Giant Bombcast 562: Super Dark Souls

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Yeah, I feel like there's like a dozen things to talk about Yeah, yeah a lot of stuff. Oh, yeah, a lot of stuff came out like the game awards Yeah, I like playing surprise launched and smash brothers came out and the whole new store stuff that yeah I think stuff that has been long and development just sort of dropped out of nowhere. Yeah, um, I guess we should talk about smash Yeah, that's we have not yet done super smash bros here. It's a real chore to unlock all those characters I let my copy run down there actually I have on the floor right now.

Does that do it? Sometimes like there's also like time put in through the game or you can rig the system if you turn it off and turn it on again I tape a button down or something now. Yeah, I wish I could I wish I could do that That would that would be simpler than than what's going on to me right now Like I've got like two or three like more characters to unlock and they're not popping up in the usual methods I don't know which ones they are. No, no, no, that's just like it's attacking.

You just play through over and over and get more characters There is a lot of different ways a lot of characters Pretty much almost everything to do in that game goes towards unlocking characters It's almost like a time. Yeah, the way reason people are trying to get off and on again because it'll disrupt the timer Yeah, it's usually a 10 minute timer. I see people say it measures button presses. Yeah, I've seen just all sorts of ways to tell you How to know?

Okay. Yeah, so there's there's like there's two guaranteed ways to unlock all the characters And that is either by playing through world of light, which is the single player mode, which we'll take a look Talk about it. That's all I need to say. That might as well be the only mode in that game as far as I'm concerned So I don't know and then somebody found that I saw on a Japanese side But basically so you got eight certain characters original eight from the original super smash How many are in the game like 70 something?

Everyone's there. What eight characters Yeah, I mean there's enough for sure to yeah And each of them if you play through on classic mode Works towards unlock so you can get all the characters through different combinations of playing that original eight through classic mode It's yeah, so I don't know I kind of like it I feel like it's a thing that only works in smash like no other fighting game can do this sort of thing Nothing that at least nothing that claims to be competitive Are you saying the smash players are apt to put up with more bullshit than other people? I mean they play smash brothers. So if it happens, I mean you come to this game for Nintendo bullshit Right.

Yeah, that's the reason you're here. I think so I know I end up buying the smash brothers over the weekend I do every goddamn time every time you don't like smashing your math that it's smash I don't know how many people I saw a litany of people on Twitter saying exactly that like I buy it every time I play for hours and never smash it again. Yeah, I don't know what's wrong with me That's that's the trajectory I'm on right now But also but that spirit mode actually might get me to play it a lot longer Uh, and I will say as someone who is like not a subscriber to Nintendo's online service Will probably never play against a human in this game. It's nice to have something to work for Yeah, like to have like these characters be unlockable and something like that because otherwise I would be looking like okay I don't all right.

I'm done. Everyone's here. Are the playable characters also spirits or the spirits are separate or can playable characters also act as spirits? No, or they're totally separate.

There's there's just like a buff system. Yeah, that's like spirit like revolve a lot. Yes Uh, that's sad. Okay.

Oh wait, that's a damn. Uh, it's an invisible fighter you play against. That's kind of joke. Is it?

Is it? Is it? Is it nester? Yeah, uh, don't go.

Yeah, don't go. I got the don't go spirit And then they're like primary spirits and the spirits you equip on the spirits to give All the way down, okay, uh, that's a lot But then like the spirits are just like hey, this is gonna put an attack number and a type on it So you can be like this is an attack spirit and I'm fighting a defense spirit So that's me curse wrong or whatever the Scissors e-fire emblem. Yeah, but it's trying both things kind of spirits. It's a cool idea.

Uh, so I don't know Yeah, I think that mode is clever and cute and all that stuff and it's full of a lot of cool little fan services things But what's different about it? Like what's what are you doing to unlock those? Well, you're on a world map just fighting your way through it And so you're walking up to a glowing spot hitting a and then fight so it's a different progression of the same kinds of fights Well, so they're special rules fights like Remember that was like the edge master mode assault elbow where they would start layering on different rules and stuff So they'll come up with rules that might make sense for the spirit. You are fighting cool Which is like so, you know, even though that spirit's not technically a playable character They can try to evoke things from that spirit like the chorus kids from uh rhythm heaven There's a little like white little guys with the huge mouths that sing along to rhythm heaven songs The equivalent of fighting the chorus kids is you fight three jiggly puffs that use the move sing a lot more often And they're you know, it's like the kind of look like um they do similar moves to what that character would be It's meant to kind of evoke that you're fighting this character The spirit is infesting this fighter, you know, it's kind of the storyline reason for it or whatever And I I just like seeing the clever things they come up with to like make the fighting rules match the spirit With the tools they have to work with I think that's that's cute and neat It gets a little like anytime.

It's an anime character. It's like, oh, it's gonna be a fire emblem guy Yeah, I think there's there's certainly limits to it But I think that you know, I played through about I would say half of that mode and I was still just like oh You know, I'd have like at worst The fights though can get a little rough I mean the fight, you know that you push the button and then smash brothers happen So like I feel like my least favorite part of this game is part of you play it And everything else around it like I just wish that nintendo applied this level of like check out all this wild shit from our history And the history of video games to anything other than this because man you have to play smash brothers And what's up the single player mode is it just playing smash brothers? I mean, that's the spirit mode is the big single. Oh, is that world of light?

Yeah, oh, that's the thing. They are the same Yeah, there's like a classic arcade mode style progression if you want that Yeah, there's some very clever moments in that as well Whether they do the same kind of thing like I'm fighting like a dracula at the end of my run or something like that And he actually has like the same attack patterns that he doesn't like Is the new such way a cemetery basically? Yeah, it's a close thing to a story mode. Okay.

Um, you've got like a cutscene at the beginning and then not really much else until I assume the end Yeah, but it's it's neat and then every time I quit that out it tries to unlock character on me So because presumably I've played enough of it to trigger that. So they're just happening That's kind of how it's always been It what happens is it loads of a fight against a character you're trying to unlock and you have to win to unlock character But no like no checklist of things to work toward no Nothing and play the game but there is so there is a separate thing that is a checklist of things You can unlock and panels to open up and stuff that are all like some of those challenges are crazy because it'll be like Oh, you know knock out three guys with Luigi doing this and that like that's where it gets crazy specific to unlock that But that doesn't necessarily the character unlocks directly Oh, yeah, I guess some of them do unlock spirits, but not but not characters So uh, I feel like you know going back to what I was saying about the character unlock system I think it works in this game for me because it's a game about just experiencing What Nintendo has crammed into this game and that includes like I knew the full roster coming in But I was still you know whenever I saw the new calendar screen and the silhouette would hop in there Be like a brief moment of oh, who is this? Oh, it's wolf like that's cool And I feel like it encourages people to try out a lot of characters where I think you can get really frustrating Isn't Jason's situation where you're down to like a couple more or if you have like one character you're really interested in Oh, I really want to play kinky roll. You're just not getting kinky roll I could imagine that being frustrated So I wish there was some sort of additional way to maybe spend coins to unlock character or yeah Spend coins to challenge a character to unlock and I think some of the stuff that you know We were talking about pre-release about with the unlocks We're like, oh man, what you know, this is gonna be annoying in a tournament setting and all such stuff And then I realized like oh wait like the people like the tournament said like that's the worst part about Smash Brothers Like I don't get like fine I don't want the game to be crafted to that like this is a better experience probably for the most of the people playing the game We're not in that situation, so I get it but at the same time.

Yeah, they should probably have an unlock all at a point for Dirty with this like okay, that's super sucks I mean that game should be up viewed as a party game alongside But I also I don't necessarily think the game needs to be catered to that if that's not their vision for the game Yeah, surely half the smash community must have unlocked all the characters right now. Yeah, that's kind of like Becomes like, you know, hey now we need a bunch of switches that have the stuff unlocked to run this tournament That'll be a fucking pain in the ass with the right profile signed into that stuff. Yeah, we'll suck Yeah, it's on point for people. It's like we don't have no stations like oh, so I'm gonna stay well.

I don't look at least So unfortunately, I see what you're saying about you know jumping around from character to character experiencing more of them Unfortunately, I had the exact opposite experience on that like I had one or two characters that I knew that it was good at see when you know The characters, you know when that the siren goes off right and you got a new character to unlock You know you fight them right away with that character that you currently have right and I didn't know that you could rematch them in another menu In like a sub-menu yeah, that was not clearly explained to me So it's like I thought that I was gonna have one shot at them and then it's like fuck I don't want to waste my time so I'm gonna keep using the same character that I know that I'm okay with Until I found out much much later effort. I unlocked like 40-some character happens if you lose fight So that it comes up and says you'll get another chance to fight them Yeah, yeah later and then like after I think like two more fights it popped up the hinge that said hey if you go into this menu There's a place you can go to like redo that I miss that Like wait a minute. Oh, okay. I can just go do this You're going to like the single player menu There's a little door that pops up in the corner if you click on the door It'll challenge you any one of them any one of the fighters that you have unlocked and failed to beat It's like I had three that I just kept losing two and so it would just kind of cycle through those three But the nice point is that at that point you can pick your character So yeah, if you were running into that issue like if you're like oh shit, I was just trying jigglypuff I know I have no idea actually play jigglypuff, but now I have to fight is about to figure that out man is a windfall of characters That felt good, but not believe it or not I have actually been having quite a bit of fun playing the single player stuff Just doing the classic mode because of the interesting a clever sometimes funny takes that they have totally didn't have to do anything Especially that classic.

