FULL EPISODE: Pigeon Liver, Quantum Compass - June 10, 2026

What this episode covers

For science news, professor Jesse Rogerson joins us with these top stories: NASA announces its Artemis III astronauts; Scientists were surveyed about aliens and their answers were revealing; A mysterious quantum compass may be hiding inside pigeons' livers; and World's first AI‑designed vaccine tested in humans for the first time. Speaker, consultant, therapist, and coach Komal Bhasin discusses norm shock – a term she coined to describe the uneasy feeling when the shared rules that you thought everyone agree on start to unravel around you. For Conspiracy Corner, political science professor Lee Kuhnle explores what cult conspiracy films reveal about the conspiracies people believe today. (Pre-order Lee's upcoming book Uncover Up: How to Think Clearly in an Age of Conspiracies here.) On Therapy Thursdays on a Wednesday, therapist and social worker Gary Direnfeld reveals how to avoid being held hostage by anxiety. Segments: (00:00) Introduction (01:06) Jesse Rogerson pt. 1 (10:00) Jesse Rogerson pt. 2 (20:00) Komal Bhasin pt. 1 (30:00) Komal Bhasin pt. 2 (39:50) Lee Kuhnle pt. 1 (49:50) Lee Kuhnle pt. 2 (59:50) Gary Direnfeld pt. 1 (1:09:50) Gary Direnfeld pt. 2 (1:19:09) Sign-off Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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