there. Um, if it's not a little shop horrors, it's um It's space balls. It's the great outdoors. The only sad thing is that's as far as up until today My my watch history was with him.
Um, I watched uncle book for the first time today I am still yet to see cool runs and versus millions. I've definitely seen but it was you know, it's a long long time ago And so yeah, he's just he's all off stripes. Yeah And I just I don't know. He's just he's always been there anybody has this pin point in movie.
Yeah, probably a little shop horrors Maybe But The films that I grew up with were the great outdoors, Bruce's million splash. Oh my god I'm not gonna be a filmography. Oh my god. The blues brothers.
Yes, I've seen them So it does go a little bit further. Oh, please raise your own wheels. Oh my god. It does go a little bit further than what I think Yeah, it's one of those characters that like even if it's a small role.
He never has a small role He makes it. He's one of these people that makes the most out of it. Whatever you give him He'll go right. I've only got five minutes of screen time.
You will remember me for that five minutes down on screen I agree, but there's not many people that has that kind of like I know I'm gonna use this work quite a lot during this podcast But presence because um there's a like ability. There's a quality to him like an everyman You could like say you want to have a drink with him. You want to go for food with him You want to hang out with him like uh even makes any's not so nice rules He's got that quality that you think are it would be a great person to kind of just talk about and Before we start on the moves, I think that would be a good little like segue into what we all watched this week Which was I like me the documentary of like John Candy and all how I felt Chris has told us a little bit about his uh his parents as well because but I love that Chris had that point of view from it because As soon as he told like if you want to tell us like your viewpoint of it Chris before I saw it a little bit Yeah, so obviously I liked learning a bit more about his life and the story from people, but I thought it was a really long obituary I wanted to hear Fun stories and a bit more about his life and less about how other people viewed his life And I felt like even even at the start when you saw it was a casserohara Yeah, I mean she was talking when she was talking about um doing some of the eulogy Um, it felt like that for however long it was on but from different people who've known him in his life And I think he would have probably liked it better if people were I don't know a bit more funny stories. Um, you know, yeah, but it wasn't it wasn't good Watch I'm not saying as bad.
Oh no, no, I just I thought it was quite interesting at like that point of view as well Because I didn't say like that initially but soon as you said, I was like, oh, yeah, I get that Well, I think it's more down to because when we watch Documentaries or we're in the time now where most of our heroes or scumbags or most of our heroes turn out to be wrongings or uh doing things that they shouldn't be I don't think they got any dirt or any type of crap Well on him or that he did anything wrong. He seems like he was a genuine nice guy with all good intention Like yes, he had a like a switch where if you piss them off, you know, like you were dead, but we all have that type thing But it was kind of like a nice documentary because there was no Negativity it was like this guy was a family man this guy adored his children this guy Like in a time where celebrities are selfish and stuff he would turn down film roles to spend if it was taking them too far away from his kids and his wife And his relationship with his wife that was just one of the most breath-taking things I've seen Um like the love like he could tell he loved her but when she was talking on the thing as well The love from that woman towards john was just honestly it was unbelievable like you don't want me get that and I think it was A few of the castell people were often described as like a perfect marriage and um and I know when you say all there's a perfect marriage and behind closed doors Is it really perfect? But yeah, that one was that one really really was that woman had such a level of understanding for the work that he did Because he was you know from second city into the movies she watched that transition and as a Starting of a young family that car had been easy. She would have done a lot of the home life by herself But in a fazer it didn't upset her she was nothing but you know happy for everything that he was getting because when he was home He was home.
Yeah, he made it a point that he turned a lot of his rolls down There's so much that he would have been in but he wanted to be closer to home He wanted to be at home. So he made you know he He made sure they had a life that was built for for them But he was also going to be a part of it as well. Yeah I thought yeah, it was like so inspirational as well when it come to that aspect because As you're saying there were so many things that like Because everyone like christmas and christmas as well people were telling stories But was more like I just said and lovingly and like not like funny stories like the beginning with danakroyd That just broke me like even within the first two minutes. I was like at tears coming down I was like you could tell like danakroyd We all joke about him now because he is become a shrill he just basically promotes christal school To the houses come on on anything he does but to hear him talking in such a way And because he was out from the start like from every like aspect of john kandis korea danakroyd was there And it like it's um it was just truly in me, isn't it?
I've been trying to find for the last actually since i opened my laptop the eulogy Um, and i've got the transcript of the entire documentary but can i shit find the eulogy and it's the end part That was the not the beginning part of the eulogy but the end part It brought me heart because i was just thinking to myself east on this twice It's such a short space of time. He had to do this for two of his best friends And it's like yeah, it's it's so hard like i know everyone felt the weight and of this of his passing And what blew my mind a little bit was bill mary. Yes The fact that bill mary opens his documentary just me and i was all like i think enough is bill is finally starting to realize his mortality And the life and friendships that he has loved and lost and had to rebuild because of you know We're not here forever and i was so pleased to see bill getting on because he would he would 10 years ago bill would never Have done anything like this see i With bill mary i just said he's very much Own person or himself like he's only something but he doesn't like doing any for an actor He doesn't like doing anything more than he has to let's be honest But i do think from that interview he did with john candy he had so much love for john He would do it on 10 years ago because i don't i don't think he would have i don't think you know until harald rame has died He wouldn't have done because it was it was harald rame is getting ill that you start to see the changing point in bill because he starts to realize shit My friends are actually going here and i need to i need to put my bullshit aside I need to just my personal feelings i'll build i genuinely don't know this But i need to put my bullshit aside because he pissed off a lot of people a lot of people Anything is the level of understanding everyone had for bill because They're still there for him. He's still involved in this this documentary because these are his friends The likes of Eugene levie the likes of um christa kafranohara And these are all like tom hanks is not part of the second city crew But you could tell tom hanks don't have foot on jolly mentory That shocked me well i mean it's calling hanks who's directing it so i was like to think that tom would be involved Um, but i didn't i didn't know he was in splash Gen when they opened to the point of watching the documentary like he's in splash One of my favorite films like um as a kid i watch it again this weekend i'll be talking to me Thoughts there's a lot of nipples in splash splash i don't remember as a kid Donald thank you I'm gonna stop looking for that because i was just gonna do my head in And there was the part of christ mentioned earlier about him, you know sharing the screen I loved it when tom hanks was saying that he never it was never a one-upmanship That they were actually When i talk about one of the movies i watched this will explain This explains john's act and ability and how he is as good as what he is This is gonna sound wrong i don't mean it's gonna think because acting he was amears that improv nobody better There's a reason for that I will talk about it in length when i get to that movie and but yes he used the king of improv But it's not just him it's everyone who worked in second city Do you know how many times he was invited to s&l and he given the middle finger he was like absolutely not i'm not i am not going against My family he was he's there yeah the amount of rules that he should have been in is Mind melting the biggest one obviously I did a lot of rules as favors as well That's what the documentary said yeah John Good because john views is an amears and character writer So and it works all well with john's ability too And but the most famous one that he turned down was um Of course what this was yeah, but that wasn't because it was because he wanted to play him german and didn't So i did a bit of dude I did a bit of digging on this because that's his one story that i've heard repeatedly that he kind of threw east is because these are his brothers Who he's working with it's not just never throw his toys out the fan it wasn't like i think it's just like i don't think Like my I heard dolls i heard dolls throwing out Yeah, well, you gotta think it's not just like i've been right men howl three miss bill mary dan aproy These are his brother and brothers in arms and he kind of like didn't like the idea that nobody was getting his creative ideas That's what the dog that but this is one story and then there's another one who when he read the script went That's not me.
