Gaining the trust of a serial killer: Dr. Jeff Smalldon Pt. 2

from I Catch Killers with Gary Jubelin · host News.com.au

How did Charles Manson convince multiple people to murder nine innocent victims? In this episode of I Catch Killers, forensic psychologist Dr Jeff Smalldon recounts his dealings with Manson and the women devoted to him, and reveals how they tried to recruit him. Jeff also reveals what he's learnt about the mindset of murderers, the secret to gaining the trust of a serial killer, and the chilling three word message Ted Bundy sent him.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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