Ghost Towns

In the dead of night as people sleep, that is when the spirits creep. As the bell tolls three dark things take power, we like to call it the supernatural hour. And now, welcome to the supernatural hour. This is Doc.

This is Chad. I'm Rogue. Klaus is not with us today. He should be with us next time next time.

He just had something going on tonight. But hey, we'd like to welcome you all here today. Thanks for joining us. So for the business, we're still working on our YouTube channel.

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We're looking forward to that. We've got an upcoming event at the Barbra Coast Saloon. It's our witch and hour event. Yeah.

We'll be starting at 1.30 AM. That's actually Saturday morning. So think of it as Friday night through to Saturday morning so that you don't get it wrong and go to 4 AM. It's really exciting witching hour.

Give us some more information about the witching hour, Raven. So witching hour is 3 AM. And that's when activity tends to get a little more ramped up. Not necessarily every time, but a lot of the times.

The few witching hour events I've been to. Usually the activities is pretty open. Yeah. And if we could get it to rain that night just a little bit.

There's an outside section of this. So hopefully it doesn't rain too much. Isn't it like a cross memorial or something with? Yeah, next door river.

Should be really active. You can get your tickets for that by going out to events. We're going to go out and get tickets right there. So go out and get them.

We're limited on the tickets. We're going to have only 25 available. And at this point we've already sold 11 of them. If you want to come, come early.

Book it soon. Cedar Hills, Utah is having their yearly parade. It's going to be June 5th at 10 AM and we're going to be an entry in the parade. We're in it.

We're looking forward to it. It's going to be fun. So if you want to come out and meet and see us, we'll be in the parade. We'll also have a booth at their little carnival where they call it when they have all the booths together.

At the boutique. Cedar Hills, boutique. Market. All the stuff.

Well, hopefully I will lean it because I'm going to be in the pipe band at the start of the parade. Hopefully I can do both. You might see me halfway through the parade running, sweating, tired. Busy woman.

Busy woman. We're looking forward to that. Rogue, what have we got going for residential? Well, it's been a little bit quiet.

I think everybody's kind of getting out a little bit, getting out of town with the holidays, camping. The COVID let up a little bit. COVID let up so people were getting out of the house. All right.

So we headed out to Salt Lake County, which is always my favorite. Shorter driving distance purely is really the only difference for me. But we went and we paid a visit to our little Mexican grandma. She is just a wonderful person.

It's the first time I've met her. So if you're not sure who we're talking about, if you've heard us talk about our different typing that we do within Wisps, the type one, type two, type three, it's because of this cute little grandma that we came up with this because someone may have scared to live in daylight instead of her when I told her she had a demon in her house. So when we left, we said, you know, maybe we should come up with some code names so that we don't scare our clients. Tell them what's going on and what's actually there.

But we like to ease that. But we like to help them understand what that is rather than just go, you got the demons. That's kind of what I did. That can be blunt.

So we'll let them know what it is. But we, you know, when we're talking about it and ask what's going on, then we can kind of prepare them for that information. So she's kind of Wisps lore in a way, lore, legend. She's a legend, but she is the sweetest woman you've ever met.

She is. And I don't think that I've been in another house that had so many religious symbols. A wall that's just a monumental wall with rosaries and crosses. There's a couple of them.

One in the living room, one in her room. Didn't she say she collected them? Yes. Different cathedral she's been to and different places.

Actually, that was me. When I asked her where she collected hers from, she told me off the internet. Oh, that's right. I was like, oh, okay.

So I was expecting a little bit more from that. She has a little home-bound from her. She is. We found out that she's not in the greatest of health.

So when we visited with her, she wasn't able to join us on the walkthrough. However, in the walkthrough, we found a doll that we later found out that her brother had made. And this doll had a creepy presence just attached to it. But we were able to take care of that.

Castle had been so proud of me. Usually he homes in on those little attachments just immediately. And I'm clueless. An attachment can like tap down some of my forehead and it'll take me forever.

But something about that doll just kind of drew us into this. As soon as we walked through that room, into that room, we both was drawn right to that doll. And she had a couple of dolls in the room. And the doll that had the attachment was creepy.

Yes. So there were some creepier dolls in there. There were. And if you actually check us out on TikTok, you can see a picture of the creepy doll that we are referring to.

Cool. Yeah. But she did. She had a doll that was a Halloween decoration that was a creepy sailor doll.

