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EPISODE · May 23, 2025 · 40 MIN

From XP to TCR & Limbo • Kent Beck & Daniel Terhorst-North

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This interview was recorded for GOTO Unscripted.https://gotopia.techRead the full transcription of this interview hereKent Beck - Software Engineer & Creator of Extreme ProgrammingDaniel Terhorst-North - Originator of Behavior Driven Development (BDD) & Principal at Dan North & AssociatesRESOURCESKenthttps://bsky.app/profile/kentbeck.bsky.socialhttps://www.kentbeck.comhttps://github.com/KentBeckhttps://twitter.com/KentBeckhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/kentbeckDanielhttps://bsky.app/profile/tastapod.comhttps://twitter.com/tastapodhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/tastapodhttps://github.com/tastapodhttps://mastodon.social/@tastapodhttp://dannorth.net/blogDESCRIPTIONKent Beck and Daniel Terhorst-North reflect on the evolution of Extreme Programming (XP) and its lasting impact on agile software development. They explore the importance of short feedback loops, iterative learning, and adaptability in different phases of product development, as outlined in Beck’s 3X model (Exploration, Expansion, Extraction).Kent introduces radical techniques like Test && Commit || Revert (TCR) and Limbo, which challenge traditional coding and collaboration practices by emphasizing tiny, safe iterations. The conversation ties in psychological safety, a key factor in high-performing teams, as outlined by Amy C. Edmondson.Kent envisions a future where software development scales in real-time, pushing teams to embrace faster experimentation, responsibility, and continuous learning in a rapidly evolving tech landscape.RECOMMENDED BOOKSKent Beck • Tidy First?Kent Beck & Cynthia Andres • Extreme Programming ExplainedAmy C. Edmondson • The Fearless OrganizationAmy C. Edmondson • Right Kind of WrongJez Humble & David Farley • Continuous DeliveryBlueskyInstagramLinkedInFacebookCHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUSJoin this channel to get early access to videos & other perks:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/joinLooking for a unique learning experience?Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket: gotopia.techSUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL - new videos posted daily!

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This interview was recorded for GOTO Unscripted. https://gotopia.tech Read the full transcription of this interview here Kent Beck - Software Engineer & Creator of Extreme Programming Daniel Terhorst-North - Originator of Behavior Driven Development (BDD) & Principal at Dan North & Associates RESOURCES Kent https://bsky.app/profile/kentbeck.bsky.social https://www.kentbeck.com https://github.com/KentBeck https://twitter.com/KentBeck https://www.linkedin.com/in/kentbeck Daniel ...

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