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Yes, I eat a paramomile expo Our March with the alien show and what is the March with the alien show? That's June 9th, okay and then we have our motor gypsy caravan motorcycle and tattoo show which is going to be April 21st and motorcycle charity ride that's for a little seven-year-old girl who has brain tumor and cancer found out down on December 29th And so all good causes all fun events we helped and were present at the paranormal expo. It was a fantastic event It was a smashing success Yes, so good that we had to find a larger spot this year, which is amazing because we had a pretty big spot So yeah, we did and actually also the person that provided us with this wonderful recording studio It is but our recording studio is located in the office of universal promotion and practical magic You know speaking recording studio, we need to have a talk with your cleaning guy and Wow or came it might just be I don't mean I planted that shit myself just so I feel special I walked in here when I first came in today to get stuff kind of set up and and Had a present there was a nice little purple ring that goes on the male genitalia area sitting on our recording table Yeah, I'm glad it was that and not like I used condoms Play it out across the soundboard so apparently you're cleaning guy or you know I guess it would be cleaning guy or cleaning lady Maybe she's got like a somebody who visits her while she's anyway I didn't know some massage bed in the next office and apparently something happened in there I don't know what's going on here now. I'm worried Lysol lots of lots of Lysol I did wipe the table down pretty good with those disaffecting wipes there so before we go talk about stones Let's talk a little bit about what we have done.
I think we already started talking about stones We did ten stones and by the way to help us bring to those stones So let's talk a little bit about our family tree investigation that we did We sold tickets to it We actually sold out and to be honest with you think the group says about perfect I think we could actually prime you to the hair bigger without compromising quality we did investigation But it's actually probably one of the better investigations. I've had a family tree I know that you and I both kind of split up a little bit so let's talk a little bit about your own experiences Why you hadn't start to why I I started on the the main dining room side Which is kind of the mellower side usually? It's where the skin walker hangs out and there's a little girl spirit named Cambridge he hangs out on that side as well And what I found interesting is through the night through the investigation We kind of realized that most of the spirits that were kind of afraid of Lucy and that's the other side of the building were hanging out with me because Apparently it's true Caden says that I'm the parentable bodyguard and so all these spirits kind of felt safe around me So they were all on my side of the building and just kind of they weren't being very active They were just kind of hanging out because they felt safe over on my side It was funny though There's one point where I did tell I want to listen there's a I believe was Shannon that that was my nickname was the the Paranormal bodyguard and they had the dowsing rods out and I went I walked in if you've ever been to family tree You got the main the main dining room and then there's a kind of a small banquet room Just behind it on the other side while there so I went to that small banquet room because I kind of felt an energy I've never felt before and just kind of slowly walked through that room and Came out and found out that they had actually asked the dowsing rods to point it at the bodyguard and The entire time I was walking through the room the dowsing rods were following me through the room and there's no way They could have known where I was walking because I wasn't making any noises as walking through But you know if I walked through the room stopped it would stop where I stopped him the dowsing rods just followed me as I was walking through the room which I thought was kind of cool one thing that I thought was kind of cool for me now I spent most of my investigation over in the private banquet room That's the dining room you're talking about so one where if you go to the family tree restaurant you walk in front doors and Bamb you're in that main dining room I was over the private dining room which is on the west side of the kitchen which generally the public doesn't get to go to unless they're Holding a special event and it was interesting because one of our listeners Eric bought a whole bunch of tickets for a bunch Of his family and friends and so I had Eric and a few other people And we were over in this private dining room and everybody was seated I had David Ward in front of me in front of me to my left at a different table And I had everybody else to my right my immediate right in front of me And then I kind of had the rest of it to my back was we're sitting down and we're doing stuff I see somebody come in kind of weave between everybody on my right hand side Walk in front of me where nobody was at and then I kind of lost sight of him and it was dark and I was kind of just a black silhouette as a guy and Something didn't quite sit right with me so turn on my flashlight and I realized that the only person in front of me was Dave Ward This person I'd seen come in and weave through everybody on my right hand side and over to where Dave was was actually a spirit It's a full-body operation just we've done through and what kills me that it realized what it was while I saw it I mean I saw it playing his day I saw it playing his day But I didn't realize it wasn't an actual member of our group until after I kind of walked in front of me And I went and went and I went and I was there and turned the flashlight and I'll be damned only Dave was there and everybody else was Seated where they had been so kind of a neat experience one of the needer experience that had a family tree I know Elle also kind of had a little bit of an experience after I'd walk through that little banquet room I asked her to walk in there and see if she felt anything and she's like okay So she walked back in there and someone's like why did you feel something there and I just said yeah There's a spirit right there and I pointed after she went to the room and you didn't start so she couldn't see me But everybody else could see where I pointed and when she came out of the room I said did you feel anything and she's like yeah There's a spirit back here pointed the exact same corner that I pointed at so it's kind of cool to see that some of our new members on The team there actually be there being able to kind of pick up on things and sense things as well Well, she's pretty exciting It's interesting because as you introduce people they're investigating a lot of people feel spirit energy all the time every single They have their lives they just have no idea what it is what they're feeling and when you take a minute Kind of point out what it is and you realize what it is You can start picking out where things are at you can kind of pick up moods you can pick up good vibes bad vibes And so it's kind of interesting to see how excited people get when they experience this and realize what it is Are feeling that oh hey, I can kind of sense where spirit you're at You know, I'm not particularly good at it I'm not a medium by any stretch imagination But it's not uncommon for me to go where's the spirit in this room and I can feel behind my back and have brand you another medium Say well, it's right behind you and I just like yeah I know I can kind of feel the well There's been a couple times for you and I have both point where like the spirits right here We both point at the same place at the same time Was it cadence house or his friend's house or whatever that really negative like demonic spirit or tightly in human entity The one that was masquerading it put off this like really positive energy and I felt like it was a warm inviting spirit Which was really weird because that's the first and only time I've experienced that I didn't take a long first to figure out That it was completely full of crap though. Shakespeare spirit.
