Welcome everybody to episode 51 of the Serial Tiller Podcast. I'm your host Jesse. It's good to have you here. Today I've got three in-studio guests who traveled from another town specifically to be on the show.
I'd like to give a big thank you and a big welcome to Travis, Tiffany, and Susanna. Of course. Co-host Greg is across the internet and today we talk about Serial Killer, possible serial confessor, definitely serial confessor, Gerald Stano. We'll get into the story a little bit and we have a lot of fun and the competition is fierce.
Sit back, relax, and enjoy episode 51 of the Serial Chiller Podcast. All right, let's go, man. Welcome everybody to episode 51 of the Serial Chiller's Podcast for the first time from the completed Super Network Studio. You guys are first time for a lot of things.
First time in the completed studio. You guys are the first time we've had three guests in the studio and any studio and you guys are the farthest traveled specifically for the show of all time. Yeah, you guys are just trailblazing here. So let's hope you can keep up the pace.
Tough act to follow. Yes. So I'll introduce my in-studio guests since we're talking about it to my left. Tiffany, hello.
Hi. Welcome. It's great to have you here. Straight across from me is Travis.
How's it going? You guys know him from the Sweet Fucking artwork he did for the show with my dumb stupid face. Yeah, thank you. Absolutely, it's a wonderful piece of art.
And to my right, Susanna, welcome. Oh, hey, hi. Hey, all right, everybody. Three guests joining us in the studio across the internet from his bunker far, far away.
Who knows where it is. How goes at co-host Greg? Uh, killing shit. Kid.
You. Respect. Respect. You guys know how the show works, but let me explain it for anyone that doesn't.
Each week I sit down with old friends, new friends, good friends, and bad friends to tell the story of an infamous serial killer. Throughout the show, you guys can chime in on my story. And if you brought a story of your own, that is true crime, dark, creepy, unsolved, or otherwise mysterious, please feel free to share it. I hear Greg may have something.
May. Lastly, if you have questions about questions, make sure to ask questions because I can't answer questions about questions if you never ask questions. Are there any questions? Got no questions?
No. Two and let's play the serial chiller's podcast. All right. Today's serial killer, Gerald Stan-O.
Shut up. You do not know, Dan. Oh, this is a good one. You do not.
She is. All right. So immediately Tiffany worried about Susanna's poker face across the table. We're going to see what happens because if you listen to the show, you know question number one in what year was Gerald Stan-O born?
Do you want to think what kind of name Gerald is and like what? That's an old name for sure. I know Gerald from Hey Arnold. I mean, he's like what?
Yeah. He was also the comedian Gerald Seinfeld. Yes. I have a question.
Yes. What year was Gerald Ford? Gerald Ford wasn't he president after Nixon or was that Carter? I would say I'm the one to ask the questions around here.
I think Gerald Ford was president in 74. I think. Hold on. I got an arbitrary guess.
I bet it's closer than you think. I'm waiting for a Google answer. We're going to give you the Google answer after you give us your answer. 1975.
1975. 1973. 1953. Travis says 1953 and almost scores a thousand bonus points because Gerald Stan-O was born September 12th 1951.
First to strike. Travis is 250 points. I knew Gerald was old. I knew Gerald Ford was president from August 1974 to January 20th 1977.
So I did say 1974. Don't forget to put some respect on my name. I won't do that. I won't do that but I'll give you a respectfully answer.
Thank you. Appreciate it. Back to your producer Greg days. Thank you so much.
So September 12th 1951, Gerald Stan-O was born in Skeneck, New York. Thank you for giving me the one upstate New York city that I can print mounts. Thank you. But he was born as Paul Zinegger.
His mother had four children before him. All of whom she gave up for adoption. But she kept him. After him she had another child, a girl who had brain damage.
This was about a year later. And she kept the girl and then gave the one-year old Gerald Stan-O away. Paul Zinegger. What?
Why? His is a serial killer. That's like half of these stories. It only gets worse.
The one I always use is Eileen Wernos. I felt like she had one of the worst family bringing may have caused it kind of situations. And you genuinely at some points go like, ahhh. No, there was another one.
He got his eyeball knocked out so he had his last eye from being as a young kid. Oh, sent him to the house. Yes, his story was really, really bad. His dad had no legs and he scurried around.
He was like an alcoholic and then he and his mom was a prostitute He used to make him watch and used to beat him till he fell asleep and all kinds of shit I remember when my mom used to beat me to sleep Okay, so 13 months old he's been put into the system He was assessed by a team of psychologists physicians and social workers and they deemed him not fit for adoption at this time Due to such severe neglect by his mother in only the one you were living he was functioning at an animalistic level They said he would crawl he would only crawl he would only grunt That's almost essentially what it was and he said they said the only thing that they believed he was ever able to play with was his own feces because that's even though they provided employees and things like Just one year old had one year old that's all he would yeah, that's yeah So I mean I'm not gonna feel bad from later on. No, you're not you're not but at 19 months It's now 1953 he's adopted by Eugene and Norma Stano. His name has changed from Paul Zainoger to Gerald Eugene Stano Normal was a social worker and Eugene was a manager for a large corporation So he lives a fairly normal young childhood once he is taken in by His adoptive parents they obviously had an uphill battle ahead of them when they brought him in It was a very extensive because it's only six months between the time they say like he is not Adoptable this is not going to work and they come and adopt him. So they know what they were getting themselves Yeah, absolutely They I think they I think that was kind of the deciding factor for them was because they had six months of work with doctors And you know that he was definitely not at least on an animalistic level anymore when they adopted him But he was not a on the normal curve of a 19 month old's development by any means So Eugene and Norma.