Yeah, this is how i want to do it And that's not how you want it But i know someone who will do this perfectly and it was twice that he give rick marinas up for give a roll up for himself to give To rick marinas now cannot remember the other one i don't know what i genuinely can't remember the obvious kids You know what i think you might imagine john gallelu as that roll though No, i can't know because it's a wince linsky I can't believe i would have like i managed to pull that name out. Yeah I want to find out but yeah Like this like the document was such a like almost like a walk down memory lane as well And I think the important thing to talk about about the documentary as well we talked about before we went live I think we all hit on it is and and sammy Is going a bit more about the interviews like john had a good with or tolerate as well Because like he is a big bloke and in hollywood the big blokes are the funny man or like the ones that you get like The piss date or all the jokes or the and getting played that But some of the interviews that of the time and people ask him or like Like just basically calling them fat at times like what's it like being fat? Why do you think people like the fat man and stuff? And you could tell it was physically hurting like it would hurt me because that was maybe in a rotund Person when people pointed out to me as well i laugh and talk about it But it's still like niggles at us and you can see the hurt in john's eyes As well at first you made a joke over it, but then Kind of like a little bit passive aggressive and say oh, I don't have a problem with it.
Do you? Is like what do you mean? No, I went for you ask the question about you. It's so Yeah, it's not it's not okay to it's not okay to ask them kind of questions But in hollywood they're still kind of using the same techniques as what they did in their 40s and 50s even going back to the 30s It was hollywood trash and if they could get something out of you that they could then be spun on its head They were going to go for the hard-hitting questions The best part about john is is that he came back with and he's torn completely changed Whereas some people would actually give in because they're that scared of the press the press are their friends If you don't have the press then you don't get your movies out John wasn't thinking like that and he went and loved the change in torn in them But I love the fact that when he went on one of the chalk shores he was saying Can you look different from the last time you were here and put him kind of like a bit of a positive spin on the fact that he was Because he wasn't cleaning you know he'd been to this same fitness camp.
Yeah, um But the hard-breaking part of john candy is the the constant fear of death Linger and over his head Born on the 31st of october he's a halloween baby Yeah, at five years old on his fifth birthday His dad died of he was 35 and he had a heart attack And the entire family didn't talk about it So just imagine you are five years old your dad's gone and your family won't even acknowledge his passing And he has to then carry that burden with him and that constant fear He even he was so scared of When it was towards the end he rang kathron or hara on his last movie and said i'm not coming home Something bad is going to happen and i'm not coming home And so he constantly and you didn't actually on that one And but he constantly had that feeling during over him which It's so sad that that's how we had to feel and then when he did try and you know put his health right And he was constantly trying to put his health right he was then constantly called up for the bigger roles And he has a family to feed it's just horrible You know when um, I think you had a panic attack It was some point during the um during the documentary thing where you have no panic attack in a car with a producer or someone And he said i'd stop over here. He said oh do you want to go back the hotel? Give us five minutes. I don't want people to know that i'm unwell because i'll be in the spotlight and people just regardless for stuff Because he had that next role the support he's family didn't yeah He constantly carried the weight of it like if he didn't if he didn't get the success that he did I think he's why i would give two shits.
I really don't I read but that's not what he is. That's not how he is thinking He just wants to cut he wants to make sure that they have this amirs and life and it was funny i shrunk the kids So honey yeah, so he was he was the role of wensielinski was actually written for john candy in mind with chevy cheers being the First time chevy it's not the first time when it comes to certain roles chevy it's either john candy or chevy cheers Great outdoors is another one. It was a top nor it was a toss up between danakroyd and chevy cheers So chevy is always in the back of someone's mind at this period of time in comedy But it was john candy who says this it doesn't feel right and i know someone who would be perfect for this Ripper I Was gonna say so no let me mind this one blank sorry Okay, it's okay. It's okay.
It's a chevy cheese will make a class giant and In her nation kids No, that was Like and all there was two things in the document that stood out one would talk about like the interviews and the questions The other thing is how he was with the kids because One of the things that john candy was always renowned for even in the movies the same as the as not the perfect dad but a great dad that you would kind of want to support it or like and again And he was like to find out he was like that behind the scenes with the kids and how he would look after them and treat them Like the book one where like it actually upset him when he was in the car And they will go to go to the racetrack and he was looking back and say the two kids in the back seat Uh, just the whole idea of it really upset him and I thought that was like quite sweet But the whole mccollie we call him the mccollie called the fact that he recognized it as well That was it because he wasn't telling him he recognized what was going on But it's it's so hard to how does he interject himself into that without it getting messier For not just mccollie this Rory to take into account he was acting at the time as well Um, yeah, that was to being so difficult. I can't even imagine the thoughts that were running because as a father himself He would have been livid anyone would have been And just to make sure that little boy was safe on set like it's all he could do at the time And the fact that it's stayed with mccollie colegan for so long That's thing like He's went through the shit like he's went through as like as much shit as probably any human being called go through as a kid As an adult getting them through exit addiction and coming out this side right now as a Fucking as an human being because the copy needs all the credit No, because I think people just want to focus on that. Oh, hey, look at what he did when he was younger Yeah, look what he fucking did this fucking reason for it I love the fact that he's come out of the other side and he's happy and he's him and his wife is just absolutely Hooking adorable together. He's got a fantastic podcast.
He's a huge wrestling fan. He loves these wrestling. Um, yeah I'm really I'm happy that he is where he is today. It's just it's It's sad, but also at the same time I felt like a little bit of comfort to know that even if it was just that that movie We're calling felt safe.
Yeah, yeah And that's the measure of the man. I think the documentary portrait is our purvery so Let's move on to because we all said we would pick two john candy movies I think we might have picked some of the same mind I tried not to so we'll go with because Chris is up and I'm excited and I'll joy your and bouncing in his seat there Like a little uh, that's boy from Peter Pan Um, what was the one that you chose first and Chris? So luckily I do have uh, my top films because I didn't know what we're picking two We're supposed to do the same as the rubber millions and all but I'm just not observing Um first one, um, which I watch fully for the first time today is trades, please and all of you What a movie Yeah, it's amazing. What a movie.