Yeah, and get rid of it But yeah, that was probably one of our unique fun and interesting business of family tree surprisingly Lucy who we talked about And had talked about quite a bit on the show was kind of a Oh, she was kind of a no show for the most part She didn't really towards the end of the night though. She was she was going wild with the K2s that I was holding Yeah, that's true But I'm gonna say when we actually went down to the basement because we avoided the basement most of the night It's near the very end of the night We went out to the basement once we got down there she was not doing much anything other than K2 stuff But she would flashlight she wouldn't do anything like she normally does she wanted everybody out but me she wanted me to stay Well, she seemed kind of busy and I wasn't there. Yeah, well She is like as being there But she wanted me down there by myself and everybody else out I kind of feel like the more that I kind of work with and I kind of open up that some of these negative spirits get really Pissing that I show up and then when you have Brandy there on top of that You just kind of have the perfect like we don't want to do anything because these guys are here But they were they were she was doing her best to scare Elle Because I remember she had the 1k2 going off and else switched out to a different k2 and that k2 kept going off And I can't remember what you guys asked, but I remember her thought popped in my head And I said it out loud it was something like I don't have anything to prove to you Yeah, I remember that yeah, and then I started picking up on see I know somebody spirits that like I inadvertently read spirits energies and kind of bothers them a little bit sometimes Especially with this type of spirit But I was telling you guys what her plan was that she was trying to intimidate Elle Because she figured if she was able to get to Ellen break her down then it would affect you right because ultimately she's trying to I mean near the leader of the team and she's trying to bring you down She thinks that you know she's able to you know kind of take you out of the picture that the rest of us are gonna I don't know what she's thinking but I don't know if that process either But anyway, it was a fun investigation and keep your eyes out because we will be doing more public investigations We will be going back to family tree We're gonna try and arrange it at visit to a son of 49 and like we promised before on our previous investigations We will do our best to make sure that prices are reasonable We will also make sure that we keep the group small enough you can have a quality investigation We're not gonna try and pack 500 people into a venue like family tree We're gonna make it like I did mention on Facebook We've got one of our investigators Dell who is currently working on setting up a new location that we've never done before I mean the three of us in this room on the podcast right now We've been to this location we have but as far as like doing it as a public event This will be the first official Wisps event at this location But we did do it for the paranormal Expo But keep in mind we will be having public events and we will be selling tickets So just keep your eyes posted. We'll be posting them on our Facebook page We'll be posting on the pog gum Facebook group And some other areas But these tend to sell pretty quick because we do keep our groups relatively small I might have to get back in the pod bash goblin group.
Yeah, I left because I was sick of all the Star Wars talk It's not bad. It's it's they're pretty decent. Well, we're about 15 minutes And you know I realize we didn't do that before we get talking about stones We didn't explain where everybody else is at That is right. Yeah, we don't care Deans never hear because she's always on vacation.
She went to Disneyland Yeah, I think it was a lot of vacation. I'm not sure how she works that but she's I don't know she doesn't have money But she's always on vacation. Yeah, she's always somewhere and then I'm sure her So all that kind of life and then lurch is overwhelmed with homework as usual and we're doing her peaches I'm eating slow cookers on you without me. Oh, I was she's slow cookers on you over you too Tim I would too.
It's not these delicious. So with us like we mentioned we do have an and I wrote her with us I'm we're gonna talk about stones and by stones. I'm talking Chris. I'm not talking about the thing I got left on our table We're talking crystals So we last podcast we put out there that we wouldn't want to people's questions And so we're gonna kind of go through some of those I'm gonna start out with one of those okay, Anne Please this question was asked to me by Elle the other day And she wanted to know how much the placebo effect plays in some of these crystals I E someone believes the crystal has an ability and so they kind of infuse it with their own personal energy and the crystal Basically resonates that back.
So not a placebo effect such as I give you along the plastic state obsidian and it works with obsidian Is there a story there Tim? It could be The necklace that I just bought off of me was on this and it's rainbow obsidian turned out to be a piece of black plastic rainbow polymer But her question was is could there be a placebo effect where we basically infused something with energy because We believe it and so it works as we believe it's gonna work not so much a placebo effect like a fake But it does what we want to say placebo to me. That's the same thing is how do you define faith? Right so you can program your crystals and you should so depending on what their intention is or why they're using them It definitely could absorb that intention or energy and I don't know about necessarily a placebo effect I would say that I guess there could be kind of a placebo effect if you think about you know spontaneous healings or those kind of things if you Put your intentions on utilizing that crystal for whatever if you're trying to heal a sore throat so to speak Right well, I mean I got that stone you remember the one I bought for my dad at the panel festival Right camera what was called some yellow stone, but he bought a pouch for it and wears it out his neck every day And he's told me since I got that for him He no longer uses his arthritis cream on his hands be more like the arthritis in his hands is pretty much taking care of itself But isn't he somebody that doesn't necessarily believe in it?
You know he never Just I had a tone said you know I felt like you need this So I wouldn't say that goes in the category of placebo because he was a non-believer But has found sense that there has been a effect that is desirable so now you mentioned programming your crystals This may be we kind of talked about before I share the podcast how we're gonna unfold this whole thing sure Before we move into other questions, let's kind of touch on that for a second. How does one program their crystals? So you as before yeah, no So everybody pretty much knows how to Shield themselves with white light, you know, it's a meditation technique Technically like if I had I have a master course crystal on my chain here that I wear all the time So I put that on my third eye and I would visualize like a laser beam of white light And then I would say out loud so I intend for this to help Protect me and guide me and let it absorb all that energy and that's pretty much it pretty simple. Okay, that's pretty easy What other questions we got Tim do you want to jump into the questions?