Yeah kind of heroes in a way So one of the things that we see in serial killers too is is the bed wedding question number two until what age would Gerald wet the bed? What do we got Tiffany says nine Travis that's 13 and 11 Let's see so Tiffany answers and I got both good points on this because he the bed until he was 10 We're gonna split the difference there Crisis writing it. No, we're gonna go to 50 for both you guys you guys scored You guys scored the real deal is it still more points when you stab versus multiple choice or is that when there are is multiple choice And it is stabble most of the questions I've been writing lately like if someone were to stab it I'll give you one million points because it's like they're usually pretty bizarre But if an opportunity comes you will definitely be given and in most of these like when it's a number or something I will for that one I have that I would do 500 for nailing it So someone would guess and you got 500 someone guesses the birth year it was a thousand So for nailing some of the answers that you just have to guess on there are definitely some bonus points involved But as a right now three way tie at 250 points have 10 questions today you guys so there are There are eight more but some of them come really fast. So be ready He went to the bed until he's 10 years old during his adolescence It was reported that he had trouble relating to kids his age and typically stayed to himself pretty clear Why that was the case I feel like sometimes you like why went you know It was like he was raised by wolves he plays with his food Realistic I hope he's still not doing it either.
Yeah, so your question. No, sometimes 10 year olds play with each other's poop So he's obviously at this time saying to himself. He's a very lonely loner a young man He was also a target for bullies and apparently there was a group of mean girls at his school They're kind of beat down on him pretty hard But you they were fucking poodle dresses and had their hair up and punk stupid nums He was he was obviously as the loner weird kid who potentially plays with poop We heard about what you did at 13 months Yeah, yeah, he had a hard time school. He was the target of a lot of I Never really I think it was a lot of verbal.
He doesn't I didn't see a lot of he got his ass kicked and he got swirly's and he had to go home Believing but it was a lot of a made fun on a lot. Yeah, I think in the 50s Somebody who was developmentally disabled may have been called the R were pretty hard And I think that that was getting thrown at him quite a bit even though technically He was he was his intelligence level wasn't actually low his but his Analystic instincts were they said he had good problem solving skills even though he played with him Yeah, so yeah, he's he's a target to the bully in 1965 to 66 we're moving on he's 14 to 15 years old and we had question number three What would Gerald's first arrest before at the age of 14? This one won't be won't be stab a wolf I'm gonna give you four options. Okay choose two Therefore 250 points each so if you get to this is potential 500 if you miss both potential zero So you have to pick two you got a pick two there will be four so question number three What was Gerald's first arrest for it'll be at the age of 14 was it arson of a church throwing rocks from a bridge into traffic?
Pulling a fire alarm or hurting a small animal So a arson be throwing rocks see pulling the fire alarm D hurting small animals Let me know if you need me to I have a follow-up because I might have zoned out Did he do both of these things or are we just taking? He's going to he's going to have done two of these four things correct Yeah, and this is his first thing he's gonna be arrested for he I mean he could have been fucking around before Right, but then both in the same incident So no, but he's he was arrested during one, but they knew he was responsible for another so he's gonna be charged with both at the same time What was the third choice again? Nope. It was a pulling a false fire alarm who hasn't done that?
Yeah, I just was the extinguisher in the seventh grade I thought the pin was in it and somebody had pulled a pin I was able to successfully be like oh it wasn't him I didn't do it For you at another time perfect. Yes, perfect. All right. You guys got answers for me Sorry take your time.
If you need Greg Greg will be mad because he's gonna have to edit it I mean there's a lot of things to think about here. Okay. Okay. I'm just I just did you take both my answers?
Probably maybe but then you both get points Guys got some answers. Yes. Yes. All right.
What do we got? We'll start on the left if he says Rocks rock throwing. I just wrote rocks in my shorthand and then the hurting of the animals. Okay rocks and animals Ross I also went rocks and I feel like all serial killers hurt animals.
So I figured that was a good guess rocks and animals as well Okay, uh, I feel like animals was the obvious answer and I'm hoping that my decision is right I went with arson and rocks arson and rocks rocks is very popular answer You guys feel like that's a Gerald's stand-o type thing and you're all gonna get 250 points for that however He doesn't seem to be much more evolved than than hucking rocks at things exactly. How about hucking rocks and False fire alarms. Okay. I didn't choose fire alarms because I thought if he actually started the fire, it wouldn't be false See so I think I should get I here's the thing is I just know that I'm not thinking that I'm not thinking that I don't have any of these questions ever ever And Greg you are right.
We did not start the fire But you guys all did take down 250 points of that. No one took a lead But at the end your score will look nice because we'll have an extra 250 on there if nothing else we got 500 across the board I hope it's a three-way tie and there's an artistic challenge at the end of the city. Yes, so he was seeing fleeing the area where Uh, he falsely sounded a fire alarm and then later that day they caught him on a bridge throwing rocks at cars It's a highway bridge. So imagine traveling down the 99 and somebody's Shucking rocks off the side.
I have thought about that actually so he uh, he's an asshole He had a little day where he thought he's gonna pull a fire alarm. So some fucking rocks off a bridge to my knowledge He didn't hit any cars. He must have had a bad aim. Uh, maybe he had some poop on his hands He's doing your hands for sure.
It's a delivery of rocks Is his nickname the do-do hand killer? I know there's no nickname question, but that would have been one of the fake answers If it had been for sure, but do-do hand killer. It's not chocolate. It's do-do, maybe?
Um, so he is arrested for the fire alarm for throwing the rocks cars in 1966. He's now 15 He enrolled he's enrolled in a military school by his parents to try to quote fix his problems This school was a notoriously tough one. One of the ones where you know the drill sergeant's reel in your face and it's you know, it's 1966 I still imagine like drill sergeant's were like whappin him across the back of the legs with their leather whip, you know, it's a it's a different situation Do you think boot campings? Yeah, you know what I'm talking about cotton cotton hill use one on Bobby Oh, the riding crop?