Still in the box. Still in the box. I did take a picture of it. We'll have to get that posted.

And you would have thought that that would have been the haunted doll, but it was not. This one's almost as a doll. Yeah. Mary and I kind of a gypsy looking sparkly eyed.

That was the one the brother made. No one the brother made. However, we left and it didn't have a demon attached to it. It did not have a demon attached to it.

Not even attached to it. I think it was more just the negative energy, wasn't it? Well, we found a four hole underneath the, underneath her bed. The very bed she was sleeping in.

Yeah. So this poor woman that has all of these health issues has a portal underneath her bed. Literally sleeping inside of a negative portal. Yeah.

So we closed that up for her. We tightened up the yard and we left and she left and off we go. So we wish her the best. And I hope to hear from her again just because she is who she is.

We want to hear from her. She's amazing. We love her. Yes, we do.

So we do have two residential is coming up in the work. So we'll have a couple more to talk about on our next podcast. We are. We are headed to Utah County this coming Saturday.

So we're going to talk about the pasting again. Yes, because you thought it was like super creepy and this is the second time we will have gone to Payson and like what this last month? The Payson's again. Spooky Payson.

Okay. So we are going to talk about ghost towns for you today. And this episode is brought to you by one of our insiders. They requested we talk about ghost towns and which insider was that?

You remember? I can see their faces. Foster's. Yes.

Okay. That's what I thought. Yes. And the thing about our, if you guys are listening and if there's something that you just said yourself, I really wish they would talk about this.

Let us know. Just shoot us an email and we'll put it down. There's, there's no real rhyme nor reason to our topics. We try to spread it out so we don't talk about people every time or places every time.

But we can, we can throw something in that you want to hear. Otherwise you get to hear what I want you to hear. Well, and even on the topic of ghost towns, you know, you can go, you can take that in several different directions, but we'll kind of start off and see where it goes, I suppose. So we're not going to talk in depth about any particular ghost town because that can be a whole episode in and of itself.

So we're just going to kind of talk about, I mean, we will touch on a couple, but we're just going to kind of talk about them in general. And I'll just say, Foster's. I am fascinated by ghost towns as well. I love ruins.

I love old abandoned things. And this is just the quintessential ruins old abandoned things because that's pretty much what a ghost town is. It is an abandoned town. Now living out west, I think we are pretty lucky to be surrounded by a lot of ghost towns.

Well, and even just driving around, you know, you drive to, because Utah's pretty big. It's like the 10th biggest state of the nation, I think. And, you know, it's three hours to drive to Moab. It's four hours to drive here.

And there's just little abandoned buildings and places everywhere. So for me, I've just grown up with it. And Utah has a real history of mining. There's a lot of mining that goes on in the state.

And there were a lot of very successful mines that worked for a few years. And people would come in and it was amazing. It's like Mercury, you know, it kicked up and it got up to around, I think it was 15,000 people. And then it dries up and goes away because the work dries up.

And that's the case with a lot of it. And we'll talk about some of those different mining camps and towns that were ghost towns and, you know, had some significant populations and significant buildings. And now, you know, some of them there aren't any buildings left. Some of them there aren't any buildings left.

Some of them in the buildings have been abandoned. They're not anything there. But it's amazing. But we do in Utah have a lot of those.

And there's a lot throughout the West in Colorado and California and Nevada. Again, because of the mining, you know, a real thriving community started and got going. And then the reason that the community is there peered out, you know, that there were dried up, things weren't available anymore and everybody just packs up and goes somewhere else. Right.

So I looked up on the Oracle of Knowledge of Wikipedia. And, you know, just to kind of get a start. And what is a ghost town? So a ghost town, obviously, is a deserted city or an abandoned city.

They usually contain some substantial, visible remaining buildings and or infrastructure like roads. You know, maybe some power lines of it's because there are some newer ones. But it's not just a totally abandoned city. It could be a standing city that just has such large areas of abandonment.

For example, they named Detroit. As a ghost town. As a ghost town. Because there's so many areas that are just completely abandoned to the point that they describe some of the areas as, and I wrote it down, I can't find it, as almost looking wilderness-like in Detroit, which used to be the fourth largest city in the United States back in the 1940s at the height of the, of the audio industry.

But you go there now and there's several places. And I personally was in downtown LA, this would have been in the late 1990s, but just driving down a block or two, almost every building was abandoned, you know, in this one area. And I remember thinking this is LA for heaven's sakes and there's, you know, a whole block or two of abandoned buildings. That's good role.

