EPISODE · Dec 14, 2025 · 1H 1M
George Packer — THE EMERGENCY — with Jeffrey Goldberg
from Politics and Prose Presents · host Politics and Prose
George Packer’s gripping fable of imperial collapse illuminates the crises of our times.George Packer’s bestselling nonfiction work exploring American life has won many prizes, including the National Book Award. With The Emergency, he turns to fiction, bringing us a visionary novel that goes to the nerve center of what it means to live in a time of fracture and upheaval.An empire has collapsed from boredom and loss of faith in itself. In the Emergency that follows, youth rebellions of urban Burghers and rural Yeomen embrace radical new ideas of humanity. Doctor Hugo Rustin, chief surgeon at the Imperial College Hospital, is increasingly estranged from his city and his family—from his wife, Annabelle, who finds fulfillment in their changed community; and especially from his teenage daughter, Selva, who has turned against her father’s values. When an incident at the hospital leads to Rustin’s disgrace, he seeks redemption in a quixotic and dangerous journey into the countryside, with Selva as his companion, just as the conflict between Burghers and Yeomen is reaching a crisis.The Emergency is a novel of ideas and a taut page-turner. It asks what we owe each other across divided generations and classes—what common human bonds remain when a society falls apart. In creating a vividly imagined world, Packer takes us deep into the heart of our troubled moment.George Packer is an award-winning author and staff writer at The Atlantic. His books include The Unwinding: An Inner History of the New America (winner of the National Book Award), The Assassins’ Gate: America in Iraq, and Our Man: Richard Holbrooke and the End of the American Century (winner of the Hitchens Prize and the Los Angeles Times Book Prize for biography). He is also the author of two novels and a play, and the editor of a two-volume edition of the essays of George Orwell.Packer is in conversation with Jeffrey Goldberg, the editor in chief of The Atlantic, and the moderator of Washington Week With The Atlantic on PBS. Goldberg is the 15th person to serve as editor in chief in The Atlantic's 168-year history. Under Goldberg’s leadership, The Atlantic has won the first three Pulitzer Prizes in its history, and set new records for subscriptions. The Atlantic has also won the National Magazine Award for General Excellence, the highest honor bestowed by the magazine industry, for the past three years in a row. Goldberg's most recent book, On Heroism, is an expansion of his explosive reporting about former President Donald Trump’s contempt for and repeated disparagement of military service members—a story he broke four years ago. https://politics-prose.com/book/9780374614720?ic_referral=zpl7cVnwRcHiqPcWmIp_xSLZPwSUN5eDHaJxrS7wmlcwM2qDDhFKCcfUnoVz7D71uiwMhmcYOrQd3uMjQN_vUjuVfhxTit8z5zZSbj3k2JvIGE3pj7yyVzuQIXJUf-D0jzCEt1Q
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George Packer’s gripping fable of imperial collapse illuminates the crises of our times.George Packer’s bestselling nonfiction work exploring American life has won many prizes, including the National Book Award. With The Emergency, he turns to fiction, bringing us a visionary novel that goes to the nerve center of what it means to live in a time of fracture and upheaval.An empire has collapsed from boredom and loss of faith in itself. In the Emergency that follows, youth rebellions of urban Burghers and rural Yeomen embrace radical new ideas of humanity. Doctor Hugo Rustin, chief surgeon at the Imperial College Hospital, is increasingly estranged from his city and his family—from his wife, Annabelle, who finds fulfillment in their changed community; and especially from his teenage daughter, Selva, who has turned against her father’s values. When an incident at the hospital leads to Rustin’s disgrace, he seeks redemption in a quixotic and dangerous journey into the countryside, with Selva as his companion, just as the conflict between Burghers and Yeomen is reaching a crisis.The Emergency is a novel of ideas and a taut page-turner. It asks what we owe each other across divided generations and classes—what common human bonds remain when a society falls apart. In creating a vividly imagined world, Packer takes us deep into the heart of our troubled moment.George Packer is an award-winning author and staff writer at The Atlantic. His books include The Unwinding: An Inner History of the New America (winner of the National Book Award), The Assassins’ Gate: America in Iraq, and Our Man: Richard Holbrooke and the End of the American Century (winner of the Hitchens Prize and the Los Angeles Times Book Prize for biography). He is also the author of two novels and a play, and the editor of a two-volume edition of the essays of George Orwell.Packer is in conversation with Jeffrey Goldberg, the editor in chief of The Atlantic, and the moderator of Washington Week With The Atlantic on PBS. Goldberg is the 15th person to serve as editor in chief in The Atlantic's 168-year history. Under Goldberg’s leadership, The Atlantic has won the first three Pulitzer Prizes in its history, and set new records for subscriptions. The Atlantic has also won the National Magazine Award for General Excellence, the highest honor bestowed by the magazine industry, for the past three years in a row. Goldberg's most recent book, On Heroism, is an expansion of his explosive reporting about former President Donald Trump’s contempt for and repeated disparagement of military service members—a story he broke four years ago. https://politics-prose.com/book/9780374614720?ic_referral=zpl7cVnwRcHiqPcWmIp_xSLZPwSUN5eDHaJxrS7wmlcwM2qDDhFKCcfUnoVz7D71uiwMhmcYOrQd3uMjQN_vUjuVfhxTit8z5zZSbj3k2JvIGE3pj7yyVzuQIXJUf-D0jzCEt1Q
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