Yeah, let's jump into the questions and we'll just talk crystals in general Okay, well, we can start out with this first one here from Terry Wanted to know if there's any stones that help with sleeping or insomnia sure So especially when it comes to sleeping you want to be really careful what you put beside you or beside your bed Because ultimately you don't want it to energize you you want it to help you to become you know sleepy or you know I have more sound sleep. So for example, I wouldn't put an amethyst in next to my bed Even though it's a calming stone, but it's actually used for enhancing your intuitive abilities or psychic abilities and those kind of things Is a spiritual stone so unless you want to have you know intuitive dreams and you know be Visioning all the time while you sleep. I don't necessarily think that's gonna help you sleep well So things like rose quartz so maybe tourmaline turquoise those kind of things, but you also want to be careful how it's shaped So like if it is a pillar or a point you never want to point when you towards your head so but other than that those are some Good ones. What about as far sleeping goes?
What about Selenite next to the better near the bed? I'd say that's okay. Okay, and how about pink Himalayan salt? Pink Himalayan salt would be okay, but it's a negative energy cleanser So even like I would even go back to the Selenite It probably kind of falls in that category because it's considered to be one of the most vibrational crystals that connects you with heavenly energies and so it probably helps enhance your dreams versus Call me in effect.
So I would maybe not put it right next to my bed. Okay, I'm just I'm just asking my Yeah, I know for me personally like I used to have but with what we do and the type of entities we've come across I just get a lot of nightmares about things attacking me and my family. I have purchased and it looks exactly like this one That's on our table here Salt lamp and I never turn that down. It's always on 24 seven.
Well, but if you even think about salt It's a salt lamp and salt is used to block or cleanse Negative entities spirits those kind of things so it's doing that for you So but the other thing that you could do is you could take black tourmaline and you basically put a piece of turquoise on top of it That's considered to be kind of like a burglar alarm for spirits or you know negative Things that within a depending on the size of it within like up to a three-foot radius So it almost acts like an alarm for those kind of things. How does it work? What do you mean? How's it work?
We said kind of like a spiritual burglar alarm I mean how does the combination function so you it'll help you to become aware if anything but they won't come past that so like Let's say if you just have a standard like palm size, you know Turmaline and then you put the turquoise on top of it They won't come within like a three-foot radius depending on that if it was that size They wouldn't come within about three foot rates. Now if I had a bigger size it'd go out further. Okay, that makes sense So going off that note we have another question From one of our other listeners asked does a larger stone have more effect than a smaller stone? I'm gonna say Yes, because if you think about I'm gonna go back a couple of steps because one of the things you were talking about is about the placebo effect One of the things is is that we have a lot of scientific evidence that supports this So even if you logically go back to even quartz watches If you go back to you can even look at what they use in space shuttles or space You know rockets and they use selenite gypsum.
So basically you would think that golds a mineral alright And they golden case things So I'd say that we have a lot of evidence today that's backing up what we've always felt versus, you know We were in the weewoo category So back to the size thing I would say that the larger the size the more potent the effect They've even found that below on the say it's one of the pyramids and like it's not cheap to need to kind of think of the other one Anyway, they dug underneath there and they found a lot of mercury rivers and stuff underneath the Temples, but they actually have gypsum in case like it's like a size of this room I mean so this is what so about 12 foot by 12 foot. Yeah, and it's literally a gypsum box That was used to shield and they think that it energetically protected So I mean there's a lot of logically things that we can think of that fits with stones and those kind of things You know and it's interesting because You kind of touched on the woo-woo aspect and that was kind of a hard thing for me because when I first started doing this and people like oh you need this Stone this stone I'm trying okay, and you kind of give them that the cheesy smile doesn't put your eyes kind of your head You want to pat my head say thanks for your help? But the more I personally have used some of this stuff the more I've actually seen an effect But if you start looking around like even in the Bible they talk about the Levi priest that Moses Well, you guys talk about a yurmin thumb them, right? Which is it was a stone well Yeah, as you say it from a religious aspect the Levi priest had a breastplate that had and it had certain stones that were required to be in this Breastplate if you look at the LDS faith, yeah, yeah the yurmin thumb which is described as a clear stone Back even the doctrine of covenants which is a LDS scripture talks about look at the minerals They built their temples with and the stones that they pick what do they pick those right?
And so I think there's certainly more to it than just a bunch of us sitting around going I think this does this and just kind of shove it in a drawer I just think it's cool And to the 21st century that science is finally catching up with us and what we've always said or we felt or how we've experienced things and people Are adding more credibility to that day by day? And I love that if you look at historical accounts and the archaeological things that they're finding and things that they're doing More and more they're starting to come more to our side than not which makes sense God bless he's curled up the open I was gonna ask him what our next question is but I'm having to call an ambulance and you down Nine and one okay, and if he doesn't start breathing it I'll buy one again I think he may be eating that thing they found on the table they came in I don't know it's watching this throat Wow, that's pretty horrible. I think Mark I just like a week now. Oh, yeah, that's fun.
Um Our next question Comes from Logan he wanted to know if stones can affect other people He says he finds hard to believe that doing something like putting black tourmaline around a door We keep negative people away So if so, what would be the range or power of central power and I think you kind of answer this yeah I think we just kind of answered that based upon intent size, but I always look at those as loaded questions because again, we could go back to I'm you to 10 for a minute, okay, he's other eaten a festival All right, so I would go back to know that that's just a linear Solution so I wouldn't just rely on a singular crystal to take care of like repelling negative people or things So I do a lot of ritual work like with archangels those kind of things So I would look at that needs to be a multi-layer solution versus just placing black tourmaline if I'm trying to repel negative people But then I'd also have to say I'm like I need to talk to that person and find out really what's going on with you And what you're allowing into your space. So so let me ask an eye I think I got the answer there about just to clarify so there are ways that crystals can affect other people ie If I want to keep him out of the studio I can put a big crystal on the table here and it may repel him I don't think so. I think the Stomensburg Yeah, I don't think they necessarily Repel people, but I think it can affect you a energetic, you know, I mean we're a we're all energy You know, this is a shell that houses are whether you believe it's your spirit or some you know a serial body And so energetically we know that they all vibrate at different levels I mean they've shown that you know, they've measured the vibrational levels of crystals or stones or even you know They call it the Moss hardness scale and so all of them have various different things in them. I mean what is a mineral?
