Giant Bombcast 567: Two Arms Holding It Open

January 22nd 2019 is the date the time it's like 11 just about this is now. This is our time It's right at the clock Bobcast let's go. Yeah, let's go wrestling intro actually. Yeah, you're yelling over there I'm just been filling in for Brad you maker who was out playing unreleased video games today.

Oh, yeah Which is nice Yeah, I'm interested to see what he comes back with that'll be I'm there's been a lot of talk about it. Yeah, okay That's right. No, you don't get to know We're here with giant bomb cast Jason a striker's here. Hello.

Hello. How you doing? I'm doing great now fantastic Ben pack is in the building hello Great, all right. I've been sleeping a lot.

Should we do that one again? All right back is here And three two and it's been pack And I'm here to say I like video games in a major way. All right Yeah, Jan Okay, all right cut the shit Do this off air at least no. Hey, how's it going y'all?

It's going all right? What's cooking good looking whoa? All right, that's I'm gotta go to HR. Oh, so that's like you're getting in trouble.

Yeah, that's okay I can't show a promo show out there. I'm sorry. I'm sorry HR should have to use your full name whenever they talk to you They know what it is. That's for sure.

Uh, we're here. We're here to talk about video games and other stuff. Yeah Have a crack at video Okay, we'll start with pop culture at large. I spilled hot coffee on my crush yesterday So, yeah, that's I got to get a lawyer Is it can you sue who you sue if you spill it on yourself like It shouldn't have been that hot.

Yeah, it shouldn't have been that hot They should have given you a warning. Yeah, stating that it was like scalding the makers of the cup holder the little cardboardy kind of thing at large That's what's available on me and dumps coffee over into my general region. Yeah, probably my general triangle got lit the fuck up Yeah Soundboard at home It was a bummer There it was unfortunate. Yeah, I was gonna drink that drink.

How did you dry off? Just let it air dry? Uh, well, it was very cold out. I was in the car.

Okay, so made a mess in the car I thought I was getting out of the car trying to get these drinks situated sure and then it just dumped over I don't I should I just think it already failed once and I already I already dropped the drink once no getting into the car I had a lawyer. I'd forbid you from saying Okay, I don't know anything about why half the drink was already gone, but and why's a portion of it was on the side of my car God fucking man. Holy shit. That was this morning.

That was last night. That was last night. Yeah I had a night coffee last night My wife needed some drink from coffee place and I was like, why don't I get something for me, too? Why not?

Exactly exactly to scalding hot crotch For other people to treat you just scalding hot crudges myself. Yeah, I want it right up And then I got extremely cold Cuz I could I had to open the door like I went full like fucking old man like ah god damn it I got these cups like I threw the cup on my lawn and Basically, yeah And then stood out in the freezing cold air for a little while and it cooled quite quickly. Okay, but uh, yeah That's how that's that basically I feel like dropping coffee twice. That's how things have been going for me.

Okay. That's pretty much sums up like Fucking myself up in stupid ways and it's like ah god. Yeah having shit go wrong. That's basically been the last month or so of things That sounds great 2019 baby.

Yeah, I figured it's like that has to be the culmination Yeah, like I'm just like up. Yeah, don't coffee on the balls I didn't think about the matter messing the car where you could have spilled it the third time Yeah, if yeah, if I kept going I'm just drops out fills up your cup holder whoops I fell over and then this coffee cup fell in the air and then it landed right in my be hole and now I feel like it's the only way to be your right sure. Yes, and then it turned out to have like whatever Amoebas are in the unclean water, and then I get a brain virus on top of that. Yeah, I guess okay That could have been worse.

I didn't think about the brain virus. I didn't think about the brain virus Is that fair trade though for the coffee the brain virus? Yeah, it's a free trade a single origin laptop table brain virus that they give you there That's my stuff. Mmm, a rabbit guy Delicious as a person that is almost spilled coffee on a person while serving them.

Mm-hmm. It's not a good time No, it's not a good time. Yeah, yeah, the coffee shop I used to work at had way too high of counters and You know, there's people coming all different shapes and sizes But there'd be times where customers would be ordering coffee and I could just not see them I see the top of their head On top of their head not their bottom of their chest. No, because with even I could just look up And then like I put place their coffee on the counter and then as they were also reaching for it Oh, no, it slowly started tipping and then I just slapped it out of their hand So it wouldn't fall on them and then won't behold they had a baby on them.

