Come, walk down the winding path, don't mind the spooks and monsters, they stay hidden within the trees. There are mysteries in this world that you need to know, and paranormal truths that need to be told. Come, step up into the caravan, while we share tales of old, as well as new accounts about things you thought only existed in your nightmares. So you want to talk about ghosts?
I do, of course. I'm excited. I'm excited. I know.
Well, so I have a couple of different stories that happen to me. Well, first, I was living in Arizona for a while, and I went to the Copper Queen. Have you ever heard of the Copper Queen? No, I haven't.
Okay, it's a hotel in Bizbee. I got really intrigued. It wasn't far from where I lived, and I read a whole article about it being sold with ghosts. And so I was like, wow, it would be cool to stay there.
So in February 2009, I planned a weekend, and I specifically asked the hotel, you know, what room is, had the most activity. I know, they recommended a room called the Julia Lowell room, and they said that that one had the most activity. So I said, if it's available, I'll take it. It was, and so they booked it.
So I was pretty nervous, and we were going up there, because I didn't know what to expect. The hotel is very unique, because it was built in, it was started in 1898, and it was built by Belts Dodge Mining Company. And it didn't get completed until 1902, so there's a lot of history there. And it's a 48 Victorian-style roomed hotel, and they built it specifically for investors and dignitaries.
Wow. Yeah, so they had a lot of traffic, a lot of famous personalities that stayed there. So in each room is like different. Each room is like Victorian film.
They all have private baths. And they're all a little bit different. So anyway, the Julia Lowell room, actually the ghost hunters, filmed an episode there. And they have the DVD in that room, so you could watch it.
Are you serious? So we, I watched it, and that guy, I think his name was Zach. Is that the guy that was in the ghost hunters? It was Zach.
It sounds familiar. Yeah, I think his name was Zach. Well, he was, there was a scene that could have totally freaked me out, that he was laying on the bed, and this Julia Lowell actually committed suicide in the Copper Queen Hotel. And they said that the reason she committed suicide is because she was a prostitute.
And she used the hotel for her clients, and apparently the story goes is that she felt madly in love with one of her clients, and that when she told him that she, that she loved him and wanted to be with him, he didn't want to see her anymore. Yeah, so she took her own life at the hotel, so that's the story on her. And so throughout the years, I guess hotel staff and people that stay near that room on the third floor have seen, like, apparitions of females, and, you know, dressed in Victorians, and they assume that it's her, and they also hear female voices, and apparently she likes to play around with the men, like, goof around with their feet and stuff. Well, in the DVD, he was sleeping on the bed, Zach, and all of a sudden you see the blanket being pulled off of them.
Really? Yeah, it's nothing around him, and I know DVD, and actually, when I thought I was like, oh, maybe I shouldn't be staying in this room. Oh my god, well, yeah, that's, like, really intense activity to be at the point where you could actually move something, not much. Oh, exactly.
So, anyway, so we were in the room, and I was kind of like, I didn't go to sleep, obviously. Yeah. I kept, like, trying to stay awake, and I didn't really see any activity in the evening, but something weird happened in the morning, and it was very strange. My husband was in the shower, and I told him that I was going to go downstairs and get some coffee for us, and bring it up.
So, while he was in the shower, I went downstairs, I came back upstairs, and both faucets in the kitchen, it was a double sink, were running, and I was like, why did he have a faucet running? So, I'm like, excuse me, Andy, I go, why did you turn on the faucets and leave them running? Because I didn't do that. I thought you did that.
Oh, my gosh. You could, oh, come on. You're kidding me. And I'm like, no, I'm not.
I'm just kidding. Coffee. So, that kind of was like creeping me on. I'm like, how did those faucets get out?
I was like, I had a look at the hallway to see if there was a maid or something that came in and was playing a joke, but there was nobody in the hall. Yeah, that was pretty freaky. Yeah, apparently that hotel has like three different ghosts in it. You know, there's an older gentleman, I guess, who is long here in a beard, who gets, can smell the aroma of his cigar.