What is it? Messing it's a rock. No, it is basically it's an element. Yeah, it's that combined together that formulates what we call crystals, right?
It's molecules and atoms and all I mean we we found it was kind of a cool discovery I didn't even think about it, but I have a little bag that I keep all my crystals in and I put one of my really Heavy-duty magnets in there and I was going through my crystals and I pulled out the magnet. Well the tigers. I was attached to it Makes sense. I didn't even I'm like tiger.
I is magnet magnetize or whatever. I mean it has iron ore in it Yeah, so it's kind of cool, but it's like what if this thinks if you think about a hematite magnetite or essentially the same mineral Just won the electrons are lined up. Yeah versus one the knot. So one one I you ones magnetic one is just And they're both forms of iron.
Yeah, iron helps us play It's a quote from the Simpsons Randy would have got it We want to go on the next one. Let's go to the next one. This one I think we can sort of answer She's got like four questions here all rolled into one But how do you clean your crystals or stones? I know some of the easiest ways to do it Just one is you just touch it to sell night or you can use carnillion Those are both stones that cleanse other stones selling I being a self cleansing stone You don't really need to cleanse it and that's probably the easiest way You can also give your stones like a salt water bath.
I wouldn't ever do that See I know some places do suggest that so if you are to this is a lot of the thing is like you went Google like how to cleanse my stones The problem is it is we just talked about that there are minerals and it changes the molecular Properties and so some of the things that I would do is that you could you know Bait it in moonlight. You can use sage and cleanse it that way you can take a copper pyramid and put it underneath them and do it that way I use my tuning forks a lot vibrationally energetically cleansing the stuff on them. Most people don't Program them like we talked about with their intentions of what they want to use them for But you know they think oh I'm gonna cleanse it But you should even be able with your intentions as well for why you want to use them and then you can Deep program the same way. I know you mentioned moonlight.
How about sunlight? You could I know back before I figured out Selenite existed. I used to leave mine out for several hours Yeah, a lot of people say put them in water and I wouldn't put them in water. I There's been places where I purchased ons from and they're like oh yeah Just give them salt water bath and the problem with some of those stones are like Selenite It's a water-soluble stone so like if you do that you're you're gonna have stone left when you're done So you can get some it went for just a second But if you get if Selenite spends too much time with water It's kind of gummy and icky and slimy But with Selenite being a self-consonant stone you don't really need to do much with it Right, but it's a safe careful because there's more stones in just Selenite.
It can be water-soluble Yeah, it's the same thing is making jam elixir So that's considered putting gemstones and using their properties to enhance water You really want to be careful because some of them actually have Well poisonous substances in them that break down into the water and so you don't want to be using those So you definitely could look up and make sure that you're putting you know like quartz crystals or something in it That's not gonna harm you those kind of things That's again, you go back to the moss hardness scale so that you can tell what's gonna break down what's not gonna break down See on her next question would be how do you recharge your stones? One of the things that I've learned or that I mean correct me if I'm wrong with this But we just talked about cleansing stones like putting it in the moon will help cleanse the stone But keeping it out in the sun like you said I felt it was gonna help recharge the energy of the stone Is there any other ways that you can recharge your mirror? Honestly, I think if you use them you energetically charge them but most of them don't need a lot of retouching I mean they're self-charging and so I mean you could also put them with other stones that you know are energetically enhancing those kind of things but Yeah, most of them are self-retouching. I think this is kind of a funny question But best don't really want your desk to work so everyone will leave you alone so you can work I think I think I'll just solve for a big backup solve for my aside your hand A statue of someone giving the bird.
Yeah, go away Yeah, I don't know if there's I don't know if there's a particular stone that you can use this kind of it's you might use like a City that might absorb like negative energy off of somebody but it's not gonna like necessarily there's nothing that's gonna keep someone away from you There's not a repellent like I said, I mean really ultimately stones affect energy Just use fart gas so I mean there's a book called the crystal bible Which talks when you kind of find out what you need a stone for you can kind of look up and it tells you what the best Stones are so if you get people in your office or constantly coming to complain You may be able to find the stone that may kind of change the energy in your office But less act to complain but as far as like or repellent like I said But I think I was gonna be conch a sulfur inside your head and the stick a level keep you blood your office Then our last question was other negative stones that cause negative reactions in people No unless you're a negative person already and you are irritated by something that has a positive vibration Which I think kind of answers that you know And I think really in correct me if I'm wrong, but you're talking to many native people I mean you're almost of the black or a category where people are just we pulse by different things right where something positive really Set somebody off and I've met a couple people like that, but those kind of people are pretty rare overall So Matt had a question here and I think the best answer to his questions I would tell Matt just to give you a call and set up an appointment with you because he's He was at the investigation with us on a family tree and he was I don't hold my Torquoise and he was trying to kind of open up more and get more tuned This question was I want to feel the spirits was the best on combination one of the things that I would recommend would be like the turquoise or mold the bite or Another stone that I use is the malachite But there's several stones to help open like your third eye But I think to find like a specific stone that would work with you As far as you go Matt I would I would recommend giving Anna call instead of an appointment She could probably help you find the specific stones that would work perfect for you. I get those questions all the time And I think it's multi layered. It's like just as many people there are out there There's just as many ways to enhance your you know intuitive abilities or your your third eye So ultimately it's not gonna just be one crystal that does it it takes a lot of constant work or Keep working and I guess I'd say is it to work to enhance that ability You know along with that I think so was kind of build up walls for that kind of thing We kind of convinced ourselves not to fill those kind of energies I think like my friend that I took to dancing crane where every stone that I picked out for She couldn't feel shit off of me in the stones And it was the one stone that she did feel something off of the stones actually for her little four-year-old daughter that was with us And it scared her because I was the only stone she could feel anything off her She felt the heat coming off the stone which is not a bad thing That's actually a good thing that stones reacting to you and letting you know that you know this is a good stone But every stone I handed you that to me like because I can kind of we talked about I can pick up stones for other people and she Wasn't feeling anything from any of these stones So I just looked at her and I'm like you've put a block on I'm like you need to I'm like you need to see an energy Wherein help open yourself up to the stuff because I think right now she just she wants to believe that they do something for But I think she's more fascinated by the pretty factor when it comes to the stones I think stones are in the category of spirit and so ultimately If we're afraid of things or we've put up those walls usually because of fear or Afraid of the unknown or you know those kind of things it's like spirit doesn't exist where fear is Right and I was gonna say and really there are stones that can help enhance that kind of stuff But really you kind of need to get rid of the block and get that wall out of the way before you're really gonna have a lot of success And again as Tim mentioned the best way to do that is to make a point with some of my and who can kind of help you with some guided Meditations and energy healing and help kind of break down those barriers We had that person I just asked him so what are you afraid of because ultimately what is a block usually it's because we've been hurt Or we're afraid of being hurt. There's a fear and it's like what's the fear?