Yeah, and the motel monologue where he's just like, I like me And my wife likes me and it's just amazing and you can always Everyone's known someone that's a bit annoying but they're annoying because you're a bit of an asshole As opposed to them being genuine. Oh my god. It's Lee and Paul's relationship Just to give you a tiny little fact on Steve Martin and how close he is with the candies when he got a divorce in 2022 When lockdown was just either it was either coming out or going in Um, he went to john candy's wife and stayed with them his port and and guidance and yeah Because it was the only person he trusted in the world to help him get through the shit that he was going and it's all because of him He wanted to be amongst us, but yeah, sorry This is one of my earliest memories of watching john candy I guess I love save Martin like stave martin for me was like one of my favorite actors and again with not really just on in the podcast But again, we should go Appreciate him while he's here Seeing them too kind of like bounce off each other like stave martin was just on fire like unbelievable powerhouse performance and john candy just plays It's so Real so close to that I think and the humor in it is just like the time and like you can't get Yeah, yeah, I mean I would say it's more Slapstick a times a times but yeah, yeah, but because I did pick a few of each because I tried people more serious one but I was like You don't have to To be honest, he has quite a range quite a range. It's not all comedy I mean predominantly it's a lot of comedy, but yeah, if you go looking like I did you'll find a little gym there You've been teasing this obscure thing at giving watching It's just been important.
That's what you think I'm not even gonna lie. John candy porn. Yeah, not even a lie when I started watching it. It looked like porn It looked like 70s porn every I even said something I was like I'm waiting for Yeah, that's what I'm waiting for yeah My favorite bit in playing strings and automobiles is when he's not john candy at stave martin when he thinks he's using the towel And he realizes he's It's like these massive wife ruts Oh, I've got a couple of favorite moments one of them is when the wiggle in the bed and he's like where's your hands in between two pillows I'm guessing that they're in these arse but um And then the the end in bits You know, and you like will they won't and then he goes off on the train and then he then he sees him again He's like oh but it's weird because um Steve Martin's Wife in this the weird moment which it comes down the stairs.
Yeah, I didn't get what that was about It's like she's awkward. So, okay, that's me mommy dad and this and then everyone stops and stares for a bit These wife comes tolling down and like hello Isn't that because if you thought he was gonna miss christmas for the first time ever and he was like Dining it back to it's like oh long last of others. You know when you actually have the same family He's the love you work partner and want to say you're christmolly. Hope you listen I love molly very very much But I think it would be weird if i bring Lee home for christmas and then it was just like oh, he has my son He has my turtle and then molly sees molly hoffrey coming down the stairs and there's a weird eyeglans about you He was made each other before Let's just Let's just point out that christmolly made plans with us in february and kids across from valentine's day That's how much he loves molly did yeah another day Another day That's a given what valentine's day yes, he wouldn't make plans with us if he could if he class without n-state Sarah you were fan of planes trends and all bills Yes, I mean, how can you watch it and not feel anything really?
Yeah, you you pretty much dead if you don't Inside i mean i love i'm not the massive and i'm not the biggest fan of seps to comedy Especially when it's the expense of like wait Especially in john's um a lot of john's um scenarios and movies But i love what's behind the character, you know, he's trying to make it look like he's living a normal life Everybody else where it's like you find out later on that his wife Isn't here anymore. Um Did you say that? Did anyone say that comment on it? No, no, I watched this for the first time last year because a certain american told us i had to and And so I watched it for the first time last year and I I broke like hysterical cry and I Couldn't brave try it.
I don't remember my first reaction for it I doubt that I did see it coming because it's a long time since I first saw this movie Um, yeah, I watched it again recently like a month ago Because i grew up on steve martin movies like the man with two brains is one of like it was the funny move It was a family movie It was my family movie with dr for far Yeah, and i grew up rock sand sorry rock sand I yeah, I grew up with it with his movie so how I this one didn't cross my path until last year as crazy This is one of the better christmas like I would always pass this as a christmas Christmas film yeah, yeah, I agree Cool. Do you not think it's my time? You can make a living from selling curtain chow our curtain poop and you want to find out? Should we find out send christen christalia in american saving something?
It's a salesman for a year. See what happens that'll be fun We wake up in a different single motel bed every morning With the hand between I like how you assume that i'll be the big spoon No, i've been to the way around So sarah which one have you picked them for the first one? I've picked one of my um favorites. It was all of my favorites when i was younger and i got to kill runnings Um feel the rhythm feel the run.
Yeah Do you want to get spobs later? Yeah Me and my friends went round went through a phase of of of what maybe it's not um In the best of interest shouting hey raster your day Okay It was my choice of moving to watch with john khandian when i was younger i loved it, you know like um The completely unexpected entry of a jimmy eken bobsled team to the olympics something i've never been done before and lucy based on a true story who would have um You know maybe that's as much as i was should i've never seen it I've been trying to initially feed his need to win, you know Made even more relevant when you find out that his need to win came from cheating Um, i like this one as well because john khandian this isn't all like he's not the hero at the start. Yeah, he's a bit of a twat So you don't he's a gun blur. He's oh my god.
What was his character called They say to use nor that this in the documentary that said he used to go to like he's caught two character and it ended being the majority of the characters that he ends up playing Oh my god was it? Johnny Toronto That's it. It's like him. No, it was like a downbeat one.
Yeah Like if Johnny lost all of his charm and then that's it. Yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah, but i thought it was a great idea initially to try something completely out there You know no one should be foreign although they went in as a laughing stock They gained their respect of everybody in the olympics and like even when some of the other teams and the judges were like Prejudging it just because of earth They never gave a team a chance because of who the coach was Yeah, and I think it's one of these better performance. I'm not wrong. It's about performance because it's so understated It's very underplayed for him.
I do. I do. I believe it is a very um understated role I need to watch it. I do need to watch it.
I do It was one it was one I was gonna watch to do until I mean i've got into it that he was not in a right before yeah And then uh And then I thought the documentary on again. I thought no i wanted to watch it. I wanted to watch it on the documentary again. I thoroughly enjoyed that So that is the top notch documentary.
Cool runs is up there. It's like just like again I know some sense just like slapstick there is slapstick comedy in this is like one of the uh And bobsley as he can't uh sanke can't get his helmet on so so john kindly's smashing my butt there The helmet to get on to know Perfect. Can I just don't like it? It's got its place but i don't like the fact that a lot of the slapstick in john's movies were Related to the weight the size of all the yeah Because it's clear sport.
I don't like it in the sense No, I get that then yeah, I think I think when you watch the documentary as well It was very much against like using that as like as a crutch or thing he said He would make reference to it or have jokes about it, but I think it was one I've come up was a stripes where the two try to get me to have a mud wrestling and take your stuff Yeah, yeah, and he wouldn't take the top off. No, he wouldn't but he uh No, totally if he's not comfortable, he's not comfortable and I even I even knew that as soon as he said no The issue wasn't brought up again, but can I ask you a question there was something I was thinking earlier today? John obviously left us in oh hi child which child sorry? Hi, fria Hi, and john left us in 1984 and this is a time when I think Hi, I think we've been we've talked about this before how comedy was transitioning from the eight east to the 90s How do you think john would have fit into the Night end of the 90s beginning of the early 2000s the way the comedy was going at that time Do you think he could have transitioned or do you think because his style of comedy has started to become a loser?