Oh, an important safety. And then that's your little, you know, been seeing, probably. And then I guess there was a little, a little boy that apparently drowned in the Pager River that, you know, gets guests, you know, have heard giggling in the halls and stuff. Yeah, so it was pretty cool.
It was a cool experience. And it was a lot of fun. Yeah. It was room 315.
So if anybody wants to go to Busby, it's 315. So yeah, so it was a lot of fun. And then my second experience, where after I came back, I told my two teenagers about, you know, what happened. Of course, they were like so intrigued.
They're like me. They're like, we want to go to another ghost thing like that. Sorry. I haven't done that.
I know. I was in the internet. I looked up haunted hotels in the Arizona area. Well, what came up was the Jerome Grand Hotel and that's in Jerome, Arizona.
So I asked them if they wanted to go there, like in July and stay the weekend and do a ghost tour because they have ghost tours up there for the weekend. That's cool. And I know. So I was like, oh, excited.
And they were all excited. So I booked it. And so we went up there. And the history of the Jerome Hotel.
I don't know if you know anything about it. Okay. Well, it was originally a hospital. It was called the United, yeah, it was called the United Birthday Hospital.
So right there in itself, you know, that there's a lot of, you know, deaths involved because it was back in, you know, that time period. There was so many different, you know, things going on. It was like in the 1900s where they had so many diseases that allowed people to die. So about 9,000 people died in that hotel, in that hospital before became a hotel and they called it, you know, they closed the hospital.
And then it said, I know, then it said empty for many years, like an empty building until this father and son and brother opened, you know, bought it from the front. Believe it or not. Now, this I found really weird because I just found out this little piece of history is that the hotel and Disney was built by the Phelps Dodge mining company. The hospital was owned by the same company, the Phelps Dodge Corporation, which I find kind of weird.
So anyway, so the uncle and the brother and the son opened the hotel and it was boarded up for all those years. They bought it in 1994 and they started refurbishing it. So when they started refurbishing it, they started hearing weird noises. They were hearing hospital like gurney noises going on hallways.
Yeah. And they were like totally freaked out. But then they're like, you know, what are we going to do? We can't open the hotel and, you know, tell people a taunted.
Well, that's when, you know, ghost hunting started becoming really popular. So what they decided to do was do the ghost tour. So what was so cool about this is that they really wanted you to document everything. So at the ghost tour, they hand you from the beginning of the ghost tour.
Like it starts like on Saturday and they want you to keep all this equipment through, like, your stay on there Monday when you check out. Oh, really? Yeah. And they want you to record everything.
Wow. Digital pictures, they give you a digital camera. They give you an EVP box. They give you an EMF meter.
And once they go through the whole ghost tour, you get to keep that and go around the hotel and explore and take pictures and do like, you know, use the EMF in the EVP box. Yeah. And after that, when you turn it in, they take all your stuff and they download all the info and they put it on a CD and they want you to go through. Yeah.
If you see something, they want to document it because they want to make sure that it's documented that they have a hunting there. And so they have like a 300 page journal that is filled by all these people that have had different weird experiences. Now, I can't say that we had anything weird happen in our room, but we did have something weird happen to me when after the ghost tour ended, they told us, okay, you guys can go explore anywhere. Well, a couple weird things happened at that hotel when it became a hotel.
There was a former caretaker before it was bought and reopened up. That stayed at the hotel, so there was no looters. And he used to stay in the hotel by himself. But he was kind of like the town, I wouldn't say drunk, but he would go into town on Friday night after he stayed all week at the hotel by himself.
And he would like tie one in, you know, and sort of like, you know, at the town. So there was only one police officer who was a sheriff of the hotel. He, you know, knew him personally. And one night, he didn't show up.
And everybody thought that was weird. So they were like, I wonder what's wrong with him? Maybe sick or something. Well, another week went by, nobody saw him.
And the sheriff next Friday night, he didn't show up again. So the sheriff's like, no, I better go up and check on him. So he went up and checked on him. And he goes into the building and he's yelling out his name and stuff.