She's thoroughly convinced that everything we talked to is demonic and there's no such thing as a human spirit It's just the religion she grew up in and I mean I like my religion You know I haven't really practiced it in the last like 16 17 years But I'm still learning more about it But I kind of realize that when it comes to the metaphysical and religion a lot of times they kind of go hand-in-hand Where it seems like you can't really have one without the other That's absolutely funny thing the contradix usually like you said it's hand-in-hand Most of it is hand-in-glove when you really get down to not some bolts of it Let's see are there stones that if they're placing each other that they will cancel each other out Let's say no, but you probably want to stick with things that have I just drew a brain fart That have comparable properties so versus you know, it's like I want to Energetic stone that you know increases my vitality and my energy, you know with a calming stone I'm like I mean I guess I could be a cancellation out factor. You know they're gonna be doing energies versus, you know, harm and no harmonic energy So I guess if you look it in that way, yes Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, so ultimately a lot of stones In combination work really well like the tooth that I like if I'm on an investigation or obsidian and cell night You know obsidian basically absorbs negative energy so night cleanses negative energy and the two together harmonious they basically one sucks at any other cleans it up. Yeah, so it's kind of a cycle But yeah, I guess what you're saying, you know an energy stone and a calming stone could oh, yeah Have a not a negative effect but kind of a counseling effect right or it could have a almost an anxiety effect because it's like they're Doing energies what's actually I used to be certified as a drug recognition expert Which means I could use to sit down with somebody and run through battery tests and basically tell you what kind of drugs They were on and there was What they called poly drug use and basically somebody took a stimulant and a depressant you may see Evidence of either or right it's kind of dependent on which they taken more of you can tell they taken more than one drug But just as far as the effect on the body it really just depended on what combination what dose right and there's really no way to pin down Specific so I imagine probably the same with something like drinking a red bull vodka man.
You drink it a depressant with a simulate Turned it to him Awesome. Yeah, hope and they just keep you level. I don't like it drunk, but I don't want to be too like hyper either All right, what do you got first in? Just kind of some repeat questions like someone asked We're like must have stones for beginners and I'd say depends on the situation like what are you starting to do or you're trying to open your third eye?
Are you wanting something for protection? I'd say there's some basic ones that I think everybody should kind of have in their Kit so what would be like rose quartz quartz You could look at hematite normally Turquoise so some oh amethyst so I mean it's a six and again I think it comes down to what it is what your intent is Mm-hmm as far as beginners and stuff goes now if you're looking from a paranormal investigation standpoint the two that I'd recommend anybody pick up I'd be sitting in selling and with this and this is actually it's a protection show as well Yeah, I don't I don't get anywhere with that man with a cell and I am this obsidian Hematite for sure, but yeah and jet and it's interesting. Let's talk a little bit about What to do I mean because I know that Tim had carried around a wood box just chuck full of stones That's that box was also donated to me by our lovely sponsor over here. I personally I carry cleansing kit I take all our investigations just because I never know what I'm gonna need so I've got and we actually I'm gonna throw that cleanse and kid bit my bit.
That was a boring episode to go back and listen to it But I just keep a little leather bag and I keep all my stones in that bag I've got some bigger stuff that doesn't fit in the bag But I just have everything with me and I just whatever I need I need some of the stuff I could pull out there And I probably couldn't identify right off the back. Oh, I just remember that one bag of stones that you handed me if the client's house You're like everything lease on but I was literally like crawling across the floor like hug myself around Mike for protection Because stones had so much negative shit on him. You're like guess where I got these from and I told you exactly where they came from I'm like you need to cleanse the shit out of these man. Well, I we can say which client because we actually did a show with that client They came from a cleaves house the house with a really bad port on the table.
They absorbed so much shit I was like I couldn't get away from those things fast enough I'm like I don't want to be anywhere near these yeah, he gave me some of a good dragonstone and they hadn't been a claims and they were just Nasty with the negative energy so interestingly now if we sit on cell night for Yeah If you look in my box I have a piece of selling that covers maybe half of the bottom of the box I got a big round ball of cell night I've got like up my hand held like palm thing of cell night And then my little leather bag that I carry on to be that's got cell night in it as well I've got some of some and I I still need to come over your house and and do what I plan on doing is Basically gonna cover the entire the top and the sides on the bottom of my box will sell and I so my stones are always in case And so I come to it. I've got eight then sheets of cell night that we can line your box with every It's spray on adhesive and I've got a milk crate full of cell night She's got an awesome piece of selling on the office. Oh, yeah, that thing's huge. It's it's puts a lot of energy Yeah, several of those in that milk crate has been huge chunks.