Yeah, exactly like there's just some of the dumb stuff like a pack bands like classic run or something like that And it's like you know throw back to old old NES games and stuff like that So like each fight is geared around that or like pens as you fight against the rival writer of each of the like of you know Like if I wolf is supposed to start box and yeah, there's lots of number two Yeah, there's lots of neat stuff in there and like Jeff said I wish that this would be applied to different games as well Oh, maybe not smash my thing would smash all right, so I like buy it every time. Okay, because it's it's to me It's neither a fighter or a platformer like it's a platform Either yeah, like a platforming feels bad because they make you use an analog stick right and or jump on yeah Yeah, and those are on the top anyway But I always want it because I respect the people that do play it because they're supremely invested in that series They have a good ass time and I want to have a good time with them So if I'd like go to a party or something and everybody you know, it's playing smash I want to partake in that as well So I secretly buy them and I play them and I'm like no She's enough for me see this the approach you need to take is if you go to a party and they're playing smash brothers Just leave just leave I think this is not the party for me Yeah, I think I'm slowly come with that but that's like I and I got this one after we did a quick look Like I was like whatever he cares and then then I sat in on that quick look and was like okay No, there's like it's crazy how much there is to it Yeah, and I can't wait it celebrates like both like weird moments across Nintendo's history And then also the weird reaches into some Namco stuff and you know solid snake and whatever like the stuff they're doing there I think is amazing Like you know this game has fucking what like 12 songs from Sonic a hedgehog in it I need to skate from the fucking city in it that hellish just nightmarish song I'm making me an exe track in there. There's like all kinds like, you know I think I played the Castlevania soundtrack for like two hours And they've got you know and the stuff that they're pulling from like it's like it's not always just thrown in their haphazardly Like I think it was in the previous game the wrecking through stage was that something that's not new to this game, right? But like it's not just like hey look at this stage whatever It's hey look at the stage and the bombs work like they did in wrecking crew and the game kind of like it is more evocative of that game Then it should be it's like they went out of their way to be like no No, we're not just gonna fucking like go like hey I'm wrecking crew cuz no one fucking remembers wrecking crew I remember no one but they're like pulling in more elements from it like the other the elevator stage from the original Donkey Kong in there And you can pick up the fucking purse, you know There's like all sorts of like stuff where they went out of their way to to to make that stuff work better and hit more of Those kind of like hey remember this kind of moments then just hey look at this stage Yeah, there's an original Mario Brothers level, you know, yeah Turns coming out of the pipe, right?

Yeah, you can smack them from underneath and they get over you And that's the part that's really cool for me, but also the double-edged part of just like man I wish this was any game other than this. We got a we got an email about this exact topic before we move on from this I'm just gonna read real fast from Mitchell smash ultimate features some fantastic and clearly respect driven references to Street Fighter Castlevania and other various crossovers the one notable exception is Final Fantasy While there are assist trophies spirits and items from other crossovers all you get is cloud the Midgar sage and they measly Two Ff7 tracks and nothing else which is the same as you got in previous smash and previous DLC and crossover characters Also his costumes like he doesn't have like additional colors for his costume He's got two different costumes like an a-side beside and that's it Yeah, I think that's the only character that does yeah This cross over characters like Ryu and Megaman and even Snake who was missing for a game all got extensive new stuff This is compared to 30-plus tracks each for Castlevania and Megaman and Street Fighter on top of tons of spirits I don't I don't think cloud is even used in a single spirit down within so what's the deal is this just the thing They had to do to get square to agree and what would the logic be for limiting your own representation and generally being a bit of a party pooper? Yeah, that's probably like another yeah another weird move from square I'm guessing that yeah, like that's good. This is just swear being fiercely protective of its stuff And also it might be the case that like maybe they got to pay somebody royalties on those music rights So if they pull in more tracks, then suddenly that's more money that swears got to pay somebody that they don't want to pay anymore You know like whatever it is Yeah, that's probably just swear being weirdly protective overly protective of that IP I mean think about it like if they've got the Final Fantasy 7 work Remake in the works They want to be able to control the Final Fantasy 7 messaging as much as they can and so putting a really strict clause out there for Nintendo Okay, this is exactly what you can talk about.

Here's the narrow window you can use and nothing else Yeah, that's I mean, yeah, I agree that that's lame But but I I think I think that's probably where they would be coming from on them It just sticks out because they're the only one that like aren't playing ball and they should just cut from the game almost everyone is here Right, I will say before we move on to smash that there I have a couple issues with some very small but weird issues at the game that you just kind of don't see anymore in a lot of modern games like There's one problem where if you go into a specific thing in training mode, you can't exit training without just resetting the console Like there's no exit menu that pops up. There's no way straight up you get stuck in training mode I don't know that's that's that's true. I could I got it down here Well, it's not just like I can show you exactly what it is But like I've seen you know professional smash players doing it about like really this is I'm stuck in here Does anyone else have this problem? It's about people saying really it's like you have to go I'll show you the break.

Okay, um and then lastly the online I'm not in a chance to play much of it myself, but I see people so you can't unlock You guys aren't gonna care about this but you can't just straight up unlock the ability to Go online and play 1v1 against people right you have to unlock like what's it called? You know, it's called like master smash or something. There's like another mode. You basically it's almost like ranked or something.

Yeah But to do it you have to just play a bunch of random matches where you might just get put in like four player max item random stages and I honestly like I think that the competitive hyper competitive people should be placed in something like this more often just to be like Hey, remember, this is where smash started This is what the game actually is and you're weird You can enjoy your weird thing But also you need to realize that this is something that like you know You're gonna play against some like six-year-old who's playing the game for the first time and just have fun with it Play around the items and do stuff But also like if you are a competitive match player and that's like your livelihood your sponsor player or something and you can't go Practice even against other people without being able to 1v1 like that seems like a weird thing to admit out the gate Yeah, but also I think it's another thing of like Nintendo seems to have made it clear over the years that they're only barely tolerating this Like subsection like yeah, I guess we're supporting the scene kind of yeah, but that's not the game we're making But if you want to play it that way, I guess we'll allow it Uh, so yeah, I guess it's more like weird stubbornness from Nintendo who have it's just I feel like even more harshly contrasted in this game Because there's so much care put into like the spirits mode the classic mode so much stuff that is really celebratory And then just like this tiny little streak of just like No, not but that's the thing is like, you know, all the spirit stuff and like, you know, they would never probably play with spirits Uh turned on yeah, there's a pure playing competitively Turn it though still or turn the scene still focus on like fretting as much out as possible and playing on like my understanding was back in the day It was always like there was a specific featureless stage that they played on there's like yeah, definitely on the game And like items were removed and just like there's the purest experience possible. It's like five or six stages in the rotation Yeah, it's it's I mean that's still it's still has to remove as much random as you can sure And I think that makes sense for what they're trying to accomplish But like I I think it's okay and the sales of the series over the years I think it proved that like Nintendo was right to not just cater the game to that audience You guys see it was like 1.6 million units in Japan over the first weekend. Yeah, boy. Um So, yeah, I don't know it's the other thing I've heard is that the online is not good Yeah, I'll also do that because the end of it's just not great.

So I'm people are I don't know to ensure the service but I Yeah, whatever. That's not great. I've run it the same thing with bugmon Let's go a bit of like the online being like Subaru bare bones and like there's no ranking mode So I feel like they're they're trying to cater the game to like the little children And it's like all right you guys that take the game too seriously go over there Yeah, Nintendo doesn't seem like they quite yeah Or I don't know like they've done interesting things like the way Splatoon rotated stages at first You were like this is some backwards action. What are you doing?

I think that ended up working out. Yeah, but I think by and large most of the choices They make around how they build their online modes are just like all right You don't like you try to do something different, but that's you don't have to yeah They can just do the thing that people want out of the game It'd be fine too. Yeah, like the community just finds a way to right keep doing their super competitive stuff Anyway, but like you know Our people who are very serious about that game gonna want to play online anyway and get used to the latency and the the nastiness that comes along with that No, it's more like in their offline game. Totally.

It's more like hey I want to play against my friend who lives on the east coast and we're both like serious mashers, but now we really can't yeah serious measures I'm a serious masher. Are you serious? Congratulations to Sakurai who can now return to his hibernation. They've got that game there to get regenerating.

They'll see a lot of plans on the way No, there's no rest. Yeah, all right. Well then condolences to Sakurai. Yeah, who may never rest Um, it's Mario time.

That's right. It's always Mario time somewhere Who dong cities the city never sleeps so the game awards happened last week Which we will talk about at links in the news, but games came out right randomly randomly. I'll expect it Yes, we got to be Got to be this we're not these we're not acts of God somebody planned this to happen Or with the acts of the devil Brad. Mm-hmm.

Yeah. Yeah, super giant put out a game. I don't know where 80s They announced an police the game. Yeah a couple other things came out that night, but it's an early access Yeah, which is the first time they've done that Only on the epic stuff.

Yes. Yeah, we'll dig into that store in the news But yeah the epic games store launched that night with this new super giant early access game Yeah, how do they denote that on the store because I didn't see a whole lot of language around it being early access I mean, uh, I think it's it's but it's in the logo for the game Yeah, it's just a series early access in the low It's like a lot of seems got their sort of like yeah front and center like here's why we're doing early access We'll get into the news But steam has a lot of features and stuff that you know, you would think that a store launching in 2018 would have already put in instead of saying Hey more come yeah, but I guess that the epic game store only has three games on it anyway, so what's you know, whatever sure uh Yeah, Hades. It's cool. Yeah.

I really like it. Um, it's got that super giant fuel Yeah, and it's kind of a it's a run based, uh, you know Like a sort of deal. Yeah, nice metric. Yep.

Got kind of a looking feel of bastion. I guess you'd say or two degree Yeah, but at the same time, I think it does kind of have its own feel You know, you basically have four attacks, you know, you can go with a you get to choose a weapon before you kind of go on your run Um, and you'll have four different attacks based on whatever weapon you choose So you kind of start with the sword and you've got you know, just kind of default slash and then kind of an area attack A dash and then like a casting kind of spell thing that uses a separate ammo that one is is pretty standard across all the weapons um and It's got a deliberate feel to it at times where you feel like you're committing to attacks But I think if your timing is good enough, it does start to flow Um, it's hard not to think about dead cells when you think about the game Just because you know dead cells is still such a fresh, you know, release But the thing about dead cells is like you are canceling out of everything and everything and also stuff and that sounds very loose and forgiving Yeah, this is what I would say is not as loose and but it If you are timing your stuff right and there are some perks along the way you can you can earn that might You know kind of make this stuff a little bit easier or whatever You can do that like dash into attack or you know attack into this into that You know, you can you can start to chain that stuff together So there's more kind of recovery time to worry that yeah, yeah, it's cool because it's almost like a weightiness to the weapons It feels like you're swinging this big sword whereas dead cells is like you hit the button and the attack comes out Yeah, it's it's different enough. I like you, you know, I was coming in thinking a lot about dead cells because to me That's just what the example of a good rope like looks like now Um, but it is different enough and like the ability to kind of knock enemies into the wall and like bounce them into the wall Combo them that way and kind of like if you get a good combo going on an enemy sometimes You just lock them down. Yeah, you could really rock them.