Oh, they get started to disappear. I think you would have went to Tom Hanks role Where i'm serious gone more serious like that I kind of feared the way he did like rules like my girl and stuff like that Where I could see probably be type cast the like Pickles dads in movies like teenage like all the teenage films like the father figures or anything I could probably see him and probably the turn point I mentioned before was gf kir I think that could have been like the starting point of him then going into bigger Not bigger roles but more of shown the actor rather than John the comedian That's exactly what I was thinking because gf kir is 1991 he dies in 1984 if that didn't happen and he is still here because he should still be here And I think he would I think he would have went down because cool run-ins essentially is the last big success he has Which is quite sad given that he has three more no sorry two more movies after that and But gf kir was such a turn and point for him in his actinability He was he was brought on by all of a stone who saw so much potential in bringing a serious side out of him when he is filming I don't know if you've ever seen it but in his scenes he is a sweaty mess And the kind of incorporated into his character. He is just Sweat is peeking out of him and that is pure john candy that is no effects whatsoever. That is him He's breaking it.
He is so scared He's from all this and all these big wigs and all these really serious because he doesn't see himself as a serious actor Until all of a sudden shores him back what he did and he went you have a place here You are meant to be here And I really think because of that he would have I think he would have gone down the tom hanks kind of road and started looking at more You know, I think so. I just don't don't get it right. I think I think he's his style of comedy is brilliant And I would love to see I would love to have seen a transition to where we are today, but it's never going to happen Yeah, why would you disagree? So I'm only disagreeing because Knowing about his life and how much he loved his family and wanted to spend time with them Because his dad was never there because he died when he was young I would want him to take a more of a background role still get paid so he can go home every night And I think he would have he would have took on I agree he would have took on like the tom hanks more serious roles But I think he would have went more producing as well Of course he would have like I can go to my um, what was it the um the farm or the ranch that he bought Get away from everyone the farm people just went there I was close my eyes when they were describing that farm and it was just because my head's absolutely poundent at the moment And I kept them closed until they finished describing it and it was like oh my god It sounds so magical and then it had a little red cabin in there too You're a born and I was like So magical yeah, especially for a Canadian Um, yeah, but he was also he was he bought football team He did that before it would become you know trendy to do and so he clearly had a business head on him So you're right maybe going in directing and producing could have been some I just it was a conversation that we had about the changing Um, which you call it like a changing comedy and how it's this his style starts to like transition out And it's just like how would he have?
Corped with that transition if comedy was something he was going to be staying with if you look at this It's a hard one because if you look at all the films he's in there's a fucking a lot of them but All the type of comedy he was doing like if you look at like the instan's on space balls little shot horrors Blues brothers summer rental, uh, who's harry chrome stuff like that? It's very much the hemas I feel bad since it was like a quite a multitude of different types of humor He wasn't quite the the teeny the like what's called like the american pie's that type comedy like the police type comedy I don't think he would have fit in that star So and the 90s when it comes to comedies it started becoming more risky more avant-garde shall we sit? Yeah, he was he was very family friendly But what blows me mind is um, using using levi levi levi and how he starts with john back in second city They're like you know best best friends or Eugene's managed to transition through time You know with the american pies with the likes of shits creek and he's managed to stay relevant within the comedy circuit as it is In the time. I don't know how john could have done that given the family friendliness that comes from him He never and i'm not going to say i'm not using push the board i'll push the envelope in a bad way He kept it in one lane of family friendly comedy I could say i'm going down the disney route because disney live action was probably just like becoming more prevalent because they were moving away from Um, the like the 2d carvings the start Yeah animation so He already had he's um hand in the disney pie.
That's true It was just something i was thinking of today. I was like could he have Sparked from a conversation we'd already had and i just had more to do the things run through my head What about you sammy? What was well? Wow Wow So i have watched today um i woke up and watched it takes a couple of months watch stripes and i want to talk about that later And then i watched the what you call it?
I'm going to book I'm going to be talking about it for frickin ages watch uncle book and i watched the great outdoors because i just i I know that we've already done an episode on it and if you want to hear me thoughts on it you go and watch that episode But i decided to pick that Sorry, i was just i was going to go into a full scene there And so i decided to go down the obscure route and i had a look at his earlier work And did you know that john handy was an horror film all right? Yeah, i was like i had to go and watch it because it's john can he's in a horror film It's called the clown murders I saw it on um is i am tv page and i thought oh it's no way i'm watching It's one of the earliest films i've ever done and the executive producer of this went on to go and do to grassy the next generation And it's on youtube if you want to go and see what i mean by it looks like It's born because it really really does it's so grainy It's so the tracking on it is terrible but john is really really young in it And it's about clowns on halloween who kidnapped a businesswife and i'm just looking at this synopsis because i really did skip all this And yeah comes kidnapped this woman and that's about it I think it's fair to say we've not seen that movie Nope but i did i did um i i i went and watched it actually got a DVD released in 2007 And but it's only licensed yeah, um image entertainment brought it out But yeah, it's um it's martin burk who wrote and directed it and i can't even think of what he did No, it sounds awful. It really is the last movie he ever did was the clown murders He's a documentary filmmaker More than anything else a very serious documentary film It's going to be either a top-groom set of swords or an episode of monsters at half I will be happy if top grumps took it on but Because i can't see this getting passed on But yeah, it's called the clown murders it is on youtube for your view and free pleasure But i had to go and check out john kand you know or a movie Right, so that's interesting i'm interested in your take on all book because you said you first time watching today Yeah, absolutely loved it. I did want to punch the nieces face in quite a few times She is a dick She's such a bitch, but it's an all she has her little redemption part of the end and met man She gets you nash and makes up with that mother but come on that you are now you waitable and destroy his life His relationship.
Yeah, yeah, um, yeah, um, monitoring world from t-moo. Yeah. Yeah, which is version of monitoring world And i love how she dressed though. She's very smart for a teenager.
Yes, she was very jennifer grief Yes, yes, yes very jennifer great. Um, but yeah, I absolutely adored it He his performance and that is hilarious the scene when he busts in on the kid in the bedroom and realizes it's not his knees But he's like, yeah, i'm so not fucking happy about the situation Yeah, and then he's already drilled the m the drill through the lock on the door first And then they're in the car and he's like, what did you do with him and it just had big smile on his face I did not see the fact that he was gonna beat in that trunk. I was like, there was so many regular So many laws broken right here. M but i loved the relationship he had with these other nieces and nephew and the conversation Him and mccot it did help that i'd seen the documentary before had so knew how that scene was done But just how quick they were with each other I love that that's it that mccot it was because normally like john candy tries to say to people and keep up with him The call the call was like, can you keep with me motherfucker?