Mm-hmm. So So what else we want to talk about stones? Well, I wanted to get into this is another reason why we asked And to be on the show this today is kind of how you can use stones for Energy healing and for like I did meditation because I know I've gone through session with you and you know We did I think we tried we did the guided meditation try to line my shockers We're not and so there's different stones that you used and and I just kind of want to go over like that process of Like how to use them or so I would go back again I'd say that this also on my part if I'm the energy healer working on you I into it what I think you need based upon what you're giving off So that will help my decision making as far as where and what placement I need to put them in Sometimes I'll start with like let's say I put Serpentine on your lower chakra and I'm like no it needs to go someplace else So if it was you and you're doing a meditation, I think that's your responsibility to into it or feel like where you need to go now There's some general guidelines obviously right where you might want to play some but if I'm doing a meditation I may you know hold it like this crystal quartz and I'll put on my third eye, you know and do an energy exercise that opens my third eye You could do a crystal grid and have a crystal grid with you And that has a wide variety of stones a lot of times or you know, maybe only a couple But energy healing I would say if you came and you had a particular ailment and I knew that like let's say you suffered from ulcers or yet Digestive problems. I'm gonna pick a crystal that works with digestive problems.
So like maybe Moss agate, you know those kind of things And this is something you just it's you just kind of place on the body in certain areas or a lot of times I'll line them through your chakra centers But a lot of times like say for example, I have a Shungite and a grounding stone and I'll have you hold those one in each hand And so depending on which whether you're right-handed or left-handed I'll have you hold them and use those while you I do my work and I'll line you up with along your chakras depending on what's going on So before you start doing like in the end you go like what do you recommend doing any type of like Protection setting up like a protection grid or anything like that before forehand or I always do I always have a I call it a What the heck do I call it only crappity is like a Banishing ritual where I call in four archangels really simple So it's like kind of a guided meditation and that takes care of that for me So like I said, so if somebody's just relying strictly on crystals to do the gig I think they're kind of leaving yourself open for different things. I mean today answer your question there That's the question again. It was more or less is like do you do any type of like protection? That's that's what I would do to protect myself But and then I go through like I do the same thing every single time where I literally do kind of like a five-minute Guided meditation where I invite in what I call my team So I call in you know have a team of various my spirit guys I have about five or six, you know, archangels that I work with on a regular basis ascended masters and that's my team You know, so and I do the same thing every single time So depending on what you feel like you need or what space you're doing it if I was gonna meditate I would try to pick the same place and do it in there every single time because you build up energy in that area And it becomes easier and easier to meditate so if you're at your home and you have a space that you meditate in most often I would try to pick that because it helps you to become more It would be easier to meditate in the same spot.
It makes sense. Let me ask you this as we're talking about stones Is there still anything it's misused quite a bit or is probably should be used by say an amateur amateur? Yes, mold invite I'd say Libby and desert glass not as much but things like I mean, there's certain stones that are extremely potent And so I would say that if you're not prepared for What you get because mold invite is like one of the most potent energetic psychic enhancement kind of things so I would say that there are some So let me ask you how could a little bit be misused or used in a way that I wouldn't say that it would be misused in a way But I would say that if you're not prepared to open yourself up that much It's like I have a friend who's he's written like 30 different books and he used to use mold invite a lot more than he does Now he just can't energetically handle it as much does it make sense? And so I would say that that would be the way I could see you misusing it I mean, it's like maybe if you want to use some dark demonic Satan tannic ritual and you use crystals in it then I guess that's a misuse, right?
That actually brings up a very good question now We've talked about the most part in this particular podcast the positive use of stones can stones I think you kind of answered it being misused Well, yeah, because if you think about programming them with your intention, right and accessing energies I'm sure you can use them. I'm not a I'm a light worker of not a dark work group But I'm sure that you could use them with that intent and you using you know ritual I'm sure they use it all the time. I think it's the reason I mean you can have something like obsidian where it's designed to absorb negative energy someone to possibly take that Negative energy and use it for you will I say in a sense as I'm sitting here thinking and I'm just thinking out loud But I imagine it probably loaded piece of sitting with a considerable amount of negative energy with the intent for it to store the negative energy Program it to use use as you're saying Tim kind of focus that negative energy towards some ill intent Well, you can buy in spirits to certain things or objects, right? So we know that you know, there's demonic spirits that are bound to inanimate objects.
So I can it be a crystal Makes sense to me. Mm-hmm. So one question I did kind of skip over and I think it's kind of a good question Mike was wanting to know how do you feel if a stone is working or you know Why can sometimes you can fill the energy off a stone and sometimes you can't for me personally? I can feel the stone working.
It's my whole left arm. We'll just start to tingle It's a Well, you know when I sit on my hand and we'll tell those no It's kind of that the feeling you get when you drink ham juice. Yeah, what? Am to you Okay, no like when Kind of a sensation you go like a you flip-flood sleep.
That's kind of what I feel in my hand I've had other people describe it to me where they've it seems to be mostly females I've noticed where the stone will actually feel warm in the hand Sometimes you can feel it vibrating. I said for me It's usually more along lines about vibrating or an energy similar to my fill spirit. Just kind of like that the Natural wands where you hold the natural wood ones in one hand and you hold the stone the other one and you feel it vibrate or tingle differently with a different type of stone Using the natural. Have you actually tried that before?