That's just cotton hill with a dick. Yeah, well, that's what I'm saying But cotton hill was uh was probably uh riding high around 1966. I think it's real sitting in I think of major pain That's not only drill sergeant. I think of actually uh, Arlie Ermy, Rest in Peace from uh Full Metal Joe.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah That's what the first scene that to my understanding is like the idea behind this school Like it was the toughest on the worst kind of shitheads. So like if I can break them and they can go back and be slightly Decent profitable members of society at some point. Well a government program trying to break people No way shut the front door I thought I said you're mike is gonna be on mute.
I'm not They tried to break him and unfortunately they were not able to it failed and while he was in military school He started stealing money from his fellow peers and on his occasional trips home would steal from his family and friends Um, he goes home late in 1966 and in early 1967 his family moved to norris town, Pennsylvania Very early when he arrives in norris town. He starts skipping school and stealing money from family and students alike Um, he sounds just like a real asshole and what's funny is every time there's like some type of move I'm just gonna go ahead and repeat that line. You're gonna hear a lot He just everybody he meets he steals from and like it sounds like very obvious stealing like he's not sneaky about like where did my money go? It's like was general just fucking here and there was a goddamn 20 sitting on the table and now he's gone like All right cool.
Good. Yeah, goddamn it He did shit to me last week like that's the kind of guy that Gerald stano is becoming in every place that he arrives Um in 1968 he continues to think money from friends family at one point. Uh, he's feeling like really down And he wanted to be a runner, but he was not a runner. He the uh physical activities could not uh, they didn't come to him naturally Let's say you can't run and play with poop at the same time so It's been tested He like goes out and asks the track team like hey, I want to challenge you guys to erase So they're like idea.
All right, so Team that's almost exactly what he did, but he offered them all some undisclosed amount of cash to lose to him Now there's no audience for this race. There's no You know, there was no prize to be one. He just really wanted to run a race that he could win So he paid everybody to run behind him. I already feel sorry for him.
Yeah, it's um arrest this guy for that That is a very awful idea This is this is Gerald stano and nutshell. He's gonna be very Random thing to want to do though. He wanted to win. I think he just needed a victory All these had his losses Do you think the others knew about it or do you think he was like, hey, just keep this between you and me?
But i'm gonna give you you know 10 bucks to just just coming behind me So he beats everybody and they're like damn he actually beat everybody But I let him win and do you think that in turn caused a rift in the track team Which is why they didn't go to state because they had no chemistry anymore because Because Gerald got in there and broke the team apart. Maybe he was working for the other school. Who knows? Yeah, no, I didn't think that I was watching for sure wasn't I just the plot of swim fan?
Oh my god He paid the track team to lose even though he knows that they they ran behind him It still gives him this huge confidence boost that he just couldn't get anywhere else By the way, the money that he paid them stole directly from his father So yeah, uh through high school. He's going to habitually fail all of his classes since he'll habitually fails most of his classes, which brings us to question number four At what age will Gerald receive his high school diploma? Is it a true high school diploma or ged? He stayed in school.
They allowed him to say in school. Yeah, so this is back in the day So it wasn't like you got held back three times. You're graduating at 21 Well, there's rules so the current rules didn't the current rules don't apply to this these old timey times We all have it some sort of experience in the education system. Yeah My school once you're 18 you're out.
Oh mine's different So Okay, uh, sorry, that's why we Have my school once I was 18. I was out. Yeah, I wasn't a school rule. That was just the age where you can sign yourself out and you I can't let's have full advantage of that.
Yeah, I got things to do today. I'm ready. All right. We're starting the right this time I went with 22.
Wow. I went with 19 19 21 Travis you should have gone with your example because it was 21 And you will be receiving 500 points or getting it on the nose So tiffany hits it at 21 getting 500 This man was in high school until he was 21 Is your 22 if you have a Have an individualized education plan not in 1970 What category was he play center? Okay, so tiffany has 1000 points Travis and Suzanne at 500 apiece We have so many questions to go guys. Don't even worry about it.
What do you have left? Uh, six. Okay, six We are through four of ten. So yes in 1973 at 21 he received his high school diploma Soon after he enrolls himself into a computer school and during this time he moves into a hotel Two years later he graduates from the computer school and starts working at a local hospital He has fired shortly after being hired for stealing money from coworkers Surprise, surprise.
You're like, whoa, he's had a fucking turnaround. He went to trade school. Okay. He's like, oh, I dropped at a hospital Like that could potentially be lucrative and you know a good retirement involved in that Oh, he's stealing his fucking coworkers and the wallets out of their locker.
Yeah, so Kirtle stanow everybody welcome welcome. Um, yeah, he's not a very good person So, uh, he loses his job. He stops getting the side gig, which is stealing money from his co-workers So at this point he has to move back in with his parents. Um, he's still working, but he's moving from job to job Why?
Uh, he's been stealing from co-workers. Uh, he's tardy and sometimes just doesn't show up at all Uh, in the mid 1970s he moves to new jersey and medic girl. Uh, she was developmentally disabled Question number five. What was one of the first things he did with this young woman?
A, propose to her. B, run away with her. C, get her pregnant or D, get her drunk So she is I believe 17th time. He is 22 I thought the answers were gonna be way worse.
I was fully prepared to be like, all right, so The details aren't really gross details aren't really my uh, thing. We're starting a website for that though. Um, Yeah, uh, you guys all got answers? I have an answer.
All right. What do we go? Can you repeat the question again? Does he a propose to her be run away with her?
C, get her pregnant or D, get her drunk All right, what do we got? I'm run away with her. It says Tiffany Travis says gets her pregnant. I'm gonna run away.
Run away. Run away a popular answer. Unfortunately, it will not score any points today He did get her pregnant. How do we know that's the first thing he did?
Uh, the question was what was one of the first things he did with this young woman? One of the one of the and he did it Well, I already forget the answer. What was it? She got her pregnant.