Uh, and that's pretty cool. So it's something that uh dark cells are not Uh, that that game's made me like aware of uh is a when enemies attack you Um, you know, are you getting hit by proximity or are you getting hit by their attack? Do you know what I mean? Like can you walk up?

Yes, there we go. Yes, uh in in Hades. I think you can I don't know I don't actually yeah. No, I think that I'm like looking forward I think it depends on the and I think like the floating skulls the numb skulls I think might do damage on touch but I think some of the bigger guys do damage on attack.

Okay. I'm not Yeah, I think I remember walking around those big club guys. Yeah, and you could kind of but also the dash you can dash through enemies And kind of hit them from behind Up here at the dash location and then Recovery to the end but even then you can kind of interrupt that recovery within attack if you time it right I think that was the thing like my first few runs. It just feels weirdly stiff.

Um, and and then as I started getting that timing down I was like, okay. No, like that stuff's here. You just have to be good. You know, you have to be better at your timing I found myself shooting out of the dash a lot like I'll dash and then shoot against a lot of that.

Yeah, the upgrade system is really cool too Yeah, it's kind of an upgrade so you're kind of you're losing your money between runs at least at first you There's items you have to get the commit to get that. Um, but yeah, you're upgrading like oh, I want to regain a little bit of health for every room Next room I go into or better backstab damage or even I was talking about the like the god powers I can run from Zeus and so it'll be three kind of electricity three themed things that will either affect your attack your shot or your dash Um, so you can kind of upgrade depending on what way you want to play. It reminds me of like the the red green purple thing from dead So we can kind of pick which route you want to maximize and some of that stuff will be even a little more different Like the sword by default is a is a three string attack and the third one is a slower kind of plant your feet type thing You can eliminate that third and just get down to your basic slash and so you do slightly less damage, but you're never not attacking Uh, so between that and then I got like a chain lightning curve that made it so when I'm hitting people lightning flying out and hitting other enemies And so never not attacking and then like I and just backing enemies into walls. It just really fucking their shit up That felt pretty good.

Uh, and then all things like, you know, you're kind of trying to escape the underworld, uh, and and you're running into You know, Achilles and you tell a Greek. Yeah, uh, let's go like the fighting is yeah Yeah, it's really polished for early. I mean, I mean there's stuff is always polished right like just the menu transitions and like animations around just the Kind of fit and finish of the thing. Yeah, I guess I just when you say early access I expect something that looks sort of rougher than that They seem like they look super nice.

They seem very aware of like some of the negatives of You know that that early access connotation like they've got a counter on the main menu It's like a number of days into our next major update Like there's gonna be number of days since it's like counting down to the next kind of monthly up That's cool. Whatever. That's that's so I think they've that's a good idea They've realized that like hey people want to know what's happening with a game when it's an early access Is there also information about like I was listening to the patch notes about what is in but I don't know that they necessarily are too upfront about what's next It's a little bit of under the controller support isn't quite there. You have to like I was finding I was unable to use like an analog stick.

Oh weird I didn't I had no problems with control here. I was like trying to find my left right, but it couldn't Um, yeah, hopefully they have some sort of it's early access. Yes. Yeah, is there a voice acting?

Yeah. Yeah, it's uh, it's got a variety You know kind of the the super giant players are are there in presence and all that stuff But it seems like a wider voice cast than than some of their other games for sure. Uh, and yeah I think the writing is really clever. Uh, it's got kind of a light take on, you know, this whole underworld You know, it's not like a dark thing.

Yeah, it's it's kind of flip at times in a way that I appreciate It's like you die and you have to run by your father. Hey, he's again. He's like Yeah, I'm dying again. I'm gonna try again.

You wait shit. I think you really need to take the piss Yeah, it's cool. Uh, it's yeah, that's cool. It's cool to see them go back to just a pure like action combat game again Like I mean I absolutely applaud them for the weird shit they've been getting up to transistor was a weird strategy game and then pyre just like fuck man Yeah, pyres like fantasy basketball.

Yeah, but but you know, this maybe has a little more broad appeal seems like probably Yeah, so that's just you know, uh, but yeah, it feels good. That's cool Um, another game that randomly came again from my ram. I keep saying that calculatedly came out during the game awards was action Which is yeah, I'm interested in this very long time like didn't you say like to me for years ago? Not this year, but the last one my first three appointment ever.

I'd forgotten all about it I feel like they announced it a while ago. Um, but it's out on Xbox and peace also the epic store in fact Yes, it had a steam page people does. Yeah, but the steam page has changed dramatically because I think it had you know that all the Dressing you would expect about a game that was soon come out. Oh, yeah, and now it's just like Hey, they clearly made some deals with epic and they were wheeling and doing like seems like it will come to sleep at the game awards Come on.

Yeah, I got a couple hours into it. Um, it is super dark souls like it plays like attacks on the shoulders Like you have a game named literally super dark souls. The most seven is gonna fucking Ready for it. Um, it's it's really simplified there.

No character classes. There's only one armor slot So like you're equipping an outfit like rubber drops as a full set. Um, yeah, there's no like real character builds There are there are some like talismans and stuff you quit, but it is like very much like a streamlined kind of stripped down version of that Um, visually it looks a lot like yeah, it's a lot like a solver. It's got like a kind of a flat.

Yeah, no Yeah, it's sort of like that. Um, it's not in the world with no sun. Well, that sucks like life. Yeah, it's like here It's like kind of like light is a big deal because there's no there's no sun and The only natural illumination comes from this bird god that has just been rebirth and is like soaring over the land or something naturally Anyway, so like light has come back to the world and it's a big deal But uh what this game how this game came off to me when I started getting into it was that the developer looked at the original pitch for dark souls Two that never happened and said like fuck it.

We're gonna make that I don't know if you guys remember that when they were first selling our souls to They're talking about how like oh that the dungeons are gonna be super dark Like light will be a resource. You have to manage like you can carry a torch and you're offhand But then you won't be able to carry a shield or like you can like light torches on the walls to give yourself You know like they made it like out like this is gonna be a big risky mechanic Yeah, not being able to see and having to negate that and then the game came out and you remember all the graphics downgrade stuff And a lot of that stuff just wasn't there because they probably couldn't handle it with the Reduce lighting the ends up with well, they're snapping also like it wasn't fun. Yeah It seems very possible that that mechanic could go awry and be like oh, this is actually like way more light management than Yeah, yeah, but this game has played the legend of Zelda 2. I have you ever go to that cave before you find that candle Don't do this.

Yeah, it's rough. Yeah, it's not good. It's not a good time You can make it but it's not good either eyes can't you? Everybody's eyes blue.

Yeah, um the same is kind of that though because I'm not super deep in it I've got through one major dungeon and there's totally caves off to the side But all of them are like almost pitch black you can barely see in there Oh, wow, but you get a lantern early on that looks super nice like it's really nice Dynamic lighting but it is totally bad It's like you're carrying the lantern in your offhand and that means you can't use a two-handed weapon or shield But you can set the lantern down and have kind of stationary light source, huh? And then you can switch with that stuff. Okay, but then if you have to back away, it starts getting dark again It's a cool mechanic. Oh, it's really nice.

All the channels that I've seen have mentioned some sort of like co-op as well Yeah, I'm not super clear how that stuff works because there is there's an AI companion Oh, it's weird because the AI companion is there at the very start of the game The second you like set out Yeah, and they fucking run up and kill the first enemy you see faster than you can even like get bearings Like I just they got no chill whatsoever I've heard that I mixed the game up quite a bit easier Um, although I've heard that like somebody was saying that it gets hard enough later on that you would kind of not want to be alone Huh like there's so many enemies later on that you kind of would get screwed by yourself Um, I just want them to be a portable light source for me. They do that. They absolutely totally will do that cool So you but but they're too erratic to depend on that's kind of what I mean When I say that it's weird because like sometimes the dude is there sometimes he's not sometimes health bar disappears Which I assume means he's no longer with me and then he'll just pop back up randomly sometimes get self-killed But then there is but there's multiplayer But that's that's why the extra confusing is I turned off the AI companion But left the multiplayer stuff on and then the same AI companion showed up later Which I assume was a real person at that point But it's a journey but it's a main story character that's rolling with you Oh, yeah, I was gonna say I thought that the multiplayer in this was kind of a journey thing That's what that is my understanding But but again like I was like I thought I turned that dude off and here he is again But then somebody was saying like when other real players are in your game They are disguised as three characters. I'm which is weird This was the pitch at e3 I'm not sure if it's in the final game But they were saying that if you complete like a dungeon or kill a boss with that AI companion like an online AI companion They will join your town and like open up shop.

Huh become like a permanent resident in your like hubby zone So there's definitely a town building aspect of this that's super cool But I hadn't I didn't like they don't really explain any of that stuff So that may be happening and I didn't know it but um Yeah, the starting area you've got like one dude who's helping you and then after you go do a couple Also the game has quests like it's it's got full-on like west markers and objectives and a quest log Which is totally not the norm for a dark souls idea But um yeah every time you do something that advances the story and you come back to that area They have like carved more out of this mountain to look like a big structure like they're totally building a town as the story goes It's really cool. Yeah, there are a bunch of just like unnamed like townspeople sitting around So those may be players that I've put them to work come in contact with or something The town stuff doesn't seem like changes anything I mean you get new vendors like new crafting tables open up as you go But like you know, you'll need a big you know what you're crafting You know what you can repair weapons. You can create new talismans that give you different effects Like the town building stuff is just kind of like set dressing on a very standard character upgrade system That still looks cool. I just feel like you're doing stuff, you know I love the air of mystery around these kinds of games when they first come out Where it's just kind of this period of like nobody's quite sure what to do because the game's hard enough That nobody's just like people aren't breathing through it and it's confusing enough that nobody's sure if it's part of the game Yeah, I'm a lot of little tactical that this dude is following me around and I don't know if it's AI or a real player or not Even though it's all a bit confusing.

Oh, it sounds like a fresh tank. That's cool It's got enough different stuff going on from a dark souls That's what I was worried about because I started playing it probably about a half hour to an hour and I'm like my Sure is dirty. Yeah, it's got it down. Yeah, it's a thing going on cool for sure It's only 40 bucks.