Yeah, yeah, I loved this. It was it was just really like hard. I did I felt ideal for a sunday watch I know it's a john he was home. So there's a lot of punch like moments where you've punched the air like saying yes Um, I just love the fact that john he was in the ear he's like writing these and these movies He done you don't script the way it signs within 24 hours.
Um, he saw john candy and look john candy went I'm making a film that's just for john candy and this is how we're best Every single moment because you get the lovable you get the the devious you get the scary because he's scariot times Um, but my favorite moment in trommel book is when you get that the mall teacher basically Oh, josh Trust us in the little kids in she's a dreamer. She's she's not taking the space and the way he handles that situation. It was like Fuck yes. Yeah, it was so good And it was another thing we learned in the documentary as well that john he was in john candy were best friends They they they vacation together their kids grew up together.
Um, but yeah john he was so good at right. He's such a good character writer And he's stories are this simple but effective And as i found out today Oh, gosh That the last from uh, please girlfriend was gladi and weapons So I'm sitting looking at i going why do i recognize your face and we've just been watching grays anatomy recently and she did this scowl With our face now, but oh shit. It's merited. It's thermost in grays anatomy left it at that and then pull blue in my mind with the movie I only watched last week with hands One of the greatest horror icons to come out this year So basically when How could i not see it Yeah I was just gonna say i think that the parents and that i should I From someone who said why are we missing the fact that these parents have really shit and john candy's gone in there and done a job that they couldn't Yes When apparently the kids right put them on the right track and left Yeah, that's all we need to do two weeks of john candy book is the super nanny Yeah Yeah, I really enjoyed it felt so fitting watching it on sunday that straightaway afterwards I went and watched the great outdoors because it was like that sunday feeling I wanted to continue I think we've talked about previous episodes of certain films are certain franchises that you feel like you watch on a bank All the on a christmas ace there or on a sunday that feels quite confident I think that's the best way to put it.
I am I also watched what I would class as a bank holding one A movie which I watched with complete new eyes today um one of my favorite films now After watching the documentary I know i'm not doing so much I've got a whole new love for the performance in this movie. Um, I watched the 1984 film with tom hanx and darl hanx and darl hanx and where john candy players idiot all the brother of Like tom hanx's character where darl hanx realistically plays one of the most beautiful creatures ever created in the world because she is and is a mermaid As i said i think i said everyone messes in i've never seen so many nipples in this movie Because i was remembered as being like hidden behind hair and stuff i guess but it must be like edited or cut for tea Me for tea like the TV version. Yeah, I was like, yes, I was like, this is a news and i'm saying darl hanx full boobs This is the best thing of my life and she's got a good rack i'll tell you that um, but yeah, yeah, she has But the performance of john candy in this movie is so like cool runnance It's not a huge part, but he the bits he's in he stands out The performance with him and tom hanx the interaction in the office is just fucking even more hilarious Now you know that it's all adenibed like everything that happened in the office just like was john candy and tom hanx Just riffing off each other like when arguing and Sorry arguing about the desk that wasn't in the script that was just tom hanx and john candy just in right? I'm gonna meet this talk are you gonna play along and i did and the fact during the the racquetball scene there when the plane s washing the thing?
When he's hanging out he's asked He's acting home over no he just getting into hours before film that i have to drink all night with jack fucking niggles So he's and he's Not only survived a drinking session with jack niggles and he managed to do that performance as well. That's Credit him, but i don't think it's a performance i think he gently was done just that him He's like there's no acting in it And the fact i asked the question i'm saying i can't be texting the tikt for you to hit the ball It's a fear Did somebody talk through it? I thought that was impressive Well, as i said the slapstick of that scene is just fucking comedy ball like literally We're going through and there's so many like so many great performances in this movie that you forget about that That was like Eugene levi is on a fucking rail in this movie like god's Hilarious like literally from the moment he comes on the screen he becomes the biggest asshole But he has some of the best jokes and stuff and i'm a really nice guy i'm just got no friends And like him I constantly getting braid up by different people because he's doing stupid things and Like you cannot help but fall in love with darrel hannah in this movie as well Like i can understand why tom hanks is character just right now i can't give a fuck i don't know any of them i love you Because she was just mesmerizing in this movie Lot more adult themes than i remember but to be fair it is in the 80s for a lot of the 80s for like Look at big and stuff like that there is a lot of adult context in the movies that you can't remember because you're a kid But splash like watch it now if you see it with complete new different eyes and it's just like magic It's magical. Do you think the documentary helped you with more of what you saw?
I found certain aspects are funnier than i probably would have because you realize how Because it's just you think oh it's just good act and it's good lines But no one them to it is to have the like the best time and play with it I'm kind of having fun with each other. It's kind of like you get a whole different perspective and it becomes a little bit as well I think the documentary helped me. Um, I mean, not that i didn't love john candy anyway But um, I think it helped a lot more with like respect for doing what he did considering what his background was Yeah, respect the craft. Yeah, yeah, respect the craft.
It's a lot like um, what was it? What ropamujin said about depression? It's like the people that are the saddest always trying to make people laughing is the back of that one Um, I think that um john candy had a similar outlook on that considering his own background He was always there to try and like make other people happy so You know, they didn't have to feel as sad or as anxious or as You know concerned about health as what he did I wish I watched it, you know, I really wish i was like, I don't have seen it But I just can't remember any bit of it and so when he said you doing levies and i'm like, oh well When you as soon as you said that I don't know why but instantly my brain went straight to stay tuned Because he's in he's in that and i'm like i'm trying to like this i have my rolodex is trying to pick out Eugene movie's this is very much a manic career is a Eugene levies I guess that he plays a scientist in the movie where He's basically obsessed to try and prove the world that the movie has exist and it's like Blinking in this and he's in the water scuba diving trying to take pictures of how he drops the camera and just wins off And The streets of New York trying to pull water on a blonde woman, I think since darama Tends it's not and he's getting pretty low by the block. It's like that type of humor But it's it's so well, but john can't be as i said, he's just playing like a bit of a sleazy character This as well, it's like he's drawing coins on the floor and not winning the skirts and stuff It's like probably weird but it doesn't in the charm and where you don't think oh You're gonna be a huge re-type thing.
Yeah, just remember Who's at the time? To the time. Very much the time. I kept thinking that because it would be like there'd be certain scenes where like oh yeah You used to be at a smoke in restaurants.
He used to be able to do this. He's been doing that It doesn't really matter that the drink is driving because it's the eighties Who cares? Who cares? Who cares?
Please You've left two really young kids in the house while you pick up the oldest one from school eighties Eighties parent and it's finest They'll be reading All right, so I was gonna pick up a book um Do you know what it is? I try to watch this with Finley because I watched it on the computer And so he was stood there and he's watching it for a little bit And you know the opening scene where um it's the older sister and the younger one and the token and she says shit or something like that It's on tellin' on you look for to say in a swear Soon as I happened Finley looked up went through the molly and just went Daddy's watching that film that says a bad word on it. It said shit. I'll say on that You crossed it.