Oh, so you slapped a baby mother Yep, 2019. All right, great. I made her a fresh cup of coffee But then this after slapping back up a coffee out of her hand Mm-hmm, but that time I walked it around to give it to her rather than just here you are Yeah, I see like it could have been ratcheted up at that point if you had slapped the coffee into the face of someone else It was just like standing with a newspaper and then coffee comes through the newspaper Yes disintegrating the newspaper in the process that could have been like a villain's origins right exactly you could have created a Bean man. No, I don't know.

That's not bad. That's a teeny seagull. Yeah. There you go.

You created beanie-seagull congratulations. Thank you beans It's gonna go caffeine crazy. Yeah On your be hole. Give you a brain tumor.

Some people do that coffee under this Anyway Wait you open a different way. Yeah. Well, it's like some people do like this It's the whole like a you know pouring vodka like or you know Yeah, I mean if you have to give it a name I feel like I was talking about that before it had a fancy name but chugging but chugging Exactly wait the marine yeah But chug to be a good name there was a episode of My strange addiction. Yeah watch that.

No, I've seen it. I mean like you know I've seen that there was an episode of that Oh, like it was a couple that was addicted to coffee enemas coffee enemas They just like we're just like not the bug they were making coffee. No, that's a whole different I watched the guy have that done to him against his will in a bathroom once but anyway, okay, it was a rough bar Yeah, they were making coffee by the like the in on a stove. It seemed like they just had like a big huge advance of coffee They were like all right pour this in a button.

Let's go. It's a good stuff. So like hot still like I don't know I don't watch a lot of television. I watched every episode of that show Coffee crutch I couldn't imagine it going in exactly that I mean that woke me up.

Yeah, I was like not for very long But there was a myth there was fuck it felt alive. Yeah. Yeah, uh You gotta get like a good funnel to like withstand that heat. Oh, yeah Yeah, you're not getting a plastic funnel at that point.

Yeah, but if you I guess like you want like a metal on the inside Plastic on the outside right right because you don't want it to be hot to the touch I mean, they probably thought about this process. Oh, yeah I probably hear a few times. Yeah, I know if you're using a funnel to put things in your ass at all I feel like well, no, either you thought about it like all the way. Yeah, or not at all I'm thinking about it now.

Oh, I'm sure but there's no middle ground in that you've either like spent like weeks going like all right Okay, we got a file down the edge on this because look at it is crazy or you're just like fuck. Yeah, yeah Anyways Tuesday morning everyone Yeah, we don't know where you are. Yeah, it'd be after hours. It's an after-hour show nice Where do we go from coffee enemies?

Games how about them? They're like a different kind of animal. It's an animal for the mind. Yeah, more soul Mortal Kombat 11 Yes, that's the subtitle for it actually and I'm up for the soul Yeah, has that been a fatality giving someone a violent enema?

No, I mean, we haven't seen all the fatality. Yeah, I've not seen all the M11 fatalities, but you know, it's hard it's hard to say No, generally I feel like they don't necessarily go around the nether what realm. Yeah, not too much With that be a friendship, you know, it depends on the circumstances a lot of stuff, you know, I don't want to So there I've been having some disturbances. I need to do that.

Yeah, make a look for my buddy and get that fun. The wizard Quan Chi Girl's got all those arms that been really easy for him. You got to hold it open to put it in. Oh, he could do it to himself That's true.

Yeah, yeah, you're right. Yeah, right. Yeah, that's just it in the car to hold it open is not the that's the part That was over the line for me personally is a visual of a visual of Gordon's lower arms be used. Yeah.

Yeah, okay. Yeah, there you go. No, you found it You found it. No, but it was Jesus.

He went down to see that game. I went to LA for the big Mortal Kombat 11 event Where they reveal the game, you know, if you remember they did not announce the game at E3. Yeah, um, so one of them too That's the game awards, right? Yes.

Yeah, they announced in the game awards and then at that point They said hey, we're gonna reveal the thing in January and it's coming out in April That's pretty cool. So it's pretty much the same timetable that they've always been on every every April they tend to put out a game And so we're we're here again And yeah about the party. So yeah, so they had it was like a warehouse in Korea town and they had it was like a lot of a It was a fan of it. There was a so I got an address Me, you know what?