So it's like not the highest budget game But there's some like big sort of set piece type I don't it's fun to see that stuff for yourself So it is but like just in terms of like animation and scale and some of the big flashy stuff They went for like for a game that was probably made by a small team like they're doing some stuff Right, it's cool. Did you play down piece here? I'm on the Xbox. Okay.

Well, you have game passer No, I should I should probably look into that It's never so it's cool. It's like this game just gets announced in days. I don't know if they had announced this was gonna be on game pass before But this and you're zero which I have not played but which people are raving about is also a game pass game Like they're just like dropping new games left and right on that thing. They seem to really be going for it Yeah, and it's great because these games are like I don't know if I would immediately jump into so it's nice to have that option Yeah, we can just try it out.

Do you need gold if you want game pass? I'm pretty sure they are separate. Okay, man. If I'm not mistaken quick since we even need gold to play multiplayer.

Sure in game pass games Yeah, I can see though Else but anything else feel like there's something else in the game or it's yeah, just in general games in general Yeah, I do have something man. So again, here's here's my deep dark secret. I got my PlayStation VR Oh, yes, okay for gun great over this. Yes.

That was the game Got a new game original gun grieve in VR. It's a brand-new game because the idea of playing APS 2 game in VR I was like weird but weirdly appealing. Yeah, that could be kind of cool Anyway, I played a bit of gun grave back at E3 and I actually enjoyed my time with it You know, it was it was a nice like third-person shooter all kinds of anime trappings and stuff over the top stylish action my kind of shit I'm like fuck. Yeah, I can't wait to play this whole game And I got it now and I played the whole game and man It's it's not gonna take long to play through that that game because it's very very short Don't be misled by the cover that says hey you get two games in one It's gun grave VR one and gun grave VR two because that the first game is like five chapters Second game is like three chapters and it's got the same menu loadout and everything anyway, let me let me back up Third-person action game left stick moves your character around right your head moves the targeting radical of the right stick Turns the camera and it does it in steps.

So it's very But yeah, it's just it's a wave-based enemies and it's the same enemies all throughout the game from what I've played so far And it's extremely bare bones and it doesn't change much as far as enemies are concerned your perspective changes So which is kind of strange because you go from third person to first person sometimes and then to a weird side-scrolling 2d Version of it as well. It's yeah, it's not pretty So you're just moving your head like left or right depending on where you want your character to face if you like this camera I fucking hate it. I am right. Yeah, I am not a fan So what I liked like I said at E3 was you know kind of the sandwich stuff and that's that's prevalent You know where you're like carrying a coffin around.

Yeah, I just want to make sure no coffin in this one Yeah, yeah, this is the coffee game. Well, you're in a close you're in a close area So this couple where you're outside, but you're in like, you know, city corridors and stuff so you can't really see too far, but Yeah, it's big disappointment for me. I thought I was gonna really like this full price. You know, I don't know Yeah, I can go ahead and find out, but is it based off something?

Yeah, they're gonna grave a Slash I don't know what came first anime or the the games I remember when maybe it was just you know, I don't really think Japan But I feel like when those were coming out originally back on ps2. I remember it I feel like the knowledge was this is based on an anime that I think I want to say that that came first But I guess I don't know for sure that appears in case you know you play EDF That came out. That was just good very very very good. I haven't came out 30 bucks a day Right now.

Yeah, damn it. No, I didn't play it. How much was it? Great was 30 bucks 30 bucks.

No, no, it's still not feeling it. Yeah, you can you can burn through it real quick But actually it's old real quick and those 2D sequences are just just mind-numbingly bad. It's uh, it's real shame for shame It's not like, you know, I like me some stylish action. Yeah, no one says you didn't.

Okay. No one is out there Don't ever don't ever think that I don't like I would never do ever. Thank you, but don't give it to me Not this man. It doesn't even have a coffin.

Yeah, what the hell can you say? No, also doesn't have a coffin But did you play some? Oh, oh, I almost pick this up too. I might not be the guy for exit It's awesome.

Yeah, so yeah, like we talked about on this show last time Okay, I've been a lot of different podcasts for the last couple weeks here Yeah, no, this is this is the closest as electronics game is gonna get to something that is like my alley I think is there is a there the shin jin. I owe people okay, and so I wrote a bunch code I read PDFs, you know designed to look like achorzines. Did you remember? No, I don't have a working practice Because it's 2018 you're missing some of the I don't know how to use the off-runner.

That's why I asked you to print things for me and Yeah, it's that you were writing code to solve problems I made it deliver pizza to me in game anyway, but you know like the initial setup is that you you've got some kind of virus That is turning your body into a computer, which is actually a bad thing. Oh, okay Oh, that sucks, and you need medicine the cost $700 a day to stave it off But you don't have that kind of money a lot of insurance. Yeah, so you have to turn to hacking you have to get back into hacking like You know, it's alluded to that you got out the life, but then an AI shows up on your computer and says I'm gonna get you this medicine It's a clippy. It might as well be it's a lazy space and says like you're gonna hack and then there's knock the door And an old hacker friend shows up with his new zenas is I don't know I just thought you might need this and then they I was like cool, right?

I mean I was like, and so the first issue of this is literally like It's the first three or just tutorials about like a here's basic So how to code these things about like, you know Hey, you're just how you're gonna make pizza delivered to your house and here's how you're gonna manipulate a file to copy of Thing out of it and move it over and you're just kind of learning the basics of Working in this file system and then like page eight of the zen is just like here's every here's what appears to be every command that Is where is in this programming language? And then you know, it just kind of presents you with the next problem and he's like alright go and I was able to solve that one And then unlocks the next one like basically what it starts doing is because your body is turning into a computer You can hack your body to save it. So you get time It seems like what I got to is you start getting missions in parallel They're like these are the ones you're hacking to hack for but also like hey, wouldn't it be cool if your left arm was better And that doesn't that doesn't seem like it necessarily will have a gameplay impact It's like your left arm is turning into a computer. You should probably hack it to fix it or to actually stay off for real in a way That the medicine only kind of delays And that's where I got stuck is trying to write code that would Basically clamp the limits of a range of numbers that are sent from the nerve to the muscle So like the the the numbers the the impulses the numbers coming in from the nerve can be all over the place But they need to be between I think it's 50 and negative 120 and so you have to write a program that if the number is outside that If it numbers inside that range it passes it along Untouched if the numbers outside that range it clamps it to either 50 or negative 120 and passes that along and that's the one I got stuck on because like it expects it in a certain timing that I just can't get right like like I'd write to basically two programs Like one big so you're okay.

Yeah, I'll put it for one for exactly. Yeah, so and that's all visualized by these little robots Yeah, like you know The each file system is there to be a files that have chosen rooms and each room is technically a different part of the file system So you have to traverse the rooms which is navigating the file system and you have to you know Have the robot pick up the file read from the file You know you can erase the file you can drop the file in a different area if that's what you need to do depending on what you're trying To accomplish and the robots and talk to each other. So you put one road This is how I'm trying to solve it. Is that visualized as a little speech?

Yeah, there's no. No, no Actually, they will you will see numbers kind of pop over their heads as they're reading and dealing with files And you'll see it being from one robot to the next. Yeah, it's transferring It's a nice representation So I have to put one robot at the nerve and one robot at the muscle and then I'm trying to get it Okay, read the nerve is this number in range if yes send to other robot who then copies it to the muscle file sore and So on but some part of it is out of whack and it's just taking too long because every time you read the nerve the nerve number increments So whatever the next one's going to be and so I'm trying to copy that number out But every time I run as I'm running these cycles of code on this robot the number is changing and changing and changing So my input output isn't lining up My output isn't coming back for like four cycles too late and I don't know how to tighten up the code to get it to be in Line sounds like you got a buffer of yeah, so I might not ever play it ever again Oh, it's it's fucking hard I'm looking at it going like this is how it's all this problem and the instructions seem to say that the robot will wait for the other robot to Be ready to receive before it sends so to solve these kind of timing issues So I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong But like there's a part of me that wants to just stare at it for a fucking hundred hours and get it right And a part of me that wants to uninstall it never play ever again So I'm just like this is awesome from a distance and I played I played further than someone on my friends list did So and saw where they dropped off on the leaderboard. So I'm just better than that guy How do you business this like how many is like the fifth thing okay and the first three tutorials So it sounds like one of them id 10t problems.

Yeah, right? Yeah, how how soon before you can hack out my diabetes. Oh, that's pretty much yeah, I can I can take care of that It's on the first page of PDF. Yeah, I think there's a second PDF that probably just gets into that supplemental Yeah, it's like okay hack a hack pizza hack an ATM nice and then glucose is pretty much just right there on the list So awesome.

Yeah, again, I don't remember which podcast this got set on but didn't didn't he say that the code is a sort of basic like Yeah, but I want it to be is it its own thing though Do you have to like learn its syntax before you can do anything? Yeah So it's like to move a robot to to move your program from one area to the next you type a link and then a number and then all the Things are numb all the gates from one file system another are numbered so you say link 800 and that'll move it through the 800 gates Okay, and then link 800 again Which is happened to be the next one forward because one back is negative one You know like and and so they've written there if then stuff in a way that I wish was more like actual basic of the 80s Where like you basically you are you are reading a number and then you have to run a set of commands that test the number And then if the test passes then there's another register that says one if test fails that register t says zero Whereas I want to be all right. If this is that then do this right? That's what I assumed it would know instead it's like you're saying is this that and then you're saying hey test Test to see if this is that and then by running the test it says a zero or a one and the other thing Then you have to query that register to say is that a zero or is it a one?

That's not then do this then you write a series of loops based on you know, okay jump to the jump to this section if the test passes If the fails just continue on and and those are how the basics of the statements are written and it sounds very modular It is yeah, or excuse me object oriented. Well, yeah, I guess maybe that's probably a more modern Yeah, I guess and I'm used to because I'm like I said, I'm like a tari 400 if x equals four then go to 400 Or go sub if I want to come back, you know, and so that's Yeah, that's the part that's yeah, I don't know. It's it's fucking awesome. It sounds super cool.

