From VW Restorations to Bespoke Joinery with Russell Birt

In this episode of Yours for the Making, Robin Johnson sits down with Russell Birt from Birt Williams Bespoke Joinery in Eastbourne. Russell shares his journey from restoring a 1974 Volkswagen camper to running a thriving joinery business. He opens up about taking over a workshop at 31, surviving accidents and setbacks, and building a partnership that balances traditional hand skills with modern CNC technology. The conversation covers conservation joinery, the challenges of pricing and time management, the value of apprentices, and why quality always wins over speed. Packed with insight for makers, joiners, woodworkers and anyone passionate about craft, this episode explores the realities of keeping traditional skills alive while adapting to the pressures of modern business.Key Topics CoveredRussell’s journey from VW restoration to professional joineryBuying and running a joinery business at 31Balancing traditional craftsmanship with CNC machinesThe importance of conservation joinery in heritage projectsPricing jobs and managing client expectationsRunning a small workshop with a business partnerWork-life balance and flexibility in joineryPassing skills to apprentices and the next generationWhy quality matters more than cutting cornersFuture goals for Burtt Williams Bespoke JoineryEnjoying the show?Leave a review, follow us, and share the episode with a fellow maker. New episodes every week with artists, designers, craftsmen and creators from around the world.Yours for the Making with Robin Johnson is the podcast that celebrates creativity, craftsmanship, and the art of making. Hosted by Robin Johnson — founder of Johnson Bespoke and BBC presenter on The Travelling Auctioneers, The Restorers, Woodland Workshop — this podcast dives into the stories of makers from all walks of life. From woodworkers, metal fabricators, and chefs to artists, designers, and hobbyists, each episode offers real conversations with the people behind the things we love.Whether you're a hands-on creative, aspiring artisan, or simply curious about how things are made, this podcast offers inspiration, insight, and practical wisdom. Expect behind-the-scenes stories, lessons in process and passion, and a celebration of the maker movement in all its forms.Subscribe now and follow Yours for the Making wherever you listen to your favourite podcasts.Key Moments:00:00 – Introduction to Russell Burtt and the joinery community in Eastbourne01:00 – From VW restoration to pursuing joinery02:00 – Buying a workshop at 31 and early challenges05:00 – Business setbacks and recovery with new partnerships09:00 – Adapting to quieter markets and investing in CNC technology13:00 – Balancing tradition with modern machines17:00 – Ownership of projects and importance of the finish20:00 – Campervan interiors and CNC opportunities25:00 – Pricing challenges and managing time effectively33:00 – Balancing office work and workshop life39:00 – The joy of making and rekindling passion43:00 – Passing skills down through apprenticeships46:00 – The future of conservation joinery54:00 – Favourite parts of joinery and the love of timber01:00:00 – Challenges of conservation work and heritage restrictions01:06:00 – Partnerships, flexibility, and running a small workshop01:10:00 – Why quality work builds reputation and wins clients01:11:00 – Advice for young joiners starting out