Gary Oldman still owes us, Liz Hurley won’t leave us alone and Kurt Cobain nearly takes us with him

Remember when Gary Oldman gave loaded magazine a legally-binding promise? (we do and we will be calling it in very soon) Meanwhile, Liz Hurley can’t stop flirting with us; and Kurt Cobain’s tragic demise almost stops the launch issue from hitting the shelves.Post loaded launch, there is plenty of love but also immediate hostility from the usual suspects who just didn’t get it. The Guardian branded it part of “yob culture” (although many of their journalists secretly loved the magazine) but the EXPloaded podcast team argue that loaded’s fanzine-like energy, irreverence and honesty were totally overlooked.Tim, Bill and Ben revisit “the difficult second issue”, tight deadlines and huge pressure. Bill picks the Leslie Nielsen cover feature as a highlight while Ben selects “Nirvana’s last picture show” - a controversial photoshoot by Martin Goodacre featuring Kurt Cobain posing with a gun - and remembers interviewing the smacked up singer in New York just before his death. Regular feature “Planet of the Vapes” sees the team critique Gen Z for filming on their phones in public and complain about becoming the victims of “monkey managing” - whatever that is. 00:00 Thatcher Kids Banter00:35 Podcast Intro Setup00:56 Peers React To loaded02:14 Hostility And Word Of Mouth03:33 Press Backlash Lad Culture05:15 Independent Review Debate08:45 Elitism Class Critique09:36 Impact And Fear Of Failure11:06 Media Moments And Celeb Praise13:39 Why It Blew Up Fast15:33 Thatcher Children And DIY Ethos17:12 Planet Of The Vapes 18:51 Phones Rewired Our Brains20:45 Johnny Ive Invents The Rectangle23:14 Quitting Social Media23:44 Social Media Brain Rot24:01 Monkey Messaging Explained24:58 Weaponized Incompetence26:21 Issue Two Cover Story26:44 Why Leslie Nielsen30:09 Nirvana Last Photos34:46 Platinum Rogues Feature38:14 Private Eye And Theft Tales40:13 Sell Me The Cover42:51 Wrap Up And Next Week