He got her pregnant. This is the only male contestant Yes, so uh, uh, he He started dating this young woman and within just a few weeks got her pregnant Uh, immediately after the father came after Gerald stan with a gun and demanded that she'll pay for an abortion Oh, where abortion's legal? I I he may have known some back alleyway if they weren't but this is gonna be 1974ish in Florida if you'd like to take a look. Oh, well So, um, oh sorry, New Jersey He will go to Florida.
He handled some business in Florida So uh, he agrees to pay for the abortion. Um, after this he started heavily drinking And using drugs this would become a common theme throughout his life. Um, excuse me He agreed to the abortion I think losing the child made him a lot more sad than he thought it was going like I think he wanted to be a Maybe a little bit. Yeah, he wanted a little a little Gerald Which he would play with poop.
Yeah, maybe he wanted a little poop player Grows up and talks. Yeah. Um, yeah, so he It really Pooped junior that's good. That's good.
He was at the beginning Um, he He kind of goes into a spiral. He's drinking constantly Uh, because of the abortion that's that's what it seems like. Here's the thing about Gerald Stan. Oh, is if you go home and you google him There's really not a lot.
You have like a small Wikipedia entry and there's a few off Articles that you can find about him. I think there was one podcast that was like a like a fictional audio play using like Non-fictional events and people uh, and there's no documentaries There's no and I don't do that as a challenge I do that because sometimes you know, we scrape the bottom of the barrel just to see what we can find and and his story is incredibly interesting There's not a lot about him. So when I say oh, he started heavily drinking and doing drugs Normally, I can say you know, he was a hero and abuser or you know, he started doing cocaine every day I can just tell you that he started heavily drinking and doing drugs. I don't know which drugs I would never call pot trucks.
What year um, what year did the abortion happen? The abortion would have been in uh, I believe 1972 So it was ro v. Wade was 1973 So it was a back alley How about that So I probably probably messed him up and he uh Very that's what I mean, I would explain the alcohol and the drug use and if it's the 70s That's also I mean, it's around the time of the Manson clan. Am I right?
Yes, you are So he was probably on that whole groovy train not necessarily with the Manson family band but You know, maybe same a similar mindset seem to be pretty readily available at this time I was gonna say I hope that when he started drinking and doing drugs and it was LSD Those little pieces of paper floating around in my beer were yeah So um, yeah, he's ms is about pretty bad. He goes into it down downhill real fast Um later his parents wanted him to move to Ormond Beach, Florida so that they could take care of his grandmother So he agrees thinking that he may be able to get some son the beach I mean, you still wish my mind up. No, I don't think he was ever really with this girl I think in his mind he had sex with her a few times like this my girlfriend. I love her, you know, like She oh we were pregnant now and the dad was like You said about bich give us $500 another doctor that'll you know, however, it went down So they did have the abortion.
They did have the abortion sounds very much like dirty dancing I yeah, it's not does not sound very far off. Not that you mentioned it Damn she found me out. Um, so once he gets to florida shit starts to get wild By the time it is said and done Question number six by the way by the time it is said and done People admit to how many murders general said and done the final or right now when he's in florida when it's when it's all said and done when Uh by the time, uh, we end our story here today. How many will general stanow have admitted to so when he's caught from basically This is one of the thousand point snaps too.
So we happen to get this one on the nose. It's gonna be for a g-bar I went really big. I'm changing my answer Does the um I like that you have a follow-up question It helps you hear that student in class. It helps expand the show a little bit Everybody got answers.
Yes. Let's go try this first this time. Uh, I also went big. I'm saying 27 27 from Travis I like that Travis thinks 27 is big.
That's big. That's a lot of people. I went 57 57 very high Tiffany I went lower only because I feel like any higher and we would definitely know who this person is yeah But I don't know 12 well, I will tell you that Susanna's gonna get the points Because by the time it's said and done show it's done. I was going to admitted to 41 murder 99 or actually Travis was closer what ah my bad math he was 14 off right 27 That's not there you already said I got yeah, I know but like he technically actually got them I just really bad at math.
Wait hold on how many was it 41 41 and what did you say? So you're 16 off and 14 off Would you do? Don't know who you're messing with Travis. I'm gonna win this game.
So it doesn't matter. Oh, I'll split But it sounds like you're gonna make a deal with the devil That's cool. Where are we at? A lot of that going on.
Okay. So the 125 is a you know, that'll make it interesting So we've got a thousand if you hit it on the hit it on the nose. Yeah, so we've got uh 625 for Susanna eight 75 for Travis and 1000 for Tiffany. Wait, how am I so behind?
You haven't got as many right Okay, let me just write these out Plenty of game left guys that was a Question number six and we got four left and we're all pretty everybody still has a chance Nobody is mathematically out of it yet. All right, so we'll take a little break right here We'll come back and we'll finish up the story of certified fuckface Gerald Stano come back or I'll kill you Welcome back everybody. We're gonna get right back into it. Remember.
He's now in Florida Yeah, no, no Florida. We don't have to really talk about it much. It's Florida So we decided that shit was gonna get wild in Florida. Uh, Travis announced flow right up flow right up My apologies to the great state.
We had some glitter points because of uh, we'll call it dealer error and uh, we're moving on from that Uh, Gerald is admitted to he's going to admit to 41 murders by the time it's said i if i'm not mistaken I'm going to list all 41 murders that he admitted to It's gonna be a little dry, but here's the deal. I don't go into details because i like the details all that much i like Put them out there like to describe them. I'm just gonna let you know about when people died and mostly how they died when that was discernible So on march 21st 1973, this was just three weeks after he arrived in florida Janine legatino who is 19 and arsono who is 17 were stabbed to death in gainsville, florida So that's two i'm marking this down wait, are you gonna write all the 41? I don't know if I got all 41.
I believe I may have Okay. All right. I like your guys is moxie September 6 1973 barbara anbauer was strangled to death in new samirna beach florida 1974 at some point Kathy lee scarf is 17 she strangled to death in brevard county florida He is continuing his alcohol drug abuse. He's job hopping at this time He's usually fired from his jobs for tardiness theft or not showing up at all patterns.