And I don't even know what his name is. But anyway, he was yelling out his name and he didn't hear him. He didn't hear him. And he looked and the basement area on the first level where his room was, he sees him standing there.
And he's like, what are you doing? And he didn't answer while he had hung himself. And his neck had stretched to the point. He was standing.
Yeah, very creepy. So, and then the other weird story that happened that nobody knows, you know, how this even happened was that one of the, oh, yeah, the caretaker's name was Claude Harvey. He was the maintenance man. And then there was another guy that was another person that was like taking care of the elevator.
And he was working on the elevator in 1935. And the elevator came down and crushed him. Yeah, it was, yeah, very weird stuff. But the fact that, you know, it was a hospital and there was over 9,000 deaths there through all those old and different things that were going on.
There were totally different things going on there. But anyway, so what happened to us was we got all our, you know, camera and EDP thing and the hotel front desk guys, I asked them, I said, well, can we go back there where that Clarence guy hung himself and kind of explore that area. Now, there was no lights on back there. You know, they're just kind of like lighting from the hallway.
And he's like, yeah, you can go back there. Just use your flashlight. You know, so you don't hurt yourself. And that's okay.
So, I was going back. And I was going really slow because I was offering jobs. And I couldn't feel my heart racing and stuff. And I'm like, you know what?
I was kind of creeping me out. Maybe we shouldn't be back here. And I was about to turn around and all of a sudden a computer screen. And that's like lit off.
He goes, are you there? And I looked at the screen and said, are you there? Oh my gosh. And I go running out of the front desk at the hotel thinking that the guy at the front desk was playing a joke on me, you know, like, you know, make me scared.
And he was out smoking a cigarette. And I said, oh, did you just go on the computer and come out running out here? And he goes, what are you talking about? And I go, well, the computer went on there in the room and it says, are you there?
He goes, oh, that must be called. You must be like playing with you. I go, come on. You did that.
That was an end. You're like, you know, you're smoking cigarettes. My break. Okay.
That's weird. You better write that down in the book in the counter. Oh my goodness. It's too weird.
Wow. That was an experience. Well, geez, first off, you are much braver than I am because, I mean, I went to that hotel, the McMiniman's one that I posted pictures of in that little video clip. And, you know, it was the Masonic home for the elderly and then it got turned into the hotel and it just doesn't have, when you walk in, it's just kind of like a comforting feeling.
But there's also that old-fashioned feeling. And I didn't know that it was haunted because it was a local place. So I've grown up going there. And it was, I eventually learned when I was like 16, 17 that had this haunted aspect to it.
Well, McMiniman's has a, you know, it goes around and it'll buy buildings that it'll refurbish. And they have that reputation of being haunted. I really, to go to a hotel that was part of something like a, like a hospital. I think I'd be terrified to even visit during the day.
It was really creepy. And what was really even more creepy here was reading the journals, you know, like the notes that people took, you know, as that thing that happened. Like, I just, I spent hours like sitting in there in the lobby just reading it. I couldn't like tear myself away from it.
Like, there was one instance where a little girl had a teddy bear. And every time they went back to the room, it was moved to a different spot. And they thought it was, they thought it was the cleaning person doing it. And the cleaning person was like, no, I've never, I haven't even been in your room.
Oh, wow. Yeah. I mean, it was just like, I was like in thralls. You know, I really like, I'm like, oh my God, all these like things that happen here.
I mean, it was great. It was like really. Yeah. Yeah.
McMiniman has a ghost log as well. And it's fascinating to read through that and to see what these other people are experiencing. And it's so interesting. One of the things that you're talking about was the scent of the cigar.
One of the things that they talk about with McMiniman's is the scent of lavender and they call her the lavender lady. Wow. So it's amazing to me that hauntings can be like their smells that go along with them. Yeah.
That's so odd. Isn't it? I find it so odd. Like, how do they actually do that?