I have to look at this It's it's fascinating. Yeah, and it's the closest Yeah, the closest that one of those electronics games has come to getting me because of like the subject matter and how they're approaching it and stuff Yeah, like I said, it got in my eye. I went to bed that night I'm not really what are ways I could like rewrite this code to try to read and I just I couldn't come up with anything That was the part where kind of part is just like I zero ideas It was like I wrote the code and I was like this seems like the one way I know how to solve this problem And then it didn't solve it. I'm like fuck He didn't like wake up the next morning going I know I did not wake up with like a new thing trying All I can do is really go back in there and try to just erase everything and rewrite from scratch And see if like there's some way to tighten it up Tighten up you have one other option.

What's that? You could just let yourself become a computer Yeah, that's probably a better thing about it. You wouldn't have to go online to order pizza You can just think it it won't be so bad. I could think pizza and I wouldn't need to eat it because I'm just computer Well, I don't even think it would come to your door you'd still eat it Yeah, I think the specifics of the of the of the phage is that you are not turning into a usable computer No, you were turning into a nightmare of circuitry that doesn't actually do anything Something like that.

Yeah, is there is there like a facial or physical element to dealing with robots? Like you have to move physically move them around That's where the link command of like a hundred will move them forward What I mean is like is it just abstracted out to just like the number being just an address that you were sending So you don't have to like physically navigate. No, it's not like it's not like logo. You're making the turtle move I already thought that uh-huh.

It's just everything is numbered So you say go here and it moves into that room If it's in the same room as a file You can then pick up the file and read from the file or delete the file or add things to the file And then set it back down I have to like this. It's cool. It's really cool. Yeah, it's really really cool.

It's cool The last thing I remembered is I played a little bit of Monster Boy in the cursed kingdom Which is the first new monster boy game in what 30 30 years monster boy monster boy. It was a was a master system only It started. I believe so I'm super unclear on the lineage It's all back to the lineage of like Hudson's adventure islands and the spin-offs of that and then Wonder Boy in the master world So it doesn't help that that that Basically has two names like I never know if it's Wonder Boy or Monster Boy are those interchangeable or those different games lineage I ever like read up. Yeah, all Wonder Boys are monsters, but all the monster boys are wonder It's like it's like it's like just in a modern example like that remake came out.

Was it last year? Yeah, you're Wonder Boy the Dragon's Trap Which is like a literal remake of a master system game. That's Wonder Boy. This is Monster Boy But people treat them as if they're basically the same franchise.

Yeah super cool to a monster in one boy Yeah, it's I think that was the thing is at some point it got into the monster stuff far enough that they were just like oh They just kind of spun it off. I don't know. So what's the game? It's a platformer.

It's a action platformer in this case the new one I don't know. I never played the old ones. I don't know how deep they went into this But the new one is basically a Metroid game. It's got it.

It's got a Metroidvania map It's a little more RPG because they're like armor sets and like you get a set bonus for completing a full set and stuff like that I'm like it less than an hour into it. I just fired it up. I'm gonna play a bunch more of it before we do a video It is so charming. Like I expected kind of nothing from this also was developed in France Like the Japanese creator of Monster Boy was a designer on it.

Yeah, but the are these people that worked on that It's game. It's game. It's also game. I'm trying to find that right now I don't think so because it's a game.

I believe is the developer. Yeah, France going hard on remaking Totally because it was it was not even an lizard cube right that did Wonder Boy last year I think this is different. I think these are different European companies putting out this model It has got a studio sound familiar. Yeah, I've heard the name before although I wasn't familiar with their stuff much, but I want to say they're doing a first person to Anime inspired first person, but also 2D shooter.

That's the yeah. Yes. That's I away. I think so.

Yeah. I'm glad is that them I don't know if that's them or not, but I'm aware of the game that I think I'm talking about I can try to look that up, but this game like the second you put it up this game has got the Cheesiest fucking anime intro. I have ever seen maybe in a game like it is incredible how earnestly ridiculous it is Like deliberately trying to look like a VHS tape. No, not like that I guess more just like the it's just like real upbeat rockin anime sounding theme with some totally ridiculous lyrics All right, where they just sing the line monster boy repeatedly.

All right. That sounds like it really needs to be seen to be believed. All right. Um, yeah I don't know how to explain it, but it feels like a modern-day master system game I'm not really sure how to back that up, but it feels like that like it just has that kind of vibe to it Um, I think that was the thing when we looked at that remake when they came by with that and when Janers back I was realizing just how deep that game was in terms of like, oh, you're gonna put on these different monster You know you're gonna turn to these different monsters at different abilities and like it almost kind of had that Metroidvania type thing to it Yeah, which I don't think I realized like I was just not familiar with the game.

I never got those games either Yeah, I've only got one animal form so far, but I'm a pig with an eyepatch All right, and I can bring a shop that seemed like something that I patch would do no But the first shop I got or if I found was being made by a giant rhinoceros great It was called Rhino March great like the shops look like the shops in that Wonder Boy remake like they totally are going for that Music it just all feels like a super 80s, but not an NES game like a master Yeah, yeah, it's weird. Um, and the art is super expressive like it reminds me that most recent Sean's a game Yeah, like super crisp and colorful and just like tons of personality to it We will do a quick look at that thing. It impressed me a lot more than I was expecting. It seems really good It reviewed really well, too, so it sounds like it holds up But yeah, man games come out.

I've been playing some more just calls for okay. Also. Yeah, and it doesn't seem to be setting the world ablaze It kind of sucks. I don't know like it kind I Which version like in a way that's a different way I was like it feels like they're doubling down on some of the bland stuff from three It sounds like he's got its own separate issues.

Yeah, maybe a little top of I haven't seen People have a litany of complaints about you know, the pc version specifically a lot of performance Yeah, I've seen a lot of forum posts of people going like it looks like this and yet it runs like shit Like basically saying it doesn't look good to begin with. Yeah performance is bad. It's yeah Yeah, parts of it are not outstanding. It's it's I don't believe stuff sounds so cool Yeah, so that's that's kind of the thing is the tether system and the things they've done They're like are really interesting, but maybe not in a video game Like it doesn't necessarily feel like they're writing the video game missions to be great at taking advantage of those things I guess or a situation where like oh, yeah You can kind of use all your tethers and tether abilities and stuff to to do weird Solve these missions in weird ways or you just shoot these four guys with your gun and get moving Like it's not worth it to take all this time or or or like hey, it'd be really fun to fuck around So here's what it's really fun to fuck around in that world with the tethers Because you will unlock balloons and you can you can unlock mods for these things to say like oh Do I want these balloons to be high force or low force?

What do I want or like booster grenades is another thing where you they attach to a thing And then you you hit a button to trigger them and suddenly they're thrusters So you can attach it to a guy and make him fly up in the air. Fuck him. He's dead Um, and then you can set it to be like, okay Well, what do I want to have happen? Do I want these boosters to last 10 seconds to 30 seconds?

Do I want them to uh peter out at the end or explode? And so you have these these modules, you know, but there's a whole mission tree You have to do to unlock all those mods, which is a pain in the ass because the missions are not much fun Um, and then there's the main missions of like oh, we're taking over the world and you're kind of taking back territory and expanding squads Out to control more land with your army of chaos. I think that's all new, right? Yeah, you know, you would kind of like liberate territory in the past, but this is like oh, you earned two squads And now you can liberate this territory and push the front line further ahead and do anything with them or is that just different?

No, it just means it just means you see fighting in that region. Okay, because your troops are there It's just a different way to change the color of the map exactly so far. It's been it's been pretty like in that department I maybe spent like five hours with it. So I'm not oh, I wonder if that's the thing they came up with to replace just the sort of raw chaos currency I mean, it's literally called the army of chaos.

So yeah, you're feeling a chaos meter to orange squads for your army. Okay, that's a totally different way to track But the tethers and those things are really fun because then you're like man, this is a llama here I'm gonna attach a booster this llama and make it fly away And so you can kind of set up like oh, I want to you know, they give you kind of different triggers So if you have it so automatically I want the balloon to inflate and take off But I want to I want the balloon to really get going when I hold up on the d-pad You can set it that so it'll just kind of hover there and then you're like, oh, whatever I want you going hold up on the d-pad it flies away until you let off and then it'll stop again And there's another motion for tapping on the up on the d-pad So I'd be like for I want to activate the boosters when I tap up or I want to you know inflate the balloons and have them say inflate By tapping up instead of just holding or else it sounds like you need like a flowchart to trap all the balloon shit And then that's you building a loadout and then you can push left and right on the d-pad at any point to swap when you're three Oh cool. So if you're like, okay, I'm in like mode where I want to destroy a bunch of stuff So get them far away as possible. This is the point of shit out tethers.

This is my fun time tethers You can kind of do that and it's like as a system bolted into a full game Like it works for that specific purpose. It feels like a mod It feels like they like like had this mission-based open-world shooter and then someone modded this fucking tether system into it After they made all the missions So it's like it's kind of clunky and it's not as like full-featured as it seems like it probably should be It seems really tough because like obviously this is a game that needs to have missions It needs to have a story and that stuff's never the most interesting part about just cause So you almost hope they would like see why you know people got really excited about just cause too online because it was a huge sandbox to fuck Around with this crazy physics engines and you would hope that they've kind of learned that lesson But like now it says you sandbox with all of these tools at your disposal But everything is shooting at you in a way that makes it a hassle It's like being more into the Gary's mod aspect of it and just like you know have that core story or whatever for people who want to do it But then also just be like hey, here's where you can build a map or like here's where you can have Even though even if it was just and so this is what I did even if you were just invincible Yeah, it would make the game way more entertaining So there's a cheat engine table for hey, don't die and hey have unlimited ammo, which I didn't actually need someone like shooting any of the guns Because I think we were just trying to set up these really extra things I'm gonna say this to this to this to this and but like all of those things are shooting at me as I'm doing it Yeah, and so it just it sucks I think that I remember that being a problem three two Yeah, like you have all these tools at your disposal But like you want to use them to great effect but like in practice you're just like well I'm just gonna attack one balloon to this guy and make a fly away to get the fuck out of here Or I'm just gonna shoot him. What about the tornado stuff? I haven't seen any like there's the intro cutscene is like you not being able to kill the bad guy because he made a tornado Okay, and then that that's all that there's been so far.