I remember thinking, I mean, there's a big library was there and hotels were there that we were staying in, but then just a whole couple blocks of nothing. Interesting. So a lot of times the causes for these are economic chaos, you know, the economy just tanks. And that's going to be, you know, like the mining, you know, the mining dries out or natural or human disasters.

Like, like a nuclear meltdown? Would you call your noble a ghost town? Yes, you would. And a disaster.

Government actions? Sorry for the pause, I was trying to read my own handwriting. I usually typed it and printed off, but I did it by hand today. Uncontrolled lawlessness or pollution.

Doc, you're aware of some places with pollution and ghost towns? Yeah, well, one of the places that aren't ghost towns with pollution too. I don't know if people know this, but I lived in the Earl Mountains and in western Siberia. And there are a couple of cities there that are still populated, but are disaster sites.

The one that was closest to me was called Karabash. And it's a dying town. There's not a lot of people there, but they do copper smelting and the amount of pollution there is just insane. So they really don't follow the EPA guidelines?

In fact, you can see the rivers just run red with byproducts from copper smelting. It's pretty nasty. There's a giant mountain of slag right in the middle of the town. Mercury levels in the soil are 20 times higher than a lot by Russian law, which is a lot more lax than US law.

And so it's a dying town. People are getting leukemia and all sorts of different types of cancers. And over time, unless they do something about it, I don't know how sustainable it is there. And then there was also a place, an area called Muslimana, which is the city that was closest to the Mayak power facility.

And the surrounding area has pretty much been abandoned because there's a lake there that has about 10 times more radiation than Chernobyl when it exploded. And that's a baseline. So about a 30 minute walk on the shoreline can give you a lethal dose of radiation. Oh, yeah.

We want vacation in there. Not a place to hang out. So towns and cities around there are kind of abandoned? Yeah.

Well, you know, four years and years and years, they were dumping nuclear waste into this lake and it was running downstream and all the villagers were drinking it and had no clue what was going on. And the Soviets didn't want to disclose to people what was going on. So they just kept it secret for decades. You know, finally things are starting to come out because of all of the different illnesses and whatnot that's now, you know, being seen there.

Well, looking around online, you know, you can probably find different things depending on the site. But there were several sites that said Pripyat, Ukraine, was the most famous. And I don't know if it was because of the size. It said it was home to 50,000 people who were evacuated in 1986 because of Chernobyl.

So, yeah, that one, you know, the Soviet Union wasn't able to hide that because there were, you know, a giant cloud of detectable radiation sweeping over Europe. There wasn't any way that they could keep that secret. Well, that was amazing. Was it the Norwegians?

Yeah, at least so. That called them up and I mean, they were able to track it so well. The Soviets and they said, we think you've got, and I don't know the exact terms, but we think that there's problems with your reactor number 12. Everything okay?

We've been pointed to this. You know, where I was at is deeper in the old mountains further from Europe and they were able to keep a lot of that stuff concealed and so they didn't necessarily, they didn't up relocating the population after a while, but they never really disclosed. You know, why? Why they were doing it?

And now you're moving. And doctors were not allowed to put cancer as a diagnosis on anybody who fell ill or died. Interesting. If there was an interesting, was it an afflict show that we watched a few years ago or so?

Like at the time, it's called Chernobyl. Yeah. That was really a very, very interesting documentary. And I hear it's quite accurate.

I mean, there's of course some, you know, Hollywood brought into it, but a lot of the things were quite accurate and very interesting on, you know, the investigations that went on to try to figure out what's going on. And like I said, the Norwegians and the different people that were able to identify down to which reactor was having the problem because they could read the characteristics of the radioactive isotopes. Right. And I think it was fairly recent because back in the day, I don't think people really took pollution into consideration as to whether or not a place was suitable to live and work.

Right. You're looking at most of them are, you know, old western mining towns. Right. Yeah.

And they didn't have the ecological issues around them. And for most of them, the mines petered out before, you know, the toxicity got to that point. And I'm sure that was very toxic because they weren't taking care of things the way they needed to. But a lot of times maybe it was a blessing that the mines didn't stay open as long because they weren't doing the things from an environmental standpoint.

And so maybe the people weren't getting that sick because they weren't as exposed as long. But we're going to come back to the ones in the west because, you know. Because we're in the west. Because we're in the west.