I mean, like, how does the spirit actually create a scent? Right. That means really, like how would you even answer that? That's so bizarre.
Well, exactly. Because it's like, in some way, I guess I can justify the movement from maybe an energetic thing so that they're made of energy. And then, I mean, if everything's made of energy, then movement and, you know, that whole thing. But since that, it just seems like it's a different world.
Yeah. Yeah. Totally. Like it's a different, like they're on a different plane.
I almost believe that, well, obviously your soul lives on in the spirit world, but there's another realm to it. Like, like another dimension for them to be able to like interact with our dimension. So because, I mean, I really am a firm believer in spirits and ghosts and things like that because they're unexplained. And so often you, you know, have a medium who can actually speak to them and stuff and have, you know, be a filter.
And they're there. It's not like they're not talking to, they're making it up, you know, because, I mean, some mediums are fine, but for the most part, some of them are real and they can like hear those voices. I don't know what I would do if I actually heard voices. I think I would be like, I would like have to do an exorcism on myself.
Yeah. You know, there was one time that, I mean, it just gives me chills. They hear a whisper in my ear and it was my name and it was a man's voice. Wow.
Nobody was there. I was, I was by myself and I still, it's just, you know, and then I think that I've mentioned this before on the show too, that there was one warning that my girls and I were asleep in my room. And we heard a man's footsteps and I heard his voice, my husband's voice say my name. And it's just, it's the most hair raising thing because it's, it's as real as the chair that you're sitting in, you know.
Right. It's not. Yeah. And it is.
It's really freaky. Well, I remember specifically, you know, that my grandmother, when she was close to passing, she was in a hot bus. And I remember going to visit her. And I remember she was still pretty lucid, but she was failing quickly.
And I remember saying to me, Kathy, she's like, who is the lady in the corner that keeps smiling at me? And I went through my house. And I was, and I'm like, can I see a lady there? I'm like, I don't see anything there.
I'm like, I don't know, who do you see? And she goes, I don't know. She goes, there's some lady in the corner. And she keeps smiling at me.
And then I didn't know what to say. And I'm like, oh, I go, she's just, you know, making sure you're okay. And she's like, I was like, I was like, I'm on a go. Okay, mom, that was a little freaky.
I don't know if she was hallucinating or if there was really somebody standing in the corner. Wow. Well, yeah, that's amazing. It's.
Yeah. Full in the room. Exactly. Exactly.
Well, I'm so glad that I got to finally talk to you, you know, about all this little stuff. And I will tell you that me and my friend, Erin, we're planning a little adventure. We're going to go to a place in Tampa called the Oakland Cemetery. It's in the middle of Tampa.
And apparently it's, you know, got a lot of old souls there and supposedly it's haunted. So I will let you know if I find any experiences. I'll make sure I bring a little recorder just in case, you know, anything. I was just going to say definitely do a recorder take pictures.
I would love to be able to check it out with you. Amazing. Okay. Awesome.
Cool. Yeah. I'd love to do that. Well, thank you so much.
No, this has been really awesome and we'll definitely have to have you back on too. Well, thanks. I love to. It's been fun.
I love every night when I go to bed. I turn on one of your episodes and I will do it. Yeah, it's awesome. Thank you so much.
Yeah. You're doing a great job. I love it. Oh, well, thank you.
It's definitely it's a passion. You know, it's been a lot of fun. And I'm really hoping to, you know, there's, I've, I got a car now and I just did a job interview yesterday. I know that's awesome.
Yeah. Just lots of new beginnings. And I'm hoping that from, from this new experience, um, that it'll give me the ability to actually travel to more of the haunted locations that are around here and start, you know, maybe going live and recording some stuff and just being able to have more content for the shows. Yeah.
That's great. Well, that's also a good thing. Coming your way. That's awesome.
Yeah. Thank you so much. We have a wonderful night and we will talk again real soon. Okay.
Sounds good, Jennifer. Have a great day. Bye. Bye.
Watch your step. Let's move on. Later. Quality underneath your last breath.
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