I didn't get an address. I got a street corner really and and so which felt very like yeah It's like underground fight. Yeah, so I get to this street corner and there are buses So I took it took a cab from the airport to a street corner where there were buses that drove like three blocks to a Warehouse A lot so the thing is there were a lot of locals that were able to sign up through like a Fan event Yeah, so So it was like off the bat had a very different feel from a lot of other events because you know They had a lot of fans there and so I was on this bus and they were like trying to film people being hype on the bus and People fucking jumping out trying to shout more combat and then we don't get over here Yeah, the community manager being like actually if you just not shout more combat because we're trying to distance We're trying to start ourselves from the movie stuff. Are you so we had a back.

No, no, just have the movie. It's not bad Yeah, it's pretty good It's pretty good How that next year go though with like you know cuz there were a lot of celebrities that were doing that were you know There were people like taking pictures with people and there was like a pop-up shop there like bait was selling stuff like a combat themed gear I bought a Steve Caliaro Mortal Kombat skateboard deck Cool And they were doing like custom shoes mr. Cartoon was there doing tattoos like it was just a strange Yeah, they had a little room where people could dress up yeah They could put on like safety gear and then oh yeah shit And then yeah, just go in there and like fuck up a printer or something. Yeah, it was like empty wine bottles though When I look at you I didn't see a cool thing.

Yeah, it would that yeah, you gotta get it early for the printers It just didn't that part of it specifically didn't seem very Mortal Kombat to me. Yeah, it was just yeah But it was a it was weird It felt like it felt like someone who didn't think highly of Mortal Kombat. Yeah, just fuck shoot up I guess totally works I bet there were tons of people who were super so how they showed that the game left you so they they basically did a like a 45-minute presentation where they Showed some gameplay. They did their story stuff Handful trailers and then so okay cool review.

Yeah, okay. Go play the game. Okay, and then I yeah So I very quickly interview that boom which that does knock up on site yet I need to put that together and put it up and audio version Yes, and then went and played the game in a separate area But they had said that area with kiosk people basically lined up to get in to the area where the kiosks were and they had a separate area for people We're doing capture right so I was over in that area doing doing capture And so yeah, I played the game for about 45 minutes. Yeah, would you have access to like the tower?

It was like six characters one tower and like you know versus mode basically And so it also like a lot of the menus for customizing the characters and all that sort of stuff So I got a sense of like how that stuff's going to go at least a little bit a lot of consumables Yeah, there's a lot of consumables and like you know slots that you have to fill up with abilities and then you can create your own custom layout Right, right? To the system in justice to it is like you see that system there, but it is advanced And it feels better than that in terms of like the stats are not attached to the gear So all of the gears cosmetic like you get a cool hat or you know a cool ninja mask for scorpion or whatever Yeah, you just wear it. Okay, it's fine So you can customize what it's I think every character is gonna have a slightly different customizable because it's based on who they are Yeah, so like for scorpion It's like you know, there's a general outfit I think and then there's you know the mask and then also like the tip of his spear. Okay, so it's like kind of like a Cosmetics work where there's different slots that can be exactly like for sub-zero It's like mask and then also does he have like cunai or sure pins or will smoke bombs on his belt or something And then other kind of larger pops costume level stuff as well It seems like everyone has like three ish slots And so that's just cosmetic But you can equip augments on to the cosmetics There's empty slots on each of those items and that stuff seems to expire that stuff is consumable So you can slot thing on there that'll be like and so the one thing I'll say before we get into this is like There was nothing said about like hey, is this gonna be in ranked is it's gonna be online?