They're near and dear to me. But Doc mentioned in these ghost towns in Russia. And there are actually ghost towns on every continent, even Antarctica, which surprised me. And the one in Antarctica, it was built in 1906.

It was like Norwegian Chilean whaling company. And they built this little town called Deception Island. And it was actually quite profitable, clear up until the Depression. And it was abandoned in 1931.

And then what was left of it in 1969 was actually partially destroyed by a civil canic activity in the area. So everywhere you go in the world, there is a, even if you go to Antarctica, there's still ghost towns. Yeah, there was a really neat video I just watched about an island off the coast of Japan. And it's not a very big island.

But it was a major coal mine for Japan. And Doc and I watched a little bit of that this afternoon. And it was just amazing on, you know, it ran for, you know, 30, 40 years. And the infrastructure was brought in big, big apartment complexes and everything.

And then it was like, no, we're done. No more. But it's very interesting to see what happens to an area when people aren't there to maintain it. And it doesn't take that long.

I mean, in a few decades, you can see that there's just vegetation all over the place. Well, and then the interesting thing is that not only is it, you know, a completely abandoned town, but it can even like we were talking about Detroit. I fell to mention cities like Deadwood and Tombstone are also considered ghost towns just because their population is so much smaller. Much smaller.

Exactly, because I was like Deadwood. I was just there. Like last year, I was like a very thriving little town, but I wasn't there in the height of the mining in the 18, whatever. Right, but their economy is so much more dependent on tourism now than the original purpose of the town, right?

Go in January. I'll bet it's a ghost town. Probably. There's a ski resort over there, sir.

I'll have you know. Well, when we were there, it was in the height of the Sturgis. Like rally? Like rally.

And so there were gob-tons of people there. It didn't feel ghostly. No, no, but it was awesome. So much fun.

So before we dive into some of these more western ones, the question that I'm sure is on everybody's mind and waiting with Bader's Wrath. Are they legal to explore? And the answer is yes, you can explore them. At least in the US, the federal law says that you can look, you can take pictures, but you will be fined or imprisoned if you dig holes, even small ones, or remove anything from them because they're considered archaeological sites.

And there are several that are on the National Historic Register. So no metal detecting if you go to these places, you can cruise around and explore all you want, but you're not taking anything home that you get in trouble. So when I was... I don't vandalize either because you're just a jerk.

Right. Well, a couple of things with that. One, I've seen where people were taking stuff from places and returning it because they were getting haunted. We're getting bad luck.

But I was watching some guy on YouTube who bought a ghost town, Sarah Gordo, and he is living up there and he is restoring it. And I think he's turning it into like bed and breakfast. And it was kind of fun watching his channel. It's called Ghost Town Living.

And what he's doing with this ghost town is pretty awesome. I have a whole list of ghost towns that are for sale. We will get to that. You know what I want from my birthday now?

A ghost town. A ghost town. I love it. We just got chickens.

And now you're getting a ghost town. I'm gonna pony. I kind of commandeered book. I heard just a little bit of something that's my ghost town.

Rogue, you were talking about the curse. So the most famous, and this surprised me, the most famous ghost town in the United States, which I thought would be something like Tombstone or something, is actually Bodey, California. I'm like, it can't be the most famous. I've never heard of it.

I've never heard of it. It's not famous. But apparently other people have. But there's a thing called the Curse of Bodey.

And the Curse of Bodey just is, if you steal stuff from it, you're cursed until you think about it. Don't take stuff from ghost towns. And Bodey is at like 8,000 feet. So you'd have to hike up into it.

That's not something you're just gonna run across. Yeah, it's not something. It's like a California State Park now. And I think there's, I don't know, I think it's a protected by California State law.

It's also, so Bodey was on the list. It's also the oldest ghost town. Texas has the most. Texas has 511.

But Bodey is the most famous in the US and the oldest in the US. It was founded in 1876 by some miners. They mined gold and silver there. And about at the height of Bodey's prosperous times, they said they had about 2,000 people a day.

Miners just flocking there to mine the gold. And it got to, in the 1870s, about 10,000 people. Well, didn't they say that the war was like 99.5% pure. That's why everybody was going crazy for that one little vein that was up there that they were all going after.

And then after it was gone. It was gone. And then it kind of survived for a long time because of the railway that went through there. In 1917, they closed the railway and actually scavenged the rails for the war effort.