I heard he's a big fan of weather Yeah, he loves it big weather guy. I'll broker and You know, there's issues with the teat engine script where like some damage damages you so thoroughly that but you don't actually die So the game gets stuck in like a red screen like pulled back You know, it's it's not built to do this But they should build a game to do this because like they should just put in toggles sort of like fuck it man Like hey, we know these escort missions have tight timers and all this other stuff But like what if you just had fun, but it's like have a little sandbox mode Yeah, it seems weird that they don't have that because that's like the game just isn't good enough to be worth it Like the only thing that I think is really cool about it is the balloons and the boosters and the tethers And like having to play an open world game where every all these tanks keep showing up and shooting at you Because you blew up a tank in the middle of trying to make it fly away You know, it's just it's just getting away from it drags it back down to earth As like I guess you're just fighting these cops forever That's like just kind of an identity crisis. Totally. Yeah, absolutely man It's a shame and you know just cause to didn't get like great great great until they made weird mods for it So, you know, this seems like it's one or two mods away from being something It would be really fun to fuck around with but as it stands, it's like you see the hints of it But then it's like here's this kind of middling mission-based shooter Overworld thing that kind of words, you know, it wore out It's welcome a little bit.

I think last time around like, you know, same fact deal with the wing suits a parachute to grapple You know that pole thing is still there. It's still intact. It's fine. So it used to be no, it's not It's really not a lot of time as best But you know, I think that there someone had some cool ideas along the way But yeah, also like a PC version is just kind of bizarre in some ways Where it's just like why is the image quality is really rough?

And on top of that like the pre-rendered cutscenes look like really low-res YouTube videos at times So it's like do you want to keep the file size down? Like still not a small download It's weird so it's so disappointing because it's like you wanted to think three was like either transitioning to a different studio Like they didn't quite nail it, but now they have a time or have a chance to figure out where the series is actually going But it's like they just kind of made another one with like one new thing posted an update to seem Kind of talking about like the future of the game a little bit and they opened it with Hey, we're just a small team out here in New York. Huh working on this game I was like, huh, like this is the fourth just cause game Yeah, from a published by Square and barely major publisher from a publisher that is across two large studios now Like like I don't doubt that it is probably a smallish team or something. I didn't go look at the credits or whatever Like I'm not saying I don't believe them, but I don't think you get to like Like that's not a heart-string.

I think they can tug on in this case because this is an established franchise that has been better before I mean, I feel for the developers doing the whole situation like it sucks to not be funded properly or to Yeah, or you know, or whatever it was But it's just is a weird it's a weird way to open like hey, here's here's what we're working on bear with us Yeah, it's like we'll wait this, you know, yeah, the ship in December. It didn't need a ship in December Like could you have taken the time to really nail it? So it's that's weird. I don't know Um, let me know the fault lies with the publisher and all that stuff like they're the ones making those calls Yeah, so another weird decision by square.

That's right. Yeah, they've had a messy year. That seems Concerning for the future of that franchise. Yeah, it's hard for me to imagine that you just caused five existing.

Yeah, honestly Yeah, maybe maybe maybe there doesn't need to be yeah, let Rico rest. That's right Oh, there we need them. I'll still get that thing to try because I have to but that's still like that sounds underwhelming Maybe I'll just play just two again. That's also an option Like you see the hints of like some really cool ideas here Yeah, that you're like, okay, it's not like if they just built a full game around with the cool ideas They have been yeah as opposed to shoving these cool ideas off of the side Or shoving them into an established game that was already like hey, here's how you know like go on this mission We called the weather master.

Yeah, give them all that shit. All right. No good to know Um, okay games simmer games. There were a lot of them.

Yeah, let's take a quick break and then come back talk about the game awards This weekend news as mentioned the game awards happened a bunch of stuff came out of it. Let's talk about it all Let's uh game. It's cool that I heard. Yeah, finally breaking news.

I know I no longer have shame That's not true Um, we go back to every x and see like uh-huh actually you fucked up It's my mind the launch of that a game store is the easily the biggest thing That's big. Yeah, and the details around it. I mean, you know, we talked about Hades that is out exclusively Ashin and also for the moment is exclusive. They launched the store Uh, ashin Hades and hello neighbor hide and seek are the only games currently available In addition to the epic stuff, but I guess that's shadow complex and fortnite tournament I guess well fortnite is free, so that's kind of still just shadow complex is not no that's true Um, it was at one point.

Yes, uh, they have announced that in the very near future darksiders three subnautica and super me Boy will be coming to the store. Uh, here are the other games that are currently confirmed to be coming Genesis alpha one from team 17 journey also journey. Come to PC. Yeah.

Oh that game company, you know, oh, right? I didn't realize anapurna is involved with the PC release of that that checks out Yes, that's very much the type of doing anapurna kind of extremely, uh, I guess huh I don't think they ever came out and flat out said like so we had like permanent exclusivity on it anything I did not expect to ever see that game on the PC that's cool Uh, may need a tripwire interactive outer wilds from Mobius digital rebel galaxy outlaw Satisfactory from coffee scene studios. It's a good name. Don't know anything about the game.

How do I know when it's satisfactory? Uh, you'll know super meet boy forever from team meet the pathless from giant squid That's the new game from the developers of abzu Uh and world war z from saber interactive those are the games that are currently confirmed and rebel galaxy outlaw is They they put out like a q&a saying like hey, yes We are exclusive to the store for some chunk of time and people don't like hey What's up with that? I'm like kind of trying to head off some of the potential criticisms of that and They wrote a thing kind of saying like yeah, no, it's it's a good business thing for us right now It's a good money. Yeah, I guess it's worth pointing out Hades is exclusive until they come out early access Yeah, that's all I saw great because I didn't say an interview like yeah, it'll probably come to steam after yeah After we're out of early access, but that's what is that a year and a half?

Yeah, it's probably ways off. It'll be a way all the ways off Is rebel galaxy outlaw the new one. Yeah, what's the super cool looking one that is not? Yeah, they have this shit That's a big gift.

I can also and they need those exclusive man. Yeah, yeah, otherwise sure Where stands, you know, they uh, this is kind of cool. I mean it's very obviously just a play to build user base But they will be giving away a free game every two weeks for the next year So starting on the 14th, which I believe is Friday. That sounds right.

Uh, you can get Super Meat Boy anyone? Sure. Super Meat Boy. I see Meat Boy forever.

Uh, just regular Meat Boy. Okay. Yeah, no, I'm sorry. I've got it backwards.

Uh, Subnautica is first. Okay. You can get Subnautica for PC. Uh, two weeks later on the 28th, you can get Super Meat Boy.

Are these yours to keep forever? I believe that is the case. Okay. Um, yeah, I think just sign into the launcher and click claim Sweet.

I'll be there for it anyway. Like they said, they will cover kind of revenue loss revenue with the developers for those two weeks Um, so yeah, you know, it's not a bad way to build a little bit of a library on there I mean, you know, they already and build a user base for them from business perspective Like this is, you know, right in line with the time when they gave away shadow complex Yeah, uh, on their launcher to try to get people into it and then you know, Fortnite being Fortnite And what's yeah, what's their insane number? It's like 200 million or something like that. I mean, that's ever platform though, right?

That's not that's not 200 million people with this sort of pretty decent size of like phone. Yeah, you sure don't you still like across the board? You tied it's theoretically people that have an epic account that if they were to ever buy a computer They would be hey, you've already got some stuff on this. So I'm just gonna.

I'm gonna stay claim here. You should have a computer Yeah, did you hear smartphones are on the way out here? It's pretty cool. It's a good thing to have.

Yeah, um, Drake made computing cool I think that's all the big stuff the free games the exclusivity the revenue split stuff Yeah, we got to the rest with stuff laughing because I guess that's before it launched. They were out there talking about that That's pretty much everything they've said at the point. Uh, you made it sound it's off the show like you don't think the client is especially great It's not I guess I would agree with you. No, no, I barely used it Just just started up and then salty The developer cooks are delicious was out there is a blog on Gama Sutra kind of saying some of the same stuff that it's just It seems very underwhelming from a feature set perspective and some of the stuff that they got out there And said they're not going to do like forums.

They're not gonna do forums I think it's smart. Yeah, and they were like, hey, if a developer wants that type of interaction, they can link to their You know whatever the fuck they've got that can be on their store page But a lot of stuff they talked about, you know, is stuff that is just not there yet achievements like mods like a workshop equivalent And this is all stuff they've said like hey, we're looking we're building towards this We want to get there and you know, they're being very curatorial with which games appear on the store right now But they've said that they will open it up next year And it doesn't necessarily seem like that's gonna be something where they're gonna have an eye to quality You know, like it seems like when they open up the flood gates, they're gonna open up the fucking flood game You see what it's known to seem. Yeah, um, and and so I don't I don't expect them to Like go out of their way to try to to do better with that stuff I expect them to just be like, oh, you know, we're a store sell your stuff Uh, but you know, it's weird for them to you know be the Fortnite company making this big push into this space Like try to take on steam whether they're gonna frame it that way or not And not have you know, they've got a friend's list and you can kind of chat and do some blocked stuff You know, but it's just the little bits and pieces of features you expect a store front to have just aren't there yet Yeah, and sure they've they'll have achievements someday. They'll they'll build in better mod support down the line But something that's like making a first impression.

Yeah, it seems weird that doesn't Like at the same time it seems like an early act that thing is remarkably bare bones When you just click around it like there's next to nothing there at the same time The games that they launched with all three of them might not have mod support to begin with So they don't need it yet But then maybe they won't need it until they open those flood gates and they'll have it by then But I think from a perspective of like trying to make a big splash and say hey We're here to be an alternative storefront. Yeah, it just seems like they they aren't They're talking They made a good case of developers for why they should go with epic to sell their games But they could yeah, there's definitely an opportunity for them to write a case to customers as to why this is like better They're friendly or whatever like there are some so far all they've said is like hey free games Yeah, like there are some things that seem just does horribly like the clouds. They have support on steam is abysmal Yeah, like no control over it. I don't know that this has cloud support I don't think it does that's what I mean we played we played Hades on Friday and nothing came in It's like a huge problem on steam with review bombing like you know being able to get They're not gonna have reviews or or if they do, you know, they're looking at it I think it's what they said maybe written only or something or directly developers will be able to turn off reviews if they don't want them You know and that's something you can set per game.

Yeah, that's that's such a bad solution That's never gonna be a good luck if your game is good turn on the review It's like that's a weird one for sure. The revenue stuff split is really split stuff is great Like that that is a no-brainer or competition on that front. I think it's great. Yeah, and whatever like it's They maybe don't need that stuff today, but I think if they had more of that stuff today I think people would feel better about it.