You know, where does this stuff function because the whole other batch of consumables that we haven't gotten into yet seems only be useful in the tower Okay, okay, right. Yes, um And so this would be like hey sub-zero slide does five percent more block damage Shit like that and you said these are consumable is it like a one-time thing is it like ten? Is it like a set number of times I think it's that number of times so they had the profiles juiced up with basically like yeah You know nine of everything and so it was hard to get a sense of like how that stuff would work But also when I did finish that one tower that was in the game I unlocked a shitload of stuff like so you know if I think about it justice to And justice to you was a system that when I looked at first it was like this is gross But then it was actually by the time I had finished the story mode I had more stuff than I knew what to do with and the idea of paying money for more seemed completely ridiculous Because that's how much shit was like, you know, I was getting too much gear in that game of anything That's what you don't want it to cross the line when it comes to consumable like stat items in fighting games You don't want it to be a pay-to-win situation You don't want it to be like in a PvP scenario that your equally scaled but the other person has spent more money Right, like, you know, I feel like in justice I didn't I didn't play a lot of it But hearing you guys talk about it and seeing it it seems like it was never the the buffs and stuff like that weren't hugely noticeable And it seemed like everyone had access to at least a few things if you played like an hour of game exactly Yeah, you were just getting that stuff nonstop and it would you know, if you were lower level than another player It would kind of match you up if you're playing ranked it would be a whole different, you know, way to balance it that way So I think they did okay in injustice too with that stuff So, you know, I think they've got rope here in terms of, you know, like this system could work Yeah, it's an evolution of this. It is.

Yes, and then there were so that then in injustice too There were gear pieces that also or no was it just unlike you had slots to actually add moves And so in some cases you could replace one move with a variant of the move and this has that as well Where you'll have a handful of slots to slots and moves on I didn't have moves to equip But there were some of the loadouts that had them already And so these are cool things these aren't like in MKX where yeah, I wasn't a three-style Basically, you pick your character and then every loadout you've created is there and you can cycle through them and pick one and you know Presumably they'll have some preset loadouts. That's why wouldn't they? I saw something like weird named ones like yeah, you can name them whatever you want. Yeah, and that was just that's not in the final game That's just there to show that you can name it whatever the fuck you want.

Yeah, they had to clarify that because people were like Oh my god, that's gonna be a thing. No, it should be in the game. I mean it's mean. Yeah So that would be stuff like sub zero has his slide, but he also has a shoulder charge So you're basically like swapping the slide out for the shoulder charge.

Okay, and you know, there'll be some differences there It's a standing move, so you know, it's got a different hitbox and I'm sure probably some different wind up and recovery and all other stuff Do yeah, I saw a character like a with Garris like you know, he's got a rewind like a ad time or you can you know reverse time? Yeah, I saw that 30 seconds off the clock. Yeah, you can add 30 seconds or yeah, subtract it But it's it's bouncing away that you get the three slots But each of those are like they take up two slots. Yeah, right.

Yeah. Yeah, that stuff's funny And then some of that stuff would be like oh, here's like you're basically like two more ice balls for sub zero to have like they don't necessarily freeze a guy But it's like here's like you know, he's got a little kind of multi-throat ninja star thing with a really short range on it It was actually pretty cool. Yeah, exactly. All right, and so it was changes like that and you kind of get into the variations that way The system seemed pretty robust and but you know, it's hard to get a full sense for without you know getting in there and unlocking the stuff yourself And then and all that so with the building they had you can see a little bits and pieces of it But didn't necessarily get the full picture.

How about stuff? How apparent was it's like what your opponent had like in their layout or you know I didn't play much versus so, but I guess you know the AI was they were using the loadouts But I yeah, I wonder you can even know at the outset what exactly you would Because on the versus screen you can hit triangle at any point to view your own loadout, okay And it'll show which moves you have equipped as well as whatever step, you know, like basically what's a quick on the character? Okay, so I have to imagine that that also shows it for the other character, but I can't say with certainty I've got the footage we can go look and see if it shows up at any point. I'm curious how this plays in like a tournament setting You know with different move variants has that stuff gonna be is it unlocked from the get-go?

You know, is it something you have to work for or so you'll get drops out of like finishing towers Or if it's anything like a justice to and from what I saw in the game So I finished the one power that was in there and at the end of it It gave me like nine things and some of it were what's a currency that you could use for the crypt or whatever else coins with a K There are I'm pretty sure there are coins, but they're also different types of crystals, you know, just to you had like four So yeah So I imagine you would just play the game to unlock stuff And then if anything like a justice to and from talking to them about how this will go It seems like you'll play the store mode and get stuff and you know, you'll get things Yeah So that's Garris the character they revealed the playable character. They revealed a chronica the first female end boss in a Mortal Kombat She does two arms. No hair heard Garris are the same like they seem to be looking to be working together And her whole thing so because they both manipulate time so the whole story in this one Granted, you know is already a reboot based on weird timeline stuff This is now chronica and she has been running everything in the shadows the entire time stepping in because Raiden has fucked it up beyond repair She's like, okay, the timeline's gotten way too fucking lightning red all of a sudden. What the hell's going on?