They're here you guys slightly they're here uh, let's see late 1974 barbara anbauer and an unidentified woman are found dead in 1975 he's going to stop using drugs and drinking So this is the tail end of 1975. I want to say that it was december. He just cold turkeys it That's what he's this is what he's claimed to do question number seven. He's a good dude How long will he stay off drugs and alcohol?
Oh So on this you may stab But you know time is there's a lot of it. There's a lot of different times it could be because tab for 500 points I do have four multiple choice options when anybody likes tab The multiple choices 250 250 you'll double up if you are able to just guess it I think we should go with multiple choice. Everybody's multiple choice in this bad boy. I'm gonna be mad if I stabbed it I'm gonna multiple choice it.
Well, we all have to agree right? Yeah. Oh, no. No.
No, no, yeah, yeah, because then I would just write down Two against one. I'm just thinking about it. I'll just go multiple choice. All right.
We're going multiple choice was it a six months b 12 months see 24 months or d forever This is a tough one Maybe he was sober a sober murderer. He might have been and he was kind of like a lame murderer during his drunk days That's only six murders. Yeah, I feel like I would if I could anyone if I couldn't drink I would murder way more people Right now the counts of zero Do you want to keep numbers you gotta get those numbers up? All right, does anybody have an answer?
All right, jimmy says six months. I I'm gonna say forever Travis says forever From Susanna on question number seven Nobody's getting Because he is a good dude, but not peckin dude. He's gonna stay after alcohol for right about 12 months I'm surprised though. Yeah, well immediately said though.
This is real Now I believe this is the case he was trying to get in good with 22 year old hairstylist to recess Is it? Oh, I don't think she was too keen on the drugs and alcohol So I think he was like all right, I'm gonna stop and then like I'll get her love me and then like I'll slowly lean back into the booze and alcohol Change myself for now for now. She'll get used to it. I'll figure it out So he his plan works if that was the case because he does start dating 22 year old hairstylist to recess Aspacito January 3rd 1975 Nancy jean heard is strangled to death in port orange, florida On may 15th 1975 Diana Lynn valick is 18 and she is shot to death in Tampa, florida June 10th 1975 Susan basil is 12 and is strangled to death with port orange On june 21st just 11 days after the 12 year old murder He is married to Teresa aspacino just five months after they begin dating July 22nd 1975 Linda Hamilton is found drowned Jeez December 17th 1975 Emily branch 21 she is found dead also drowned December 20th Susan big rest is 24 is strangled to death in volusia county, florida Who he has now then I'm looking up to list here.
You're uh, throwing a on the end of this and you're starting to get a little freaked out, right? December of 75 he begins drinking heavily again and at this time physically abusing his wife So if he weren't enough of a fuckface in his off time murdering You know because because some of these guys have like a fairly normal life and you know, they're not beating the shit out of their wife and they're Home they're getting it out Yeah, Gerald Gerald's a go-hard He's beating his wife and Killing people he's not getting enough, you know At this point he's feeling so powerful over every type of female. I mean 75 was a big year I was thinking he had seasonal effect of disorder, but now that he's in florida No, he's just a fucking asshole. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah and remember these are murders that he admitted to That doesn't necessarily mean that he committed that he could have committed to and said that he did And we'll talk about that a little later actually. Okay, so it's the kind of guy that pays people to lose Racist like I'll give you this $20 bill if you disappear and say I'm murdered I'll give you $16 if you lose to me in a hundred meters. Come on on November 11, 1977. Oh, sorry.
No miss this one September 28. That's a really good deal. Um losing a hundred meters and baking a murder for within four dollars of each other That's just a smoking deal. I just take both Both for less than 40.
Come on. Yeah So September 28, 1977 Joan gale fosters 18. She shot to death in Pasco county, florida November 11, 77 Mary Kathleen moldoon is 23. She has found shot to death in Daytona beach, florida August 5th 1978 sander du boz is shot to death in brevard county Also in later in 1978 You guys ready for this not a lot of details on these so we're just gonna give you the rest of 1978 post august Bonnie hues Emily branch christina goodson phoebe winston jones foster And that's it.
Yep. So it's an additional Those ones were found so decomposed because of death was not able to be Disarmed 75 and 78 were both big years six each I'm not here telling you more. Yeah, this is too much years. I just know I'm telling how he is killing them Oh, we're just getting all of the status Seriously Health the same guy who gave them a back alley abortion.
He's like Deodorate deals in all things fucking shady you need abortions and guns. I have to do both gotcha. Just ask your God. I want get one for you So going great for most stuff.
Yeah, it's a it's real rough real rough So, um, you know what I have a details on phoebe phoebe winston was shot. Sorry. I put some notes on the sign after five So phoebe winston was shot christina goodson. No, I just have was killed but it was in pinnellis county Um in simber 11th dorothy williams was found stabbed to death tony van haddicks went missing on february 16th 1980 February 17th mary carol mar was found stabbed at the detona airport I can't imagine the detona they detona airport ever has like a downtime that seems like an airport That's probably yeah pretty rolling like a lot of the time.
Yeah, a lot of people in and out of that one. Yeah Yeah, it seems like a weird place to find a stab victim, but that's just me What about no one's summit a stab. Yeah, yeah, who the fuck am I? So no, he stabbed him somewhere else and then just dump a body there like with the check luggage.
So is he only killing woman? Uh, so far. Yes, that is the case No So on March 25th 1980 Donna hinsley identifies stanos having stabbed her a report is made at atonavitch police department So she is the one that goes missing and gets away. He does a little stab on her.
She's gets away and is able to uh To identify identify him good for her um question number eight what Car was the latest victim said to have been picked up in can you remind me? This is going to be 1980 So i'm just gonna give you guys a multiple choice on this one. Is it going to be the ford cantina the amc gremlin the poniac fiero Or the volx wagen beetle Damn, I was really hoping the pinto would be in there. I was thinking pinto.