I've seen like more people like not necessarily for this than I would Yeah, I guess you know some people they get all their games in steam and they just don't want to run multiple launchers Which I get I have seen a fair amount of Billy's I've seen some people referring to it as the 10th You know weirdly In a weird way like this really helps discord because if you think about like how you're gonna see people all over the place on different clients and stuff Discord is still that unifying like right? Hey, these people are playing this game. These people are playing this game. That's uh, Tencent fully acquired discord or religious.

No, I think they just invest in it. I don't think they fully inquire acquire anything It's like, yeah, a little like here. Here are two new Tencent backs game storefronts on the PC now like kind of competing with each other. Yeah, that's a weird one Yeah, um But yeah, most of the complaints I've seen seem a lot more focused on just like hey seem like for all of its fault Steam is a pretty feature rich like mature.

Yeah, client slash larger than listening into this space as and you're not you know Like I feel like discord so or I give it some leeway because like they don't have a history of this stuff And you know they are relatively new to the space in the grand scheme of thing and this word Like they also did some decent stuff around the community ends. Yeah, this word offers some stuff It seems not like evidence does by the way that valve like desperately trying to catch up and launch a discord like community thing Uh, but like I don't know I guess I just I think I think is a big enough name and they've they've got a big enough game with fortnite to where Like, you know, they've got the money to get this right is I guess how I feel about that maybe three months from now Is as old I bet they get there like I bet they get there before people even need any of those features But like cloud saves and that sort of stuff like that's probably meaningful now right now Uh like just as an end user you know looking at two games or looking at the same gaming soul for the same price on the two services Like this one is pretty thin Yeah, so and I'm probably never gonna leave multiple clients open and running really on my my machine I've started running all the ones I've installed just to like keep things updated keep myself informed of how ridiculous it's starting to get Yeah, like I just want to be origin running. Yeah, like I looked at my tree over the weekend Like I just want to like I want to bear the full brunt of icons of my system pretty I mean and it's like steam origin battle net epic no TSRs, man I don't want anything taking a bram. She got me one other one Boop Boop Boop.

I know I don't run Bethesda all the time. Yeah, so I run discord and I run steam Yeah, like my second monitor is pretty much big ass discord window big ass steam window Uh and it doesn't have to be seen like it could be anything You know if another if another thing came along and it was fine like I'm not married to seem per se but uh Yeah, I don't think I don't envision myself like when I when I wanted to play Hades over the weekend I launched the client yeah launch Hades and then quit out of everything at the end and did not leave any of running I mean, you know it installs an icon for the game itself You know you can just gonna watch the game and not pay much and I guess some offline games I think this maybe came out of the rebel galaxy q&a if I remember right I'm not sure but I think it came out of like hey if you were if you were an offline game, you can actually quit the launcher Oh, that's cool. So I don't know. Oh weird What it is what it is.

Yeah. Oh, yeah It's a massive company with an insane amount of revenue. I'm sure they will get where they need to be Yeah, but yeah, it's a little bit of a a Soft launch. Yes softer than I would have expected.

Yeah, uh, and yeah, um, all right No, no, I mean it was like fine. Yeah, yes, yes Um All right from the biggest news to the weirdest news. This is the biggest news fucking what weird news a third marvel Ultimate alliance is coming exclusively through the switch developed by team ninja fucking what? Okay.

Yeah, I just I'm all for this uh sure. Yeah, I just I'm still just like baffled how these How these things came together. I would be a little more Yeah, I'd be a little more worried about this if that diablo 3 port didn't prove like Yeah, the switch can handle these kinds of games except I don't know what this is because that trailer makes it look a lot more like a character action kind of game Yeah, so you watch trailers. Yeah, it's like some of the cinematic second.

I don't want anything spoiled. Um, is that iron man? There's a shot of iron man. Why would it be ridiculous?

Um, yeah, so I yeah, that's that's I'm I also did not watch the trailer and now I am completely uninterested in this I mean I don't know for sure because I was about to say man if you were gonna make a marvel ultimate alliance three for switch I would probably get the team what put diablo 3 on the switch I mean there's not a single shot in that trailer of like isometric overhead right diablo style loop game Yeah, that may be what the game is but like why would you even call it marvel ultimate alliance three if it's something different right? That's weird. I don't know they had the circles around the characters. I don't know what you guys Yeah, we're seeing.

Yeah, I don't know. I mean it might just be the way the trailer is like framed Okay, maybe you want to make it look more exciting than the actual game is gonna be But the yeah, make it less exciting a lot of the attacks look very like cinematic. Yeah in a way that yeah You know, I mean as a developer to made a bunch of ninja guide and games and stuff like that and say metroid other in Another M. Why evoke that here?

I don't see it's a weird thing. I mean, I'm glad there is a third marvel of middle-eyes game coming Yeah, I just don't know if I'm gonna be glad after I play it. I don't know what to make of it We'll see also known surprisingly, you know, it is it is completely Marvel cinematic universe Oh, yeah, all those treatments of characters like it's weird because that series predates all that stuff, you know I think I just want my Marvel heroes back. Yeah, or another game that is that Diablo.

Yeah, I just I didn't get a sense if this is like that kind of loot driven thing or not from a strailer It's hard to say. Yeah. Yeah, there was definitely something there with marvel heroes. Yeah, um It's got leaked.

I think the day of the game awards, but I knew for crying is coming for crying new dawn next February It is kind of more or less a direct sequel to for 35. Okay, like straight up says set in hope county again So they're using the same apps. Okay. Yes.

Yes this time. They are owning the fact that it's the same map and have a reason for it Um, yeah, how much was primal? Do you remember was that full priced? I want to say it was full price But I guess I don't know okay.

They announced this at 40 bucks So yeah, they are not a secret out of the fact that it's kind of a fall on the five and Like the teaser trailer kind of put this in line of like hey This is taking place like if it's taking place after the events of our cry five then you are playing in a wasteland. Yes Yeah, well, it's a pretty like lush colorful wasteland, but yes, okay Everything's all overgrown with vegetation like oh, so like post waste lands can waste land post post Yeah, watch this earlier. How about the teaser? Yeah, like they're biting.

Well, I'm sure this game was in development for before rage 2 got announced, but they're kind of biting rage 2 style Yeah, we were recording podcasts. I didn't watch any of this in game awards. Yeah, uh, it's very pink Yeah, and there's a lot of dune buggies and craft weapons gratitude feels a lot like that but I don't know that far cry 5 did vehicles all that well, so I don't know this You know, it'd just be really nice to get like a post apocalypse game That's that plays well and because it haven't really been any of those recently nope. Um definitely not The messaging has references to like a home base that you'll be building up throughout the game But it doesn't necessarily sound like building it manually Uh, I don't think it's like I don't think it's like fallout 76 style build a base out of components The thing is there was a certain aspect of far cry primal that was like you kind of building up your yeah Kind of sounds more like that is fairly passes really goes to show you how bad fallout is that they're ruining entire genres And like some genres of video games making people worried about them before they even out Building on scap you good Yeah, it made it sound more like I recruit new and fill your faces and train them there and build weapons there and stuff like that It didn't sound like you're actually building in the base.

Yeah itself as such Yeah Yeah, we'll see 40 bucks. Uh, they're doing a remake of crash team racing. Oh, it's a remake Okay, they say it's rebuilt from the ground up Whoever was asking for that crash team racing is one of the few non-Mario cart Mario carts that was really good So if you were gonna do one that this is probably the one yeah They've already got all those hd crash assets, right? Yeah, it's been ox doing it.

I mean, whatever I guess this was inevitable after that crash man could remake was super well Right like they did this by everything now. They're doing this what else an activation got kicking around Call of Duty battle gun edition. Yeah. Yeah, Call of Duty battle edition What is the best call of duty right about apocalypse?

Yeah, let's get it. Let's get it. Let's get it Bruce Well, it's back in there po and their faces do it right this time Uh hella games announced a new game. It's called the last campfire Oh, it's a souls game.

Anybody. Yeah. Anybody watch any of these trailers? Yeah.

No, we did not watch the game or we were recording All right, they didn't show much in the trailer like yeah, well, I'm just hard. Yeah, they show it They describe it as a hella game short. Okay. Oh, yeah, that's right.

Yeah, so it's the developers of lost wins Oh, we're gonna drop him in huh, and this is sort of a side project Yeah, like this is not like a the next game from hella games. What was lost wins. Yeah, there's that VR game Yeah, there's a VR optional that it's like a weird grappling hook. Yeah, it was like a light VR kind of thing It was a weird thing.

Yeah, it had some neat ideas. It was like neat ideas for early VR. Sure. Yeah Um, this is totally not that.

This is like an overhead they describe it as like an adventure kind of game Uh, it's a lot of sense of gameplay from watching it, but it's got a super pretty art style So I wonder if this is like a the signifier that hello games is gonna parlay some of its fortunes from no man's sky into polishing Yeah, indie games that kind of seems like well sort of but it also sounds like those developers are maybe under their roof now Oh, I don't know. That's kind of how I read it. I could be wrong, but yeah, this does come off as like hey, we Did okay. Yeah, let's turn some of that into some some other smaller games.

Yeah, again Take money to make money. Yeah, but literally it is under the label a hello games short. So huh, it's it's yeah, that's cool It was what that means, but it's right gonna be a small scale thing Um obsidian announced the outer wild. I'm sorry.

The outer world's there. Yeah, outer wild is a different game I keep making that mistake also. Yes So this is the game that is 2k published. Yeah, even though obsidian is not one by microsoft.

This game still comes to ps4 They had to come out. They had to come out and be like hey, this is not a microsoft game Right. We this is a separate deal with take two that we already had it's actually take two is uh, what is their private? Private division private division is that what it is?

You don't want private divisions. Yeah, it's their most private. I guess it's kind of like their little boutique Yes, boutique label for that like Kerbal when they when they pick up Kerbal Kerbal technically a private division release sure It's the fresh games of take two. Yeah, exactly.

Yes, mr. Mosquito. Um, this thing looks ambitious as hell Like it looks full on like expensive full-sized RPG from obsidian. Not like, you know, they've been doing a lot of isometric stuff and like But it's this first person.

Yeah, it's version like you just buy by exploring planets like characters are very high detail Yeah, the people I think the the things I keep seeing people reference are Firefly. Yes. This thing is like firefly means bio shots. Yes Like the bioshock part is like there's a bunch of old-timey advertising because corporations run Yeah, no that that's now a face you just made corporation says like, hey, man firefly, right?