You always saw a grass joke I think I think you wanted an excuse to say the word shit Okay, yeah, so I was like I might leave it a couple of years But um Since we've already talked about it on the book I watched Canadian bacon for the first time because I saw it and it was his most recent And I feel like it's a it's a Parody kind of satire to it. Right. Have you seen it? No, not for a while.
I watched it years and years ago, but yeah, it's not one that's on the other playlist I'm kind of a viewer Chris. I always want to go with the book as well as the second choice board. Um, yeah, I think I'm gonna go community and be a few But yeah, it's like the present the exact you like today to say it's viewed as weak So he basically has to find someone to start a war with who else Americans have peace in their time Yeah, yeah, need that water get the voting and uh, funding so declare war on um Canada and then john candy plays a chief of policing. I think it's Niagara Falls.
That's on the border, isn't it? Yeah, right on the border is the American side of Niagara Falls. Yeah, so he's a very Susceptible American in tea rallies the town to form a god and stuff against the Canadians and Sheriff's but boomer. Yeah I think it was one of them family films because he's kind of like it was nothing out there I just thought it was interesting because I had a bit of satire in it and a bit of really ability to today But I don't think it's like a standout role for candy I think trust in all the idea and the context of Canadian beer can especially with the director Who's there?
Michael Moore Who has done a few documentaries like highlighting how shit America is Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think Michael Moore has this knack of like knowing what's coming Well, that as well, but kind of like it's um, I wouldn't have Like in previous in some previous presidents. I wouldn't have said this was a possibility Yeah, but in the current one I could definitely see it happening today. It's quite scary as well when Saya becomes real Yeah, yeah, I did enjoy seeing um reappearment in this store. Yes.
She was really good at this. I enjoyed her and I think she again, I thought it was kind of like junk candy kind of like took the step back to allow Ria's um Story line to complete because it's interesting you're saying this is more straight than this wasn't this most recent one he filmed This was filmed in 1993. It was released It was released after he posted as well. So, um, but yeah, it was the most jarring for me watching this.
You got a beard Yeah, it's weird, isn't it? Yeah, he had a beard for the great outdoors. Um, and all right, you know, he doesn't but when he went to go and film it He thought oh great outdoors, you know be it out. You know, I'll hit the part and then just went oh And that's not what this is about I love his cliche haven't faced though.
He's like such a very face That you put on this on this same screen call Yeah, I think it's a picture of him. I think it just emphasized everything about him as well Yeah, he's going adorable face. So you're doing a double pick with Canadian beer and then so So sorry, sorry for the second choice. It's been a while since I've done this since I've done this Um, yeah, Sammy doing it because I'll finish yourself.
I think yeah Stripes yeah, I love this film for so many reasons because it's Ivan Reitman And it's Bill Murray at Tarold Rames and obviously John candies in it and it's got one of my favorite lines One of my favorite lines in the map we're mutants. There's something wrong with us something very very wrong with us Love it. And however John John candies in this movie and what I've been having to read about it today. This is how This is it.
I'm not saying how but this is the movie that kind of it's an acting class for anyone who wanted to get into improv Comedy or acting this movie is 90% improved because Ivan Reitman knew who he was working with And obviously it's Ivan Reitman and Bill Murray. Bill Murray then is like I have to have my best friend on this film with me Because it was gonna be Chuck Tius Again and you're like no, I need to have my best friend on this film with us And that's how Harold Reimers got the job because he knew Harold Reimers when I came down to improv He's the guy you need to go and see and his second choice was John candie because again If we're gonna be doing improv if this is gonna be kind of built on the comedy that we've been doing Bill Murray needs his people with him and Harold Reimers and Ivan Reitman and John candie are it And it was them two who helped rewrite his dialogue and really helped him get into the improv of this movie And there's a scene in it where because it's all it's about is Bill Murray's a dick Who is down on his look and for some reason thinks it's hilarious to join the army Along with any dragsy's best friend for them who is Harold Reimers He meets that this absolutely crazy crazy platoon which includes John Candy in it And there's a scene where they're all going through because it's just basic training and they're going through getting their hair cut Ivan Reitman didn't tell them that it was real And all the reactions that you see on camera is their genuine reaction of them getting their hair cut So when you see John Candy had to be removed from set in tears Because he's sitting there and he has the buzz cut his hair off Bear in the mind. They did not buzz cut Bill Murray's hair off or Harold Reimers Just John Candy and the others of them the other actors But yeah, when he's he's sitting there and he's getting his hair cut and you see the realization that Oh, this is real and he's like and he's holding his own hair At the end of these walking out and it's okay. Okay.
He's like crazy And he's stroking his own hair and then all that they went to cut the camera They had to give him a big hug and Ivan Reitman had to report he was in tears He was so upset he lost his hair and realized it was gonna happen and But yeah, this is predominantly then there's some brilliant Brilliant monologues that come out of this especially John Candy's when they're doing the stories of why they are there And it's just it's ridiculous. The movie is ridiculous and so unrealistic even though the army loved it Like this wouldn't happen in basic training. They wouldn't get away at what they did at the end with their whole roll call and then going off to say What oh it was just it was so out there But the army was so fully supportive of this movie because it was just showing it in a great light And what if I get spoots and barracks exactly yeah, and PJ Soles was absolutely fantastic in this movie I often forget that she is in it and And you want boobs because all's are in this again For the first time and I love that you've picked this movie as well because this is kind of like the like John Candy as he said with these i've loads of different rules But this was like the starting point where John was like i'm gonna be more in movies now I'm moving away from tv and all splashes credited as the movie that basically Projected them into the main like main movies like stardom typing But I think stripes is the movie that gave him the confidence that he was gonna be a movie star Yeah, and it was affecting the same of these friends the people who the people that we trusted the most And that he was he was getting to work with them and like I say you want a master class in improv and in acting This is the movie to watch because there is don't watch bill mary No, because it is from honestly bill. I love bill mary.
I really do he would he when you have him standing up against harald raimas You forget how good harald raimas actually was. I know he overshines them in ghostbusters And there's a reason for that's pitz character. That's what he is today to do He can't do that in this movie because harald raimas just It's all over him and go be careful. There's children there.
Um, yeah, so he crops all over him But then you then you got the likes of john canty coming in and just Every scene he's in is just perfect the and the pork again. Yeah Oh, I just brilliant where he's sitting there and he tells him and he basically looks at his cards knows what he's got But like yeah, just go on in go on you play you play and he's like yeah, you lose So good only for trying and That's all that scene in the talk Yeah, he's like so encouraging you're almost getting it. It's almost there, but i'm still you keep taking your money the um the scene the The blood wrestling scene. Yeah, the documentary makes it look more dire than what it actually is And because it does start out because john obviously didn't want to do it Then you didn't want to take his top off you just didn't want to take his top off And but when when the scene gets played out He knocks them women out In a fun way They kind of they kind of start putting on a show towards the end And the women start helping him on how they were going to do maneuver it was you could see how it was Like playing out with them trying to get him involved.