I should have replaced the cortina with pinto Yep, I I assumed pinto before the multiple choice. Can you repeat them again? Yeah, it's worse than the four uh pinto amc gremlin the aponiac the arrow and the volx wagen beetle See not pinto's in there. So it could be pinto Isn't it though?
Are you don't think Greg and I script stuff? I don't know. I've got a copy of the outline. I wasn't born yet I don't even know what cars existed.
Um, um, can I go first? Yes, of course. I'm gonna say gremlin Travis says amc gremlin. I want to have a digo neck Tiffany says the poniac fiero Oh a poniac is a fiero.
Yes. Oh, well, I said gremlin gremlin as well. So Travis and Susanna are both scoring two No eight the points on this one. I feel like only serial killers drive gremlins I don't even know what i'm gonna do.
You've never seen a gremlin? I've seen the movie and that is what i'm doing. I work this is a I've been trying to talk right now. I uh, I worked at an auto shop and I threw a padlock one time into the air just randomly I was like, I'm with those fucking padlock, right?
It's a good choice. Yeah, it was a great choice. I don't know why I did it Fun. Yeah, and it smashed into an amc gremlin in the windshield.
So as soon as I heard amc gremlin Did the answer happened It was like broken down. It's been there for like 30 years It was like that was like a part a point in your life where you were like, why did this happen to me? I was gonna know it was all it all pollinated So I could get points on the serial killer podcast gremlin is what they were driving when they were singing bohemian rhapsody. Yes So with that Travis will take the lead Oh, no, he's only up by like 50 right so Travis is a 125 point lead It's 1125 Travis and he was 1,000 and Susanna close and still very much in it with 875 points Okay, so uh She was known to have been picked up by a guy in a red gremlin He cut her thigh in a hotel room when she insisted that she pay up front for sex she received 27 stitches after cutting her He berated her for having Being a sex worker.
So uh, he picked her up couldn't afford to pay up front because he wasn't gonna make him come on So he cut her and gave her shit about her profession. So at least he's talking now. I guess we can confirm Great person. Yeah, uh, seems like the original nice guy like hey, baby You know how about you just get with a guy like me and they're like no, he's like fuck you I like you anyway, so uh, she's able to identify him after the thigh cut Uh later that day in officer spots the aim see gremlin near the crime scene He runs the tags and it came back as Gerald stano the registered owner Uh Gerald stano as we know had quite the rap sheet already and was a prime suspect and several assaults on sex workers and was positively ID by the victim April 1st 1980 please bring stano in for questioning relating to an attack on a sex worker during this interrogation stano confessed to assaulting sex worker Later during the same interrogation he confessed to the murder of mary carol mar so He brought in on us on assault char they were bringing me to talk about his offers like murdered mary.
Yeah, that's that's kind of dummy Yeah, what a silly People like does I guess maybe maybe so Um, he killed mar because she rejected his sexual advances Greg. I think he might be totally right original nice guy I'm saying did a guy did with was he known for his fedora? I can't confirm it nor do I have a picture of him in a fedora, but that doesn't mean I won't uh either one search very hard Find one where he is or to photoshop a photo of one with where he's it's sort of like rule 34 without the porn Yes, just with fedoras instead right What's rule 34? That there's if you think about something on the internet there's porn of it and rule 35 is if uh, you can't find the porn Then it's you're obligated to make it yeah Oh god, why did you?
Oh, no Had some ideas So, um, yeah, he has bring in he brought in for the questioning relating to the attack on a sex worker He admits to the murder of mary carol mar he stabbed mar because of course she was just rejected his sexual advances He's the original nice guy as Greg said he stabbed her repeatedly in the chest and then in the back Uh, the chest was because he wanted to kill her the back was because he was angry at how much he bled all over his gremlin So he had he had he had residual anger after the murder and was like fucking god blood Car and he and he started stabbing her again. Have you some more because that makes sense Well, I mean this is a dude. He's played with the shit. Yeah, so, um, you know now.
I'm really starting to hate him He's like I just feel like he was set up to fail. Well, yeah, he was but yeah, but at this point So I think the and we're right we're not professionals at all But Greg and I stance always like yeah, he went through a lot of shit But how many people went through very similar circumstances that did not? Murder anyone and also did not play with their shit True and if that's true call in now. Yes, we are live here It is a one eight oh five six six six two five one three Hearing from you.
Uh, yeah, we do call the fuckers. Uh, so Her body's found pose lying on her back and covered with branches He signed a confession to her murder and was charged with first degree murder and was put in jail April 15th 1980 Tony van haddex body is found near Daytona beach She had been stabbed multiple times in the head April 9th 1980 stand out confessed to the murder of Tony van haddex Yeah, that was a girl. Yeah, uh, September night She was found on April 15th that he confessed on April 9th It took him a while to find her out may not apologize may not stand out confessed to the murder of Tony Almost a month later. Mm-hmm.
Okay. He couldn't contain it. Nope September 2nd 1981 stand up leads guilty to the murders of mary carol mar and Tony van haddex And nancy heard is yeah, and it's heard in his sense to life in prison He also admits to murdering Ramona neo Linda Hamilton and the unidentified victims Uh, but is not charged for these three murders since there's no evidence to quit there was those are all repeats, right? Yeah, I don't believe I'm giving you guys anything new so I may not have reached 41 Good because that would have been awful Before we even get there there's a good chance he maybe did two of these that's that's what what I'm thinking by the I keep just saying it could have been more and I'll get I'll get people to die I'll give you uh, these people really die these people are really dying 70s in florida was fucking wild If you think about it because i think where else was out there doing some shit Ted Bundy was out there doing some shit and 70s You got some alcohol gain Yeah, it's uh It's wild in florida and I think that like people think that while that florida is very wild and I recently read something about how It's the state one of the few or the only state that has open police records That's why everybody thinks florida so fucking crazy because it's all public You can just go and look at all of the arrest records for everybody and all the wild shit that happens which is Close documents in most states and florida.