And then in 1942, because of the war, it closed and it just never reopened. And I do have a note here that it says that in 1962, California made up a state park. That's good. Bodey Ghost Town State Park.

I was going to have a look up. When I see pictures of it, there's quite a few of the buildings still standing. Yeah, and in really good shape, huh? Yeah.

It's kind of neat when they're the ghost towns and the buildings are still viable. Right. It sounds like Bodey doesn't seem as touristy to me as like a deadwood or tombstone or Calico. Or Calico.

Yeah, I was just kind of rebuilt on the way to Disneyland. I don't know. But, you know, that's... You done Calico?

I don't think so. Calico Ghost Town. I was like 12. So that was a long time ago.

I like the numbers. It's on I-15. I rode off I-15 down by Yermo, California. Go, Yermo.

It's very cool. It's a very cool little ghost town. But it's very commercialized. It's more of a commercialized ghost town than you go and explore ghost town.

If I remember correctly, it's owned by like the people who own like the Guinness World Records or Ripley's Believe It or Not or something. I think they put some money into Calico. So ghost towns are going to be in three categories. So they're either going to be a tourist attraction, which sounds like Calico is.

They're just going to be forgotten somewhere abandoned or someone has purchased them. So again, I'll put this coming up. Here's a list. Ready?

Spring Canyon Utah, 100 acres near Helper has the mining town. It was gutted by fire and it is... Oh, tons of ghost sightings there. A lot of ghost sightings.

Helper seems like a pretty paranormal area anyway from our experience. He drives through Helper and you can just... There's lots of ghost. You got the fields.

You can feel them. But it's only 199,000. Wow, for 10 acres? 100 acres.

100 acres. Is there any water and stuff? Is there buildings? There's crispy ones from the fire.

My favorite. No, I'm sure if you looked at it more, we could find a little bit more about it. Googlers, we're going to be on Googlers. Yeah, so Spring Canyon Utah and Helper is not that far.

No, Helper is not that far. It's pretty close. So Woodside Utah is another one. Now, this one boggles me because Woodside, we drive past this a lot on the way to Moab.

And all that I know of that's there is this gas station that looks like it was built in the 1960s. Maybe even 50s. And it's got... There's someone there in an RV that sells honey and drink.

Buffalo jerky. And it's still got the gas prices from like 1974. It's like 35 cents a gallon. I guess in the 70s, I might as well have a $100 down to a buck.

So it peaked in 1910 and it had a population of 328. It stayed open because of the railroad. And then 10 years later, it went down to 30, 30 people. I think the only people that live there now are the people that sell the jerky.

But if you want to buy Woodside, it's 3.9 million. What? Let's go buy the other one first. Well, it does have.

It's right next to, I think it's the Price River. It's a little river that goes by it as you cross. It's right there by the gas station and the jerky and all of that. So I don't know if you get water rights with that.

But for 3.7 million, I would hope you get water rights. You better get a bag of jerky too. That better come included. It's a monthly subscription.

Yeah, so Spring Canyon is closer. It's a lot more affordable. So we'll write that down for my list. Cerro Gordo, California.

It's actually sold. Oh, yeah, that was the one we were just talking about. It sold to a New Yorker in 2018. And it sold for 1.4 million.

Is that what he paid for that? 1.4. There are quite a lot of buildings with that, isn't there? No, there's there's quite a few.

Not a handful. I mean, if we can get there, or if Mr. 1.4 million dollar man will let you on the property. I believe he would.

For a price, I'm sure you can get on. I don't even think for a price. I think he lets people come up there. He wants to share it.

Because they said it was a very raucous city in the 1860s. Had 5,000 people live there. And they said at one point, and it's peak, there was one murder a week there. So there's probably lots of restless scars wandering around.

Yeah, let's go. So Cerro Gordo. We're going to stay in California and we're going to go to Swansea. This one sold in 2013 for 70,000.

So much better than Spring City, price-wise. But it sold. It was known for Silver Smelting. It has 33 acres.

There are shacks on a dry lake bed, which when LA started getting bigger, they drained the water from the lake for the big city. That's why I turned into a ghost town? Or was it that the mine dried up? It didn't really say.

We're taking this water. We're done. So I think between the mine probably drying up and the water drying up, they're like, okay, we're up. I can't survive.

Seneca, California sold in 2014 for 240,000. It was a gold mining town, had 12 acres. If that one comes back up on the market for any particular reason, you will literally get a gold mine because there's a gold mine on the property. It has a bar and it comes with a liquor license.