So it didn't look like they were just beating this man up Yeah, yeah, the movie was so good. It's been such a long time since i've seen it And it just made me really not just appreciate john but harald reamus as well. I think with stripes as well It's as you said it's considered a bill mary movie It's considered like the start point of bill mary success as well because um It did a lot of different things a lot of different movies around that time But stripes is the one that kind of like was like the torch or the lighten diffuse for like the kind of what to come And also Not the bad way but kind of like lit the torch for the negative bill mary as well Is the eagle starting with the Yeah, this really is the amount of people he fell out with in this movie and refused to work with again Because apparently at this point in his career he has pulled like that And the people woman who played alongside vj souls sharn young refuse to work with her ever again said she was absolutely awful But yeah, honestly bill isn't the funniest thing in this no he's good But he's not the funniest and his character is awful. Yeah, and bear in mind He created that character His improv His choice of dialogue he created that person he didn't create a likeable person at all.
Yeah, I don't know I don't think he's like a blinco's buster's to be fair He did that back but he's a bit of a slimy dick Anyway, it actually happens to him and Harold Raimus if there was one woman very like yeah, I'm loving this it's absolutely great And that's why I have to do it again I'm going to kill you And he's trying to like portray everything's fine And he's like, no, this is the worst moment of my life. I think I'm gonna die And he just would get how funny Genuinely funny and how talented Harold Raimus was like in front of the camera behind the camera If you haven't to bring in your best friend who is the king of improv into your movie because you need him to make you look good Yeah, and it was a good it was honestly I do it's a long film. Yeah, I was like, I think the average was around about one hour forty one fifty for most films like I came out that time What's wrong with the good old lady minutile? I can't believe it involved Um, yeah, I'll go with my last pick now Yeah, it's again one of the films that I just adored bringing up But I think it showcases how Good john candy is because he's up against such a powerhouse Uh, Bruce's millions with Richard pryer because Richard pryer is like huge And at this time like there was no bigger star than Richard pryer like the films he don't say no evil Like he stand up Richard pryer is just He is the king He is the king of comedy And haven't john because john's character in this is his best friend Um Again quite laid back not not a big personality But the way he plays without him the change and the growth and like everything in there like the one line is Like the start of the baseball game, um, Why he's taking the piss out of like that?
I wasn't the start was when the Richard pryer's character, uh, money broster Pied for the new, uh, the new york Uh, what we call the youngies The youngies, uh, the youngies the common player this minor league baseball team Like you know, right to try and spend his money Um, I'll give the premise of the film if anyone hasn't seen the second book Um, john candies like play in the catcher And he's basically just taking the piss out of like the people who were back to try and put them off So Richard pryer could get them out And he's talking like the best friends and he's like, oh, I saw a picture of your wife though Yeah, what a fucking dog And the guys just came in the argument and I think like the reaction to stuff It's just time and at its best But the whole idea like this idea is just brilliant I don't know how this hasn't been remade now because I think it would work so well as a new movie Basically, Richard pryer's character, uh, Rick Rick Rick Rick, we're at ungull, we never knew about passes away And he's like a multi-billionaire multi-millionaire A multi-millionaire at the time, right? And in hurry's fortune of 300 million You've got to spend 30 million, uh, dollars in 30 days Now when you spend the money, you can only give away a five percent of charity You can only gamble five percent away You can only employ people if they provide a worthwhile service Anything you buy, you cannot own, you cannot have any money for your value at the end So he's basically trying to blow 30 million in these 30 days It's basically, it's the old, um, kind of like impression where If you get caught as a kid smoking a cigarette You make you smoke the whole pack of cigarettes So that you look at your sick of them, you never want to do it again So his idea is I want to make you spend so much money That you hate money, that you hate spending money Um, but the goal post at the end is you get 300 million to make it safe So, well, yes Swellers Swellers, yes, he does You had a spoiler movie that came out in the year, he's kind of? No, but I have seen it before, but it was like, yeah, it's a younger It's just like a Missed-Up East video It's just how he holds up and stands these ground with like a powerhouse of Richard Pryor And, um, that's a feat, that's not a business And it's how Richard Pryor's character money isn't like we're telling anyone Why he spend money, so everyone thinks he can see and stand on this money And John Canties, like trying to be the voice of reason in these type of scenario Yeah, how is, how is, how is prior within law? You know how we've been, you know, we know that John works all well Others and bring it other people up, it's probably like that within Yeah, it's like a body film They're like, right, I guess he's got that from like Jane Wilder doers, doesn't he?
Yeah, so it's kind of like, it flows nicely There's no big moments between them where one tries to overshadow the other But yeah, it's kind of like, the play of each other well John has more like comedy, like slapstick comedy with the people around him Like this is for Tom and Richard Pryor's money appears on the teapotographs and document everything else going on I mean he's like arguing and fighting and kind of like having a tit for tat with him So that's kind of like the comedy value there But it's just like, as you say, how like, say if I'm like in her to 30 million And I'm trying to spend that 30 million and you're like, you're wasting money You'll be like, that's my best friend, you'll be like, how do I stop holding on wasting this money? That's what John Canties kind of do? Right, right Because like one bit is like, oh I'm taking somebody, I hope you don't mind And I'm using this guy and invested, I made it 10 million I'm just trying to make this for example, even suppose back to the start You didn't know, because John Canties is like, why does the guy here? Does that just mean I'm 10 million dollars?