No here you go. You look at what this I admire that transparency Yeah, it's mostly people doing flock. I believe yeah, yeah, that's all some of whatever else Also a child got eaten by an alligator that is true and disney world. Oh, I remember that scary.
So, um He's he's pleading guilty to pretty much everything they throw at him. It seems like he sends the life in prison Um, I also admits to the repeats we talked about in 1982 while he is in florida state prison. He becomes angry He's not receiving enough extended attention for his murders What did he do when he did not get enough attention question number nine? Was it a admit to more murders?
B try to kill himself c divulged more details about his initial admissions of murders Where did he d completely refuse to cooperate with anything in the future? Did he admit to more try to kill himself gave more details about his already admitted murders or refuse to cooperate anymore We're getting down to it guys question number nine All right, what do we got? More details as Susanna more deeds everybody says more details But you guys You're all wrong. He just went ahead and kept doing what he's been doing all along and admitted to some more murders He confesses to more sharp bick rest moldoon legatino arsenal Bauer and an unidentified woman He was valak branched goods in winston foster bacile debose and williams.
He was holding back on all those for a few years Apparently, so that's what he didn't wasn't getting what he felt enough attention after a little while in prison two years In june 8th 1983 Please guilty to pick rest and moldoon deaths and he waved his right to a trial the same judge as before sent sent to death for these murders In september of the same year he's convinced of he was convicted of cathie lee sharps murder and given the death penalty by jury He confessed his to more victims over the next three years But it's not known if they are all true or just ones that he heard of or was given details for no further charges will ever be filed 1985 the conviction and sentences were all confirmed on their appeals may 22nd 1986 a death warrant is signed and he appeals Of course, why wouldn't he july 1986 not 34 years old at this time by the way? He granted he has granted a stay of execution on june 4th the second death warrant is signed He appeals and an exit execution date is set for august 26th 1987 Stan of files for writ for habeas corpus claiming an effective counsel. He's granted another stay of execution and again loses the appeal so It seems drawn out, but this is exactly how every death penalty case goes and and that's why it takes I believe the average is up to like 19 years in california or something to execute somebody on death run It's just gonna continue to go up. So I don't think anybody's flipping the switch on anybody unless you're in florida or texas They don't really seem to get fuck around there.
They just uh back. Yeah, yeah get it done. So He's losing the appeals. It's not going good for him 1997 skip ahead 10 years The third death warrant is finally signed by florida governor lot and chiles the date is set april 29th 1997 in march of 97 Files his third and final appear appeal And again, he is related to his counsel.
So he's saying I just can't get a lawyer who can represent me effectively I need another trial. It's got to happen again. Uh once more it's thrown out his execution does get pushed back to make 30th 1997 before his execution The method of execution is going to malfunction Uh while it's being used on pajoromedia Stan has got to hang around and wait while they fix the method of execution Uh, so can you imagine the build up there? I'm just confused.
What do you expect when you openly admit? To killing all these people. Oh, but but hang on. I need to appeal my my death sentence.
He wasn't right in the head Yeah, he has seasonal affective disorder. Oh, that's what that was. Okay diagnosed official. I diagnosed in a certified fuckface That was early for me though.
I may have gone a little early on that, but um, okay perfect perfect So for the final chance for anybody to pass Travis So Travis if you get this one right You cannot be beat I hope you feel good about it. I feel fantastic Susanna if Travis misses and you get it right you can tie him and he'll be regretting really the day that he split points with you Which will trigger the artistic challenge But I'll be out completely. No, you're ahead of me you if you get it right and Travis misses you will win the show outright Let's all forego this question and go to artistic challenge We're not tied though. Yeah The last place person.
Hey smart though smart though. I love her. We'll pause and I kind of thought I was around Yeah, I was like they know each other better than I know him so huzzi question number 10 In what way is Gerald stano execute on march 23rd 1998 and it's for 98 march 23rd flow ride a 1998 in what way is Gerald stano executed? Can anybody take Travis off the top let's see what happens You are not allowed to google.
It's Florida. So it's got to be some crazy shit I wouldn't I mean you're the lead. I wouldn't go giving away answers They dropped him out of a plane with no parachute He went to Disney World What year was it 98 march 23rd 1998 The anticipation feels like as if you were sitting there while your means of execution had just broken down in front of you And you have to sit there and watch them repair it. That's what this anticipation feels like right now I know how Gerald stano felt Everybody got an answer.
So how do we want to do it? Do we want to see what Travis has got and just the outright winner in the me? Okay Let's see a Travis. I feel like I fucked up No, I put lethal injection lethal injection.
I will tell you that that is not the correct answer One of these two ladies here. Did anybody else write lethal injection? No, okay. Okay, so I definitely did not win You definitely did not win.
You could still come in second now Susanna if you got it correct you will have tied Travis and triggered our first artistic challenge in a very long time Other way is there to die. Did you say the electric chair? I did then you have just tied Travis. Yes.
I have triggered A tiebreaker. There's no way to Fix it. He's like 1998 like a lecture chair and 98. Come on No way explain this was a host malfunction.
He said imagine this is like you are sitting here That's what's the thing about lethal injection to fix it? No lethal injection. So I said the means of execution. No, you said it and you would play it But I even when he said that I was thinking we It could be a gas chamber or I think it does Anymore because we can't get the Chemicals any longer Greg I will give you a few seconds to think about this.
I'm gonna go grab a couple pieces of paper And when I get back if you could please give us the Artistic challenge I'm gonna do the artistic challenge to just for participation points Another so just really quickly before we get into this as well as all of the firsts and longest and all the cool things I told you before there has never been an artistic challenge due to a tie that I can remember is there been a tiebreaker? Um there have been there have not there have been artistic challenges a lot for points or like determined a winner But there's never been one because there was a tie at the end another first. Yes. I think there might have been one Okay, so Greg have you decided what our contestants will be drawing for the victory today?