All right. So you can just get that party started. Perfect. Minerals are always worth money, regardless to how much our money is worth.

Okay, so we're going to head north. We're going to go to Milliken, Oregon. And I actually have a friend who's last time as Milliken, I asked if he was related. He didn't think he was.

This one is currently for sale, 1.5 million. You get a Cal ranch, a mine, 74 acres, a post office gas station, old stuff. I had 60 residents at his peak. And now it has an old store.

One person. That's a lot of work for one person to run around and be the mayor and the post man in the gas clerk. Yeah, I figure 60 residents and World War I started and everyone just said we're out. I don't know why.

I mean, if you buy a ghost town, are you automatically the mayor? I think you can vote yourself in. You're having an election with one vote. All right.

Sorry. If I buy a ghost town, I'm going to be the Supreme Emperor. There you go. Of course you are.

Supreme Empress of Spring Ghost Town. Supreme Empress of Spring City. Great. I like the ring of that.

That sounds nice. That's great. Better make that happen. I'm doing it.

Okay. So Colorado, when people say ghost towns, I think you talk like I live here. I also think Colorado. I would probably think Texas.

I'm totally down with Nevada. Nevada. Yes, Nevada is on the list. But we're going to go to Colorado.

Cabin Greek. This one sold in 2017 for an unknown amount. But at one point, it was on Craigslist for 350,000. On Craigslist.

It sounds legit. I'm wondering, you know, is that title Clerge? Is that a clear title? Did you meet in some random parking lot that like sell the deed pulled out of the trunk and be like, this is yours.

Yeah. It's kind of like buying stars and this guy and stuff. That one seemed a little sketchy to me. So if you own Cabin Creek, let us know how that's going.

Legend. Cabin Creek has a legend. Legend has it that in the 1970s, people fled to an unsolved murder. And if you go there, there is a gas station restaurant, a shooting range, two homes, and an eat room motel.

Oh. There's a motel even when? There's a hotel. But a non-vigor, so that could be crazy.

Okay. So there's also... In your say cycle? I know, right.

It's the Bates Hotel. It's formerly owned by Norman Bates and a company. Yeah. Okay.

So we're going to stay in Colorado. There's a ghost down there called Saint Elmo. And they're not selling Saint Elmo. They're selling Forest Service Road numbers or something or other.

And this one is cute. This is like this cute little- it looks like a little Western movie set or something. And so this one, we can put this on my birthday list because it's cute. And it's $84,900.

It's affordable. Much less than strength. I think we're going to need a few more patrons. I have to pay to go home.

I can't say that I haven't seen that happen on YouTube. Raven needs a Raven needs a go-stown. Come on, come on. Come on, get people.

And Rogue needs to explore an abandoned mansion. So let's get one in your go-star. Exactly. We'll have to go to Connecticut for that.

We'll get there. So for our service road. From what I understand with St. Elmo in Colorado, it went from about 1880 to 1952.

And it's at 9,961 feet elevation. So it's way up there. Yeah. And Forest Service Road.

And again, this listing is not for St. Elmo itself. This is like a little size service road. Fire destroyed the business section.

It had about 2,000 people at the end of the 19th century. There's a fellow by the name of Anton Stark, which kind of gives me some game of Thrones. Oh, I think you marvel. Iron Man.

Anton Stark. Finally won. I know. I know.

Are you sure this was a known by Iron Man? Either way, it was cool. So it's either owned by the Starks from Game of Thrones or Iron Man. But he moved to town in 1890.

Fire destroyed it. Everyone said 40 years later, the only people that still live there are descendants of the Stark family. And they believe that the daughter of Anton, who's the original founder, her name is Annabelle. They think that she haunts the town.

So see, it's haunted. It's affordable. We're going to wave with the name Annabelle. And that's what it said online.

I know. Winter is coming. Exactly. At 9,900 feet, it comes hard.

You bet your ass winter is coming. It comes early. It stays a long time. We'll have to invest in the fireplace.

OK, South Dakota. I would probably also think of ghost towns in South Dakota. Oh, yeah. It seems ghost town.

Yeah. Like deadwood. Deadwood being the notorious one, right? Right.

So this one's called Sweat. S-W-E-T-T. Sweat. Sweat.

It looks like Sweat to me. It's 250,000. It has six acres. It has a home, a tavern.