Is she cognizant of old Mortal Kombat? So yes, what so this this will let this will basically it sounds like that they are working her into Every major event in the entire franchise. Yeah, it seems like they're having fun with it. That's yes That's and I didn't see that in action, but that's from talking to that's what it sounded like Like it's that she did you leave like you put it into all the Future, it's just gonna be like fucking Johnny K a photo Johnny Cage is gonna be slowly fading away Until you write the timeline she's actually the one in the back of that level where you knock the guy into the acid pin Yeah, she's been warned about all this higher time Yeah, I don't know if they'll have I assumed that they'll have some fun with that But I guess that also lets them it frees them from whatever story shit has resulted in a lot of characters being dead and Opens them up to having younger versions of characters appear and stuff like that So it seems like in terms of what characters could appear in this game like striker for example If you want to strike her in this game, I would be okay.

They could probably put striker in the game They're pretty cool cosmetic guns. Yeah, exactly. Yes I heard some people were I saw some people rather that we're upset with not a lot of talk about the combat kids They were not mentioned. Yeah, the four the four big characters from the story mode last time around Yeah, not mentioned at all interesting.

So that doesn't mean that they're not in it. No, yeah, but they were yeah I remember you didn't play a lot of him just hearing a lot about you know casket and all them and kind of making them the main Yeah, if anything they seem to be refocusing on stonya Because they've given her a voice a famous voice. Yeah along the way and Yeah, so they had six characters in the building kind of teased a seventh and you know They're gonna start up their live streams to reveal characters and do all that sort of stuff But it was you know when you think about what the game normally has to show when they would announce it e3 This was way more than that. This had finishers in this had they had a trailer to show you the story like there was a there was Much more to this build of the game right then then when you normally get first playable You would hope so if they're inviting Cody Rhodes, they better have some fidelity.

Exactly. Yeah Yeah, he was there. Yeah Tell me how to play well the chief brand officer. So it is similar to the previous games But they've made some really smart changes.

So they've broken which will sound complicated But I actually think this game will end up being better for more people. Okay, that's my early take on anyway We'll see how it pans out So that's like basically they have taken their with their one three segmented meter replaced it with two separate meters and a desperation move So normally, you know each level of meter in MKX at what level one you can do an EX move Never they called it enhanced moves and in this one they call it amplify And yeah in the X at two bars. You do a combo breaker and at three bars. You could do your x-ray.

Oh, but okay So x-rays are gone. Yep in that form You now have two meters you have an offensive meter and a defensive meter. Okay offensive meter that each each meter has two sections on it and Some characters just have moves that always use meter like garris's timeshit is always you like always take a chunk of meter to do He's got a move that just will freeze someone in the air You can punch them a bunch and they'll stay there frozen and then they unfreeze and take all the damage But I'm in jail. Oh, wow.

He's pretty fucking neat. Wow. He sounds pretty fun. Yeah, he seems nasty and So yeah, so there's two meters.