I did it with a That piece of obsidian that I gave to Cindy that large like drag nag that had the red obsidian and red spots And they had that little tiny snowflake in it But when I was holding that with one of the wands like there was just the energy coming off of that was just completely different It's kind of a kind of a cool feeling now as far as why like some stones you can feel it sometimes and sometimes you can't I honestly don't have an answer for that because I've noticed before too like with my stones for me It's like nine and a half of the time I can feel the energy coming off of them just because my stones have picked picked me and I've They're there meant for me So it could be that maybe you have a stone that Was meant for you at one point time But maybe you've kind of moved on and you don't necessarily need that stone anymore Or maybe you don't need it at that particular time It might be a reason why you don't feel the energy coming from the stone or maybe it could just be I think sometimes It's like I told people that I usually get one of three types of clients One is somebody comes to me a couple times a year. They want like a reading second type of client is somebody who comes to me What is gifted and they don't know it and the other time is ones who are gifted and don't know what the hell to do with it So it's that I would say the more you know, which one you are But the fourth type the type that you're showing up the cat for you get rid of him No, that's the one that we decided that you know crystals really won't take care of that Please bricks for those But I would say that the more that you work on your ability to sense or fill Energy's the more able you'll probably be able to fill the energy that come off a crystal It's the same thing as feeling spirit the more that you work and you're Intentionally trying to enhance your relationship with spirit. They continue to expand now. I know that we have run across a few occasions Heff a being one And for those who don't know if he has used to be one of our original podcasters people heard blockers who cannot feel spirit energy the complete total other skeptics on that every level Or the people like that who crystals cannot affect or they can block that energy.
Oh, she's thinking she's thinking hard. Hmm I want to say no I mean, it's like but then again There's part of me that wants to say yes because just like when we put a shield up around us to protect us from negative energies And I do that every day. So I'm essentially blocking out any dark forces negative energies those kind of things and you know You know putting that there so I guess they could probably shield themselves from that but We have to go in and look at our theory of energies and whether it can break through those barriers I'd be interesting. I don't think you would a great a take part in such an experiment They probably get something like FAA and see if that's something that Worked forward against or large large.
Yeah large does not believe in the power of the stones You know what though the last couple of times we've been with him He's I'm seeing hairline fractures in that I did get her by that he was tight necklace Though most of it was just because it looked cool, but regardless like those those people I think you have to break down their psychological barriers first and that's where I say that you have to look at What's causing their inability to feel or work with stones and that's probably something who's more analytical? You know gathering the scientific evidence that supports the use of crystals and different things and opening their mind as far as being willing to entertain the fact that they have a greater purpose and Then you might open a doorway there that they might be able to let some of that in or you just get lucky like I did what open me because I mean one listeners pointed out to me that in an earlier episode I said stones work best when he thought of the spiritual in a way I Open the door for me was we were the family tree and I actually handed one of the workers there He was Cindy remember this I handed her a piece of selenite. I didn't tell her what it was what it was supposed to do Or anything like that I remember actually I had a room I'm sitting first and she said a shocker hand and she immediately dropped it So then I said well here try this one and handed her a selenite wand and she said instantly it just felt like like a whirlpool Just kind of like sucking all of this like bad made of anything out of her She said she just felt completely refreshed and never felt as good in her life as she did at that moment And I actually ended up giving her the selenite wand. I'm like you go ahead and keep that It was for me like you know I didn't tell her that selenite was supposed to be cleansing stone It was supposed to be a rejuvenating stone kind of like a healing stone I didn't tell her anything about the stone what it was what was supposed to do and for her to give me that reaction Tell me that that's what she was experiencing.
That's what kind of opened the door for me and said hey Maybe there is something to this. Oh, sorry. No, I was even I just thinking so I started working and I don't know if any of you guys Know who Karen Baldwin is but she's like a second you can hear who said the nine death experiences she was at the But you know she hasn't ever really worked with crystals until I started working with her recently And I gave her almost like a palm worry stone Which is a red and black obsidian and she literally rubbed the heck out of it But she even made a comment on Friday that the things that are coming in her readings are Even more than they were originally it's like literally because I really believe that she lives more in the spirit realm Then she does here and so she really needs a lot of grounding But she says her readings have been great I noticed and kind of what turned things for me as far as crystals and stones go is early on when we started investigating You know we were working with some different psychics and mediums and they use crystals and I Kind of wanted to see about getting some protection stuff And you know the first thing I was turned to was amethyst and obsidian and And then shortly thereafter Selenite and I had a couple instances with the peaches and caden where they were getting attacked And I you know would hold saying a Totally awesome train thought a Selenite wand you know up against them if they're getting attacked and it made it clear Difference, you know this is from behind where they can't even see what I'm doing You know I've got one of each in each hand and you know I'm hit with one and there'd be a noticeable Changes that energy would dissipate and so it's instances like that like what Tim's talking about with a Selenite to a Cindy Well, here's a cool thing. There's gotta be something to this so Stephanie my partner her uncle has Some leg issues.
He has like a blood clot that's in his knee. He was he wrecked on a four-wheeler It's been probably a year or so ago But so we go rock-hounding and he would cleanse or not cleanse is in you know Energetically cleanse because he's a total skeptic doesn't believe in this stuff at all. It's the the woo-woo stuff, right? However, he enjoyed cleaning them, you know, helping Yeah, helping get him ready for his wife to you know do some rapping for us and But so his doctor said that That had never go away or dissipate that he's just gonna have to live with the rest of his life This huge blood clot is in his leg But he found this one particular crystal that he just liked I guess and he started working I literally was taking like a little nail file and clean it out and just worked on it until It took him off and he throw back in the water, you know, then pick it back up He went back into the doctors a couple weeks later and they re-scanned and x-rayed his leg and it was totally gone So cool things like that, you know, so anyway, we've kind of exhausted our time on podcast Yep, it's been over an hour We win them so real quick I'm gonna do a couple things here first off And Tim doesn't I'm gonna do this but we called him the Ston wasper for a reason So if anyone's interested in crystals and knowing what they should get what stones are for them Contact him.