Yes artistic challenge for episode 51 tiebreaker I want you to channel your inner child poop poop. It is I want to see uh, what you think his favorite poop sculpture was Uh favorite poop sculpture. Well, he played he played with his poop I'm guessing he uh, I'm guessing sometimes it was an airplane sometimes. It was a car.
Sometimes it was a toy gun So Greg's challenge in short sounds like give him your best Gerald stanow poop sculpture. Yep. What are we graded on? Complete creativity if I know Greg well enough.
It's not always definitely not always it is very subjective It is not always I believe the one time that it determined a winner last Greg chose stick figures Because the the drawing went well for him. He likes because I recognize the blowjob That's right stick figure blowjob. That's why you uh, so now you guys have a little hint on how what so Greg likes blowjobs in the background Good. Who doesn't um, that's actually why I haven't said that.
You want to you want a pander to your judge so I also accept bribes remember. This is for nothing so Remember you win. This is for zero dollars This is the most ridiculous art challenge ever. I've ever been involved in I just want you to realize that you're an adult drawn poop sculptures For literally no prize And while you guys are hanging out, I'll give you a give you a picture of Gerald stanow since you're not having to draw him I feel like he definitely has a comb over And uh blue blocker shades No more glasses than one of them.
Um jesse from friends. I mean, I'm just gonna be full house I was pretty damn close. He's got a thin mouth. Oh, yes.
He looks like uh He's very bubbles from trailer park boys. Yeah, like beaker from uh Muppets Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah everything's all about you Alright, how we uh, how we feeling guys everybody got it? Alright, great. I'll show you tiffany's first and she since she can't win this one's for participation I'll just give it to you so you can you get to see it too.
You know, this is All right, all the other two don't tell me don't tell me what yeah, that's what I'm gonna give you this one first It's like a poop snowman. I like the steaming poop. Yeah. All right.
Let's uh, let's grab another one here Poop knife Everybody everybody house needs a poop knife and it's got a shadow Got peanut in it. That's appreciate it. And corn. Yeah, don't forget corn.
All right. Oh, look at that I have a lot of money. There's a lot going on. There's a poop knife and a poop gun Poop on penis also.
There's a poopy penis up here. And it just says below. Is this the mouth? Oh, I think there's a mouth.
Wait, this is like a chin and then this is the mouth. No, this is just I get it. It seems like a missed blowjob Like a blowjob in the door It's a crime change a lot of blowjob action poop on penis. I really appreciate that caption.
I gotta say though that one's a little busy Um, I prefer the simplicity of the poop knife. All right, so Travis You have one the artistic challenge. This means you have one episode 51 of the serial chillers podcast Thank you. It's a great game.
Yeah, whatever. I'm gonna keep these are you guys is creative purposes are mine now for instagram posts Give me that poop. Give me that poop snowman He looks like he was enjoying the reign of shit that one if that one had been in it Oh, don't tell her it'll just kill her if that one had been in it. It probably still wouldn't have won Second would have been a close second great says well.
Congratulations Travis on your victory Congratulations on closing the gap late. Thank you. Congratulations Tippany on holding the lead the entire time Losing it right at the end which is how much of the serial chillers podcasts work So before we sign off you guys want to throw out any social medias anything you want to plug anything throughout there today We will edit this out if you don't know worries at all anybody Travis does really good graphic Graphic designing stiff ergo poop knife if you want some of that on a sticker t underscore erp Thank you. I appreciate that.
I have an adorable tuxedo cat named Lily. Okay, if you'd like to see her chronicles Oh, oh, fuck. I'm not sure my Instagram handles. He'll just have to find her find Lily Lily the cat Also, I don't think we should let Tiffany off so easily here.
She runs fantastic company. Oh, what's it called? The cafe keto. Yeah, so if you're into ketogenic treats, I believe the handle is just at the cafe keto, right?
And she posts one at farmers market in viselya there we go every Saturday eight to eleven thirty Where's all locals at where come give me your money? I'll give you treats buy my shit And see that's what that's what everybody wins here at the serial chillers podcast a little bit of airtime for nobody listening There must be like two people. I know I try not to look at the stats. They make me sad sometimes Go host Greg anything you want to throw out there at the end my good friend.
Yes. What can I help you with? Um at heligrag on just about every platform. I forgot I found out I had a snapchat last night Um that is still using it still heligrag is just spelled backwards.
So it's gurgola Um Well, it's pretty easy Yeah, that was about it just that heligrag on every platform you can find it so find co-host Greg if you find the social medias You can find the bunker the clue. Oh, and there's a subreddit. Oh, that's right We started the subreddit we're doing our best to stay active in every way we can but it is just Our serial chillers podcast. So yeah, can find us on reddit and uh Give us a new ww Forward slash r forward slash serial chillers podcast.
Yeah, can give us some updates So that's pretty much it guys. That was the story of Gerald stano. I appreciate you guys traveling to be here That's very cool of you. Thank you for staying late night with me.
Thank you co-host Greg for being here Every time you're here man. I appreciate it Again, thank you guys for being here. Thank you Greg and thank you everybody for listening to episode 51 of the serial chillers podcast That was episode 51. Thank you guys so much for hanging in there with us.
Gerald stano definitely killed some people what that actual number is I don't think anyone will ever know truthfully. I want to thank Travis Susanna and Tiffany again for coming out and having to do a mini road trip to do it So I'm very appreciative on my end. It was very fun having you guys you were wonderful guests And I'd have you back anytime. It was very cool end of the show as far as the contest portion went as well So that was that was awesome and congratulations again to Travis for winning nothing You guys know how to reach out to the show if you don't here's how serial chillers podcast for everything but twitter Which is at chillers podcast that serial chillers podcast on facebook instagram and the gmail account you can text or call the show I appreciate the people been doing that a little more.
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