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EPISODE · Apr 2, 2026 · 42 MIN

From Venezuela to New York: How Socialism Actually Takes Hold | Daniel Di Martino

from Quite Frankly with Monica Lewis · host Monica Lewis

Daniel Di Martino was born in Venezuela in 1999, the same month Hugo Chavez came to power. In this episode, he traces exactly how a country with the world's largest oil boom destroyed itself, and why the policy sequence that caused it is playing out in Australia today.Venezuela is the only country ever destroyed by socialism that voted it in democratically. The Soviet Union, China, Cuba, North Korea — none of them chose it at the ballot box. Venezuelans did. And then they couldn't vote their way out. Daniel explains why that distinction matters, and how the process works: it starts not with seizure but with taxation, then regulation, then price controls, then government intervention to fix the shortages those price controls created. His own family's petrol station earned $4,000 a month in the early 2000s. By 2016, after nationalisation, it returned $100.The episode examines the Australian parallels in detail. Australia is the world's largest exporter of natural gas and exports seven times more coal than it consumes domestically, yet collects more tax revenue from beer than from gas. The political pressure to increase resource taxes follows the same script Daniel watched play out in Venezuela. On housing, Australia's combination of high immigration and restricted supply has produced a system where the primary predictor of homeownership is whether your parents own a home, not a person's own effort or ability. Rent control, he argues, has never worked in any country in any era - the Roman Empire tried price controls on bread and got shortages - and the evidence from Austin, Texas, which went the other direction, shows average rents now below pre-COVID levels in real terms.The conversation also covers the cost of homelessness spending that makes homelessness worse, why the net zero transition requires clearing land 1.5 times the size of Tasmania, and what democratic socialism looks like in Western cities before it announces itself - including DSA members who actively support the Maduro regime today.Daniel Di Martino: https://www.danieldimartino.com/X: https://x.com/DanielDiMartinoManhattan Institute: https://manhattan.instituteFollow Quite Frankly with Monica Lewis:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/quitefranklymediaX: https://x.com/quitefranklyauFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/quitefranklymedia

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