Corporations run this frontier and everything is all like an old-timey term turn of the century pomade label looking design. Yeah, uh Yeah, I don't know the world where no those properties ever existed this would look cool and interesting But like I feel like this. Yeah, we can make about it in terms of just like what fallout is the thing that technically exists Yeah, and also like they're building this is like from the original creators. Yeah, I guess in that sense This sort of follows on from that but just that whole retro future aesthetic is kind of played at this point.

Yeah But yeah, like the trailer straight up says from the original creators of fallout and the developers of Fallout New Vegas like yeah It's that's you know, that is that is plenty to get certain parts of the internet or losing their minds But like if you dig into that are the people who you if you think of as the people that made those great obsidian games It's still that obsidian. I mean have alone is gone, but you know, yeah a lot of those black islander play types are totally still there Yeah, like a lot of people as far as I know a good number of people that work on New Vegas Or some of them are still there some names we shall see yeah, uh promising yeah like in theory for sure Yeah, like, you know, there's definitely room for someone else to try to make a game that kind of maybe gets into that Fallout realm like maybe it'll just not will it be more buggy or less buggy? I don't know who knows city and has its own track record for sure I mean it's hard to say exactly what the gameplay is like other than first-person shooter of some type. Yeah Like if anything button to freeze time and target different limbs if anything the exploration stuff looks It's called fat fucking all-time stops The exploration stuff looks a little bit sky to me like a lot of colorful alien and vegetation type stuff Uh, it looks promising.

Totally. Yeah It's like sure did they just put a 2019 on that kind of Uh, they they dialed in a deeper. Yeah, it's 2019. So they must have been doing this for a point Yeah, this is yeah way before my trucking away.

They now have that private division thing like like that They hey that we're polishing next to city game like that's old. Okay, so this was kind of Pudgy you get a winner map, which is out on the test server now. Yeah, I hear it's quite good. Yes I've heard the same yeah From people who would know to know fire out snowmobiles.

I don't believe so sadly. No ATVs probably Skis they're adding a yacht to call a duty blackout today Like a little map zone. Yeah, like hey, there's now a boat out in this section of water where there wasn't anything before and it's patterned after An existing multiplayer map. Yeah, all right That actually put out today.

I've not checked out either added a character to the multiplayer, right? I super want to see it. So yeah, huh. Yeah, it's a right heart new abilities.

Yeah, chunker Man. Yeah, she's a hacker Name's zero because this is only nine words. Oh, zero probably I don't know. There's only like nine words you can use to denote I am a hacker in big budget entertainment and zero is right at the top of the fucking list Uh, the makers of arc studio wild card are making a and what they describe as an MMO survival game with pirates Very pirathemed in a mo survival art thing.

Could you find some more genre words? Wow Crafting the trailer looks revival decent free to play uh early access from what I've what I've looked at uh It looks pretty good. Okay. Cool.

I've been I've been lied to before I've had pirates. I had pirates games Yeah, well, that's the thing right like a big multiplayer pirate game. There's uh, there's an opening there. I thought Bobby Benita and Barry bonds were gonna stay together forever and they broke my heart and I've trusted pirate sense It looked pretty good The map is huge.

They say there you go. There's a dragon age four teaser or a dragon age teaser or whatever. They end up calling it. Yeah Not a whole lot there.

They also ran an anthem trailer that is out soon. How soon is that? February. Okay.

Yeah, I mean It's gonna be a busy February like the individual employees of by where have been out there sort of implying that a new dragon age was Developed but yeah, first time that he has a first time. I think they've officially said it Okay, uh, because there's a lot of talk. I think even though same employees were like, oh, yeah They kind of got back burner because it's all hands on anthem. Oh god But yeah, at least they're far enough along to say We're gonna announce this thing so that it now is a game that has to be killed Um, but whatever not that it wasn't gonna happen But you know like there's that you guys definitely known of devs that have been toiling away on a game At ea for a long time without getting announced and they were scared They were like the game has been announced and they just walk in and killed at any point And so they almost want the game to leak or want the game to get announced just so there's like some paper trail that has to be accounted for Uh in the event that came doesn't happen.

No, it now has to be like a public thing that the company looks bad for In hopes that it's ways in their favor. I don't know whatever actually does but whatever. Yeah, um, I wonder if it's next to your game It's a possible probably not drag age probably Not if they have not if they had a pause. I can't imagine that can I have them being out?

Yeah, like the only way that works is if a different team has been working on it this whole time, right? I don't even from the sound of it. I don't even know if that's a 2020 game. Honestly, maybe not that in starfield Oh god, that sounds ambitious for starfield Yeah, starfield.

No, I mean that starfield is shipping at the same time. Oh, yes, sir. Both of the men in 2020. Sure.

Uh, sure No, yeah, I don't know which one of those comes out first dragon age dragon age. Yeah, your brother starfield is a 2021. Maybe two now Mmm. Here's mmm.

Yeah, okay. If anthem tanks does dragon age still happen or does at some point they just walk away from by where's a concept and I mean wasn't that kind of the gist of that reporting a while back? Like kind of the future by where sort of riding on it? Maybe I don't know.

I mean, you know someone's feeling good enough about it to tease dragon age. Yeah, so there's that We'll see. Um, if anthem doesn't hit If anything doesn't hit what does it? Yeah, master master master back in that and then that is kind of rough.

Yeah, a rough track record to come back from We'll see it played well at you three And then we're gonna let him out. Yeah. Oh, yeah, I guess we're in evil raid and phase dark Raiden dark Raiden has my all my knowledge of the cannon red lightning Raiden. Yeah, don't let everyone else is too What's you get into like game four-ish territory?

Yeah, it's like all right shanaka the amulet and then don't say that name in here The candy dogu all right Uh, they showed a little bit of frost at the end of that. Yeah, because I think that was and they're like multiple scorpions Wait, is that also there's a custom there's a lot of character customization, right? Oh, is that what they were getting out with that? It's just maybe that might be scorpions that might just be like I bet it's multiple scorpions like multiple Versions of scorpions.

So I think you probably have there was a leak out of ili Italian GameStop Posted some details on some of the creative character stuff sure that made it sound like there would also be movesets and stuff like that too Oh, wow, okay, so it could be but yeah, also in the lower who knows maybe those two scorpions Yeah, they've broken the seal on time travel exactly times at this point. So who knows that's my guess Uh, but it bothers me, but the trailer is like remarkably dory even by more combat standards There's something I think this is also out of that that supposed Italian GameStop leak Which I just saw translated and actually see it much for myself, but the words gortech Yeah, as word capital T where you use it doesn't score games there Doesn't score being a panel right in through the face with his spear at one point. I'm like that close. Yeah, it's a lot Yeah, if you're that team and you spend a bunch of time working on T rated injustice games for a while It's not what you're like we need to fucking murder people.

Yeah. Yeah So the leak that was floating around last week that I didn't talk about last week because it's leak Called the announcement of this game that same leak also said that this game will have a shall in month style single player game That's interesting or mode like a cool which I just did this pretty awesome I feel like we're also like post reboot getting back into that territory where the game started having really elaborate story modes So do something like I can't just keep making that game over the next one of the more combat 12 is gonna be a 3d weapon fighter Yeah, with like lights under the light bar. Is that like you hear what you're saying? You're not safe where you're standing like a story mode in What do we call it nine the reboot never like like a story mode where you just fight Like just do straight up fights was fine for me when I was getting to relive the story of the first game So like this really cinematic wave and now that they're past that I need to play the x story mode like the first hour of it I didn't really grab me too much.

It was all right Characters and stuff like it was it was all right But like the novelty of that first game was just like oh what were they doing at night at the tournament? You know like oh they were getting into shit like that stuff was cool like I was just like a movie Yeah, now we're talking like there was nostalgic value to that. Yes to the point I was like alright. I'm fine to just do AI fights for this mode But now like I you know I could use something different there and the answer is always to combine the crypt of unlockable weird stuff with your story mode So you've got some big elaborate world to run around and you know like all that sort of stuff I don't know if that challenge looks tough.

It's true or if it'll be exactly like that that game is better than it had any right to be Challenge mucks. Yeah. Oh, yeah, that's really good. It's a super cool game.

Uh, so I and yeah kind of as expected They're still on there every other April really schedule for this. Yeah. Yeah, come on April as we just announced it Way later. Yeah, they're having a separate event to show gameplay next month.

Yeah, you got any like dream DLC characters They know it's it's really not like I I'm not I don't care about crossover characters from movies So I mostly don't but then there's still like novelty and seeing the predator there It's just like it's less of oh, I've been wanting to play as the predator in a fighting even more Oh, that's a character that actually fits kind of in the mythos of this. Yeah, I think they I think they've chosen well But for me conceptually so for me the characters of Mortal Kombat are way more impactful and matter more to me than the predator Or any of the other characters they've dragged in you know crados or you know, what Freddy Krueger and stuff like that It's just like oh, that's cool, but you know else is cool sub motherfucking zero And yes the whole yeah, you know who's awesome kung-lau that guy can spin his hat cuts people. That's fucking great Johnny Cage fuck that guy. What a dick So you're luck because one of the things that leaks that is the Johnny Cage will not be playable in this game.

What? I don't know. Who knows if I die who knows the best story. It's time before Put him on a tombstone in three.

Um, he'll be a deal security. Yeah, uh, so yeah, I don't know like the way they've done guess characters I think fits for them and yeah and makes sense, but it's never just just not To me Mortal Kombat is the lore I care about in the minute they start dragging them in The world ever do you really drink the deal see characters into the same sort? No, you're right. They don't but just like including them in there I feel like it doesn't really it cheapens it in a weird way.

Yeah, where it's like I'm I'm I'm of the view that Mortal Kombat stands on its own. Yeah, and doesn't need that shit. I agree Uh, I don't know where else Jason Voorhees would go though. Slash.

Yeah. Yeah, okay. Yeah, I can see that Is down B is really crazy, right? Yeah Is that B is like a upward stab?

Yeah, it's crazy Uh one more story that I forgot. Uh Joker from Persona 5 is coming to smash as DLC. Yeah, I think that's cool It's the first uh DLC character. I would rather it be a four character, but that's totally good.