Yeah I have seen it, Richard Praggy was that, you know, that kind of Can't make it with, especially in East doing Wilder Days as well We would not even have him on in the house, but I just can't remember the story I can't remember the film, I'd do what I would go out and watch it I'm gonna make an effort to start watching these movies on a Sunday Because I got such warm and lovely feelings this morning watching on Go Vogue I really did, I was like, oh it's Sunday and I'm like, I'm watching this because I kind of have to in a way, but at the same time, if I didn't I could have quite easily just pulled space balls out and Little Shop of Horrors, but I really wanted to watch it Oh, that's fun If you look at all the films, I'm not going to go through them all, but from his back catalogue, there's movies that And all, we'll talk to people to say, oh, we'll talk with John Canties Oh, it wasn't the end such and such, there'll be a film that he's done That will be in people's favorites, or top tens or stuff Always Like Home Alone, the rescue is down under, on O'Bock, who's Harry Chrome, great outdoors, Summer Vacation, which, sorry, Summer Rental, which is one of the Is that the theme park place? No, no, the Summer Rental is basically, quick discussion, he's basically An airport attendance that is having stress, so he got to get sent on vacation at a Summer Rental, and it's basically, I used to always get mixed up with great outdoors, because he goes, it's basically, he goes and holy, but The Rental he gets is this dilapidated pile of shit house next to the beach that people use as a DOS house walk through, he's got a broken leg, so he's on crutches, and it's like one of those famous scenes where they're trying to get a space on the beach, and he's got a cooler, and he's walking across the beach, and the tap on the cooler opens, and he's pouring water all over the people on the beach, that's lying down, so all the people are different, he's like apologizing and stuff like that, but it's got every single like kind of, like I said, it's one of my favorites, Summer Rental, but not many of them know about it, but like I said, SPS walls, little shot horrors, playing streams and automobiles, Bruce's million splash, National Conve's vacation, Heavy Metal, the Blues Brothers, the fucking Blues Brothers, we haven't even spoken about the Blues Brothers, we have to un-epstone another, do you want to know about that? But these are just like movies that you could just... Yeah, it's crazy, it's crazy, I'm sitting there going, oh I have, you know, a handful of ones that I can say that are like kind of close to us when it comes to John Candy, and then I remember he's in this, and then he's in that, and I know this one, and just to make things a tiny bit somber at the moment, for a moment, and John Candy died in his sleep at the age of 43 on the 4th of March, 1994 while he was filming in Mexico, and his funeral was held at St Martin's Catholic Church in Los Angeles, what we see at the beginning of the documentary is his memorial service in Canada, and then obviously his funeral takes place, and it's mentioned in the documentary as well that by using the LAPD shut down one of the highways, which is something that they never do in honour of John Candy's funeral, he is buried at Holy Cross Cemetery in Culver City, California, he has a beautiful, beautiful crypt, he is, yeah, it's not a mausoleum, which I know, so the mausoleum is the one where you are, you can go inside, the crypts are the ones that are on the wall, and he goes up, and he is actually below, you know, he is above character actor, actor, Fred Merritt McMurry, which he would have very much been happy with, but his crypt is beautiful, it's white marvel, gold-righten has a sacred heart in the middle of it that has his birth date and his death date on either side of it, and it's just so classy, so tasteful, I actually went, because I was Saturday, I was feeling very sorry for myself, and I decided to watch a whole load of Hollywood graveyard videos to make myself feel better, and I purposely went out and looked for the one with John Candy in it, and it's beautiful, isn't it, it's so tasteful, uh-huh, he got even some, he got his star in Canada, in the Canada Hall of Fame, which is, another classy, it's not the gold-gourdy star that you get in Los Angeles, it's quite a classy one, there's a lot of um, dedications take place after John's death, and Blues Brothers 2000 is dedicated to John, and the band Ween dedicated, noted a song called um, Chocolate and Cheese, which was released in 2018, which is a dedication to John Candy, and when the lead singer was asked why, you know, like well you all remember Kirk of Bane and you all bring songs out about him, well John Candy went something to me, it was in my heart, and I loved him, and I wanted to bring a song out for him, so yeah John Candy and Kirk of Bane died on the same year, and I've seen that live, I've seen Ween.
But there's um, Conan O'Brien mentions in the documentary about how Candy give him his kind of helpful advice in order to get him to move into comedy, when he asked, he said, I want to get into comedy, I think I might try comedy, and John Candy said you don't do comedy, you do it, or you don't do it. Right, I think that's a nice one. A nice one I would say, this is how I fix it, I'm going to end with what we're going to say, I like John, I think that's a nice one. I think that's lovely, and if you do want to go watch the documentary, it is on prime, and it was directed by Colin Hangus and produced by Brilliant Reynolds.
So what is happening tomorrow, Sammy? Oh, tomorrow, once this is back after a little one week break for me in from the howling, I thoroughly enjoy doing this, so that will be available tomorrow from 10 o'clock, or on the internet, not your channel, that episode and this episode will be available for your listening pleasure, later on that day. If Lee senses the files, I don't know why, I just, I guess I'm guessing he and Willie, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know at this point. Sarah, what happened yesterday?
One episode about pageants went out where we spoke to the lovely cat from the Facebook group and the Discord, who was very heavily involved in one in particular, and we learned a lot because this obviously moved forward from the traditional physical game. Yeah, they've gone forward, and they're more inclusive these days, but take a count of your personality and what talents you've gotten, charity fundraise and things like that. It's on my watch list for tomorrow. It was really good, I watched it in cats like a proper, she's an amazing ambassador for watching, because I knew a note about it before I went in, because I thought it was good.
You knew the words, and then you just go, uh, the pageants you think, have you seen away from that? But then, yeah, it was good. No, honestly, ever since I don't know if he saw last week, the other week before, the Miss World debacle. We speak briefly about that.
Wow, that is women fighting with women, that was fantastic. Yeah, we do wear touch on that during the episode. Oh, brilliant. I'm going to watch tomorrow.
Chris, what are you up to this week? Well, this is your moment. Oh, yeah. Great.
Tuesday on top, we've got a little film called Bill and Tense Excellent Adventure, and then on Friday, we'll start off at seven o'clock with Storcha, where we'll be talking about one piece, and then after that, we'll have Leon again, so it's mainly in Phibs, with a little anime called Gachia Kuta, which I'll quickly have a look up while you talk, so I'll go out and go first. Oh, that's how it's done, Chris. That's how you promote your shit, pull it on. Thanks.
Don't be too careful. Um, also, on Saturday at Countdown to Doomsday is back with Shen Chi, we continue our countdown. Obviously, yeah, obviously, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Cheers, I sure. Yeah, the one with the rings. Yeah, yeah, that's not the favourite one. Wow, okay.
With the little monster things at the end, the pickings. The pickings. The dragons. Yeah.
I forgot about Morris. I'm getting to watch this. And I'm going to film it. I've got a speech for our next episode next Sunday.
Oh. So I want to go on and be watching. So all you motherfuckers are going to appear. You are the ones who are the bollocks.
You're going to fuck your mothers while you're watching, and you're going to cry like, whiny little bitches. Once we get to Hollywood and find those Merrick Mac's fucks, who is going to make this movie? We're going to make them eat our shit, then shit out our shit, then eat their shit and make that's made up of our shit, that would make them eat. And then all your motherfuckers are next, love.
Yes. We're going back to Kevin Smith world. We haven't been there since... Who looks three?
Yes. No, don't we? Do we do? Yeah, we're doing don't we?
Do you choose Naomi as well? No, I'm not. I'm just Navy, yeah. No.
I think we've done Kevin Smith stuff as well. We just go stay. But like some things are... No, no.
Some sort of big fan of... Tim's Navy is one of my favorites. It's not one of... You know what?
I love all Kevin Smith. So I just... That one isn't particularly my favorite one. But again, it's been a lot of it.
It's been a lot of it. So if we ever want to do it, that's all it opened out. Tim Smith's one of us. It's no genius, Ellen Bob, like...
But with Lee's response in the chat, I think Lee might want to come on next week. So are you coming on for James and Bob? Let us know, Lee. Yes.
But if you are... Thank you, everyone, who's been in the chat tonight, who's stuck with us all this episode. Thank you so much. And if you want to please remember to like, share and subscribe and hit the notification bell so you never miss an episode.
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