I don't know what his rate is But plan on paying his rate and you're pranked by a few crystals from and as Tim tells you what you need And actually does sell crystals here as well as the doing the guided mutations the readings she sells tarot cards And all sorts of like oracle cards and stuff like that. She also sells Was it the the plano? What's it called the wood? Oh?
Palisanto wood yeah, she's got sage. She's got smudge ray Candles candles So just come give her a visit and check out her little store here and So we pick out some crystals if you want practical magic and how do they get in touch with you again? And three eight five four nine two one eight one or they can visit universal promotion services dot com Fantastic and like I said, I don't know what tins rates are but if you want a personal I didn't know I did this for money But yes, you do yes, you just picked up that That's a new job that I have now But if you want to arrange a session with him he can tell you which stones are specifically for you and what stones you specifically need So you have to pay tins rate and then whatever stones you tell you need you're obviously going to pay for those because those don't come with right, but I've seen tend to it numerous times with numerous people and it's well worthwhile I've spent my I didn't I need to spend when I want to go you need this and I look at after the complete strangers And I look at people I can't go apparently I need this here's my here's my credit card and it's Sean's booth I've done that several times. There's a complete stranger walked up behind me.
I didn't even know they're there I just also gonna just kind of click and I turn around look at this girl and I go excuse me You need this you need this don't right here, right? I asked her to pick it up first and I'm like Like you feel anything from that and usually it's 99% of the time I get a yes It's very it's not very often that someone says not a funny thing of this But I said I told the girl I'm like I don't work here I don't make money off of this but you should buy the stone it wants you to buy it and then I just turn it I walked away that's cool came back about half our later friend of the S He was kind of if you have first but she didn't end up buying it So you can contact him at Tim at wisps.org and arrange a session with him for stone spring come down here to hands office We could pick out some stones now real quick and I'm gonna throw this out here I'm gonna do some business right on there because I'm too lazy to do business off the earth That's how we roll and this is the place we need to do this do said business now our next show Do we have a topic like that for negative fantastic and that's why I knew I thought I'd ask right here We've got a week and a half by the time they show errors to come up with a new topic and we're gonna put out there To you the listeners will put a Facebook post out there, but we want what do you guys want to talk about? What do you guys want to hear about let us know and if you if someone comes up with a topic that sounds interesting? Or that everybody seems to want to hear about we will that will be our topic cool.
You okay with that? Yeah, I think it's a great idea. All right, so we'll do it. We'll put a post out tonight and You know that in June on June 8th chip coffee is gonna be in town.
Oh no very cool. I'm excited I like I already can't get the day off work because it's two people have the vacation on already But I have got to my supervisor and be like I'm gonna be sick on this day what they work or what day of the week is It's a Friday night. Yeah, but if you don't know who chip coffee is looking to it. He's he's a lot with children Famous a psychic medium another used him a little bit on the show paranormal state and ever since I saw that show I think he was the only legitimate thing on the show.
I think the rest of the show stage, but I think him personally It's someone that I've been really looking forward to meeting. I think it's pretty funny because Karen Baldwin actually just about I mean I've never seen her get that giddy. She's excited. So if you get a chance, I know that he's doing two shows that night We've got October 20th that John Holland.
I don't know if any of you guys even know who that is But he's coming in town for time. It's not like ever and I know we're like 10 months out I know but it's that import it's October 20. Yeah, that's gonna say for the time I'll like to explore six Whis will be there. Yep.
Yes, Whisps is yeah We've got a heck of a lineup this year for everybody I think there's gonna be a special guest paranormal investigator that's gonna be doing investigation with Wisps on the Fifth Locktobers well, and I'm thinking at our June 9th March of the aliens I think we've confirmed don't hold me to it, but your guy that you like John's office, uh-huh bad I'll be there. Yeah, now we're a lot of exciting stuff coming out here And we haven't really put it out there But universal promotions is the group that brought in Elizabeth Saint that brought in Brian Cannell They're bringing in the big guest Ben Hanson been handsome coming with which was he coming from March of the alexoram's coming for October He's actually gonna conduct an investigation. He's our special guest investigation. Oh, you know what we need to do on the show You we've been taking after two years.
Okay, here's the here's the thing and Tim. You gotta hold this to hold me to this Hey, Anne, let's get Ben on the show It's gonna be quicker this way than if I put leave you to it. I don't know I just need to go come on friends with Ben. So let's do this our next show We're gonna open it up to whatever you the guests or you the listeners want to know the chef to that we will have been on That is my place to you and Tim is laughing because he's like yeah, right?
Let's check the calendar here So we're gonna shoot Tim Ben on I have to get in touch to make sure that he is able to but we'll Skype in Ben There you go Right Tim's checking the calendar Well, where are we looking? We're looking at the 18th of February. Okay, I will get in contact and we will try and have Ben on Off for the 18th. So that's it.
We've got a little over. That's one would be recording. Yes, it'd be the Wednesday after that Anyway, thanks a bunch everybody for tuning in. Hopefully you learned something if you have more stones questions send them to us again practical magic And as already given our phone number if you want to do a stone list bring session contact him If you're looking for energy cleanse cleansing or guide meditation or readings or anything like that I highly recommend and I've been working with her for the past couple weeks now And I think I think I don't know how you feel, but I think we've made a lot of progress in our sessions Well, you just a intuitively figured out who was in our presence tonight versus just feeling that their spirits here This is true.
There's there's a woman in her energy room over here And I actually I can't see her but I did kind of it popped my head like what color dress she was wearing More than I can just kind of feel that there's the energy and sometimes I could pick out the gender But this is one of the first times where without closing my eyes trying to focus I was actually able to tell what they were wearing as well, which was kind of cool nice Alright, well, we're gonna call it a night everybody and we will be back two weeks from now. Thank you guys Have a good night. Have a great day. Bye.
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