Yes, so so you know if you were doing an amplify that will burn one chunk of the meter It will eventually come back all that sort of stuff the defensive meter I don't actually know what the game is perfect blocking in it So if you bring her to block it'll it'll do like a To open them up for a counter if you can if you can time it just right But I don't get the impression that that's he takes defensive meter We'll have to watch some of the footage that they put out because I yeah, because like we'll watch this whole 45 minutes I recorded or whatever you will never see that defensive I do it's not a combo breakers are not in the game. No, yeah, and they have taken running out It is now just a forward dash when you don't have no more income And it really that's why I say I think the game is a little more Down Earth a little something that I think that more people will be able to wrap their mind around some of that stuff because of Like yeah, the run combo business maybe being toned down like it's you know There will be long combos in this game But it seems like it is more manageable to the point where they feel comfortable taking the breaker out Yeah, the breaker always felt like that crutch of just like well We need to make sure everyone can get out of this combo if they're right if they're up in the air for eight seconds And all that other stuff like this seems a little more down to earth Of course, I'm saying that now as a not a pro player be the pro players that were there doing tournament had not had a ton of time At the game exactly yeah, so they were not doing that much wild shit Yeah, they're probably doing the stuff they were used to in the last or just this so like a lot I feel like the right now the game seemed a little more reasonable in that sense Like you weren't just getting rocked and you were just getting juggled forever I think games like you know tech in and cross like that I've shown that that you can make fighting games more accessible than they have been in the last few years Yeah, two great results And so the other the last thing that I think also is something that can make it more accessible is so instead of that full meter X-ray move which you never saw in tournament play because everyone was using their meter for Stuff now that is off to its own separate thing and is a when you were below 30% health and it's now called a fatal blow Yeah, and so it's a desperation move like nice in case I like hey if you're below this pull the triggers and you do it kind of sure And you know those are just as extravagant as they were They're fucked up. They don't always have x-ray You know, they don't always have skulls and bones and then like they used to because now they're called they don't have to like force bones into every single I saw some other leg zoom mechanics like the yeah that are like counters or something right like I saw a bunch of like uppercuts where it Actually show like the job being crushing blows crushing blows explain that I've only done this so that stuff that was in the game that I thought was just like tech and shit Okay, look at this whole thing In terms of just like oh, yeah, so you know You still you know grab grab a mace out of the background and swing it that type of shit And when you do that it'll almost always do the zoom-in slow motion look at this guy's ribs cracking cool thing But it sounds like some of that is situational and based on like hey if you hit like this many uppercuts in a round It's gonna be more likely to do this crushing blow. Okay, which sounds weird And I'm I want to see like that system kind of laid out maybe someone I'll look around and see if anyone on any of the fighting inside seems like you're gonna down counter hit Yeah, it would just be like a crush counter like like some kind of like deep counter thing But like there's stuff about it that seems a little out of the ordinary from from what I've read so far It looks yeah looks really good But and so there's a there's an option in the settings there where you can make it so those only happen if you hold down the attack button Okay, so there's there's more to it than that's what I'm saying You know it's like it's kind of like okay if this is something we're like okay I want to have to hold down the button to make this thing happen Yeah, and it's gonna open people up for a further counter is what the implication is there I think but I can't say that with certainty because to me it just looked like a cosmetic thing I'm just like oh they played a bunch of tech in and said hey We need to have some slow mo hits.

Yeah, but it sounds like I might be a little bit more like gameplay to it than that All right, so we got meters down. Yeah, all right. It's got short hop really. Yeah, okay I think it's okay.

I think it's a tap. I think it's a tap I saw them do it while they were playing it and then didn't do a ton of it myself I'm but but they did show that And then you know like yeah a lot of the the strings and combos and stuff like that are gonna look like what you're you know Used to from Mortal Kombat, you know, you're gonna tap out some stuff I think the animation looks better. There's been a lot of people kind of picking that stuff on It looks way more sensible than human and like more impactful, right? Yeah, like the hits just look really brutal Yeah, it has brutalities in it like the last one was kind of round ending So like I kept doing one with sub-zero where if you end the round with an uppercut or if you end the match with an uppercut Okay, just knocks his head off old old one style.

All right, I just cancel the brutality Yeah, okay, yeah, which that stuff was in KX it was like you tear a handful of weird if you ended the round this specific way That's right. That's around with each spear. Yeah, and it'll just pull them apart, you know or whatever so like those are back as well as you know fatalities The fatalities are grim. They really are they're really fucked up.

Yeah, I guess I said that about the last one because like but like even by comparison You're like fuck man. I'm not gonna be able to play this around my son At all. Let's don't do the finishers. Yeah, I guess my friendship That's not the house we live in.

Yeah, okay, fair enough. We do fatalities in this house. Griffin. I'm about to win go in the closet Turn around.

You can't see this lady's eyeballs come out of her head Eyeballs So far, but not like eyeballs being plucked. It's like hey, I blew up your head so much that you just see a straight eyeball flying out of it Um, yo, she stabs the one with her own blood. Yeah, yeah, Scarlett's back. She was DLC in MK9 And she's in it making blood spears and all this other stuff and I don't know like I To me Mortal Kombat is hilarious.

Yeah, uh, but at the same time I get why with this game in the last one You've started to see some people be like hey, this is too much. Hey, this is like uncool. This is fucked up Uh, and I get it like I get it like whatever It's fucked up. Yeah, but also it's it's to me like the like Garris has a fatality where he fucking at the end of it He basically palms strikes the back of the person's head and their fucking face pops off and brain pops out So the slow mo at the end of it is this face layer in front of it exploded off You see the bottom part of the face at the front you see the brain halfway coming out of the fucking head Uh, and that's where it stops.