Sorry. In 2015, it was actually listed at 400,000. But because of the paranormal activity, they had to cut the press. Oh, yeah.

So I'm thinking. Swoop on down and steal that ghost town. I'm thinking as a ghost hunter, you're like, cheaper and haunted. Thank you.

Yes, I'll take it. Let's call him. I don't know. Same on the Forest Service Road was cute, and it's the cheapest.

OK. And it's 9,999. 20, 20. Winter is coming, guys.

That's OK. It can be a summer retreat for a month out of the year. OK. In terms of ghost towns, do you think that they're haunted?

What make what gives them that vibe? Is it just the fact that there was a whole lot of energy there at some point in time that has since been removed? Is it because of the events that took place? What is it that makes people go, oh, a ghost town?

I want to check this out. I think, first of all, for me anyway, I don't want to talk for everybody, but for me, it's called a ghost town. And so when you're little, that's a ghost town. The first thing that would come to my mind is, oh, there's ghosts that live there.

But I do think a lot of these were the old mining towns. The old mining towns, they would bring in women's for prostitutes because men had needs, and they're mostly miners. There's a lot of killings. I think just a lot of reasons to have some negative energy and just tense energy.

People were just trying to eat cat living and murders. Really emotionally charged. Yes. Things happening all the time.

Public hangings. I came across a lot of public hangings in the different towns that are now ghost towns. Yeah. And just lawlessness because these cities are just popping up.

Exactly. And you get some reckless named himself, Lana. And I'm sure they were some that were actual processes. But just that whole Wild West.

Kind of the happenings of the town is what kind of gives you the energy. I was just thinking you were talking about creepy dolls. And I thought one of the things that's weird about dolls is the fact that they look lifelike, but they're not living. And I didn't know if that same rationale could be applied to a ghost town where there was life there, but there's not life there now if that just adds to the energy or the spookiness.

Well, see, that's one thing that for me fascinates me about ghost towns because you go to, for example, Merkers Cemetery. You go there now and there's just this little dilapidated, sad, little cemetery. You have some picket fences around them. But it's been spruced up and had some paint out.

Yes, it did. Somebody did that. But at one time, it was a thriving city with 25,000 people. Where was the city?

So I think up the canyon further where you can't get to now. Yeah, you actually are blocked off from that. You go out and look at it at Google Earth. And there really is no remnants of the buildings.

But there were thousands of buildings and 25,000 people. It was one of the largest cities in the state. I think they said it was after Salt Lake and Provo was the third largest city in the state. And it burned down twice.

OK, so the buildings burnt down. They didn't all just go dilapidated and backed Earth. So it burnt down once. They rebuilt it and it burned down again.

And I don't think they rebuilt it after that. And I think the construction or the gold company may have actually gone in and cleaned up the debris. Because they still have operations and they had operations going there for time. And they still have the claim on the property.

Yeah, it's still working. You can't get up there. There's a road that has a gate that goes across it. So you can't get up to where the actual town site was.

You can get to the cemetery. But you've got to go further to get to the town site. And it's blocked off. And the mining company owns the property of the cemetery zone.

And they said, we don't care about the cemetery. As long as people can come and go to the cemetery, just do not go on mining property. Because if you do, they'll call the police on you. And they might just shoot you at it.

Because they own the land? And there's gold. They don't want to. Exactly.

They're still mining there. They don't want your claim jumping. And Merkers really interesting because, as you said, it kind of died once as it goes down and then came back to life and did that. And they had, it was the first place they did a certain mining thing to extract gold from the ore.

And it was the process that was done. And it was actually that process that made it possible for the reemergence of it. Because the ore wasn't as high in the concentration. And this was the first place that that process was used.

And now it's used all over the world. But Merkers was actually the first place that used that process to extract the gold from the mine. And it's used cyanide and some other things. And the other thing that I learned is they also mine Cinnabar up there.

And Cinnabar is the mineral from which Mercury is extracted. And therefore, the name Merker. Oh, there you go. The town name is where they got it.

It was from Mercury. So there's no buildings in Merker. But you do go to these ghost towns where there's nothing there, a few old buildings. And this is what I love about ghost towns and ruins, just in general.

As you look at these ruins, you look at this dilapidated falling down building with holes in the roof and the doors missing. And you're standing there and you're thinking at one point, that was a brand new building. And someone was very proud of that. And they were moving in.