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Ghislaine Maxwell, Immunity Games, and Trump’s DOJ: What’s Really Going On?

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As President Donald Trump fends off critics of his administration’s handling of the Jeffrey Epstein sex trafficking of minors’ case, new attention is swirling around Epstein’s co-conspirator Ghislaine Maxwell, who was convicted as a conspirator in 2022. She has been interrogated for a day and a half by Trump’s former defense attorney and now Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche. She has been subpoenaed to testify before the House Oversight Committee. She has filed a sudden appeal of her conviction to the U.S. Supreme Court, and she has been transferred to a minimum-security federal prison camp in Texas as she serves her 20-year sentence for sex trafficking of minors. At the center of this Maxwell maelstrom are legal terms that many people do not understand such as “immunity,” “limited immunity,” “absolute immunity,” “clemency,” “pardon” and “commutation.” What do these terms mean, in everyday language? For example, Maxwell was given “limited immunity” to talk with Deputy Attorney General Blanche. Her defense attorney has demanded that she receive “immunity” before she testifies before Congress. And Maxwell’s appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court concerns whether she was immune from prosecution by an earlier Epstein agreement with the federal authorities. Meanwhile, her attorney has said that she would cooperate fully with the government if she received “clemency” from President Trump in the form of either a “pardon” or a “commutation” of her sentence. Retired judges Gayle Williams Byers and Thomas Hodson break down these terms into understandable bites on this episode of their podcast Next Witness…Please. They delve into legal strategies in play and talk about what might happen as this legal drama continues to unfold.

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