It says you win And it just freezes in there like to me that is just what that is like that is MK1 plus technology Yeah, that is the same fucking gruesome shit They're just able to that's why I really like the injustice ones because they since they were like shoe horned into not being gory They get really weird and creative with it like batmans where he grabs you with his fucking chat or the speak Those were finishers those were supers. Yeah, so the supers are still really inventive in that same way, right? They can also just be bloody. Yeah Like one of them says Sonia pull I got a pistol was shooting the person in the fucking head and that's like that is a super I don't think that's a fatality because they just get back up and keep fucking fighting It's where I don't want anything that I could theoretically see in real life All of this can happen.

I want it to be extremely hard to yours. Oh, no, I mean like the fun thing is Uh, it's uh To me it like it strikes a weird balance between like I don't really like horror movies and gore type stuff like generally But I feel like this is still somehow true to the spirit of nine rib cages popping out of a thing And that it is so over the top and crazy. You're just like fucking what the fuck okay, that I'm But it is not like you know kind of funny gory, but it's yeah I don't know so I can also I understand why some people would not see it as funny gory and just go like what the fuck are you doing? Okay, um, I guess more of my guess because some of them are yeah, you know Fucked up great.

I'm very fucked up. The boy. Go show check tops. No show show that um Yeah, I think it's uh, my main Yeah, I think it plays well, you know, the tower stuff is back like I said, you know, and in the tower You can also that's where the other consumable stuff shows up.

Okay, and those are like assists. Yeah, that's cool Yeah, it's like they've had it before where like oh, you know, here's a weird modifier where oh rockets are constantly falling out of the sky Like now it's like you can kind of equip those and then flick the right stick to use them Okay, um, so I guess we're using a fight stick, you know, you might not have a right stick That's well, um, but if you're using a fight stick, you're probably not gonna want to use the damn modifiers anyway because you take it too seriously Um So it probably works out in a weird way. Uh, so some of the assists that you're equipping take up one slot You have three slots to work with if you take a character that takes all three of your slots So scorpion like is an assist character where if you flick towards on the right stick He comes in and does a spear if you hit back on it. He comes in and does a teleport punch Yeah, uh, and and that's how that works, but generally it's like with the other moves It's like if they push down on the right stick of meteorite falls and hits the guy say a meteorite Yeah, I don't know Cyrax's net shoots out and catches the guy and then you can fuck them up some more and you know, like all that's that's blockable And it's all on cooldown so you can't just quite spam it out But you can't spam all three of them in a quick succession in a way that like, you know, I get the impression These are not gonna be things you're gonna use in an actual online match They seem like things they're there for things like the tower Yeah, and just kind of fuck around type modes It's hard to envision those being usable in any kind of setting beyond that could be super fun and casual though.

Yeah, they're real goofy Yeah, you know, this is like here's homing missiles. Yeah, you know, I imagine some like nadi combos Yeah, just reset people with meteors and stuff with combo Yeah, totally like and they've had stuff like that and you know via codes and like Yeah, and stuff like that. Um, but here they're consumables which is kind of a different story Um But we'll see we'll see how how many of those you get just by playing the game and all that sort of stuff right that might be Potential concern, I suppose, but uh, which plays mostly I went around You know, I was you know, captain footage old times like okay, there's six characters I'm gonna make sure I play everybody I probably ended up playing most of sub zero because I went through the tower as sub zero Sure. Um, and I just feel like having an ice clone I'm okay with it because because he kind of yeah, he's kind of had it and not had it also I bet he's totally got it.

I bet there's an equitable. I've heard there's no ice clone zero ice clone Yeah, I figured that would be something you are you gonna quit that on character and have ice clone back if you want it? Nope at the expense of it's gone whatever I'm hearing it's gone. Okay.

I'm hearing it's I'm hearing it's not there at all. Um This would be coming out April April. Yeah Any other internet plans like a like a beta or anything? Yeah, they have a beta in March Very much and they're gonna be running streams to reveal characters and do stuff like that So a shortened PR cycle compared to what they normally do but probably like way more focused and info packed Yeah, it'll be fun leading up Yeah, I'll be watching I'm excited to see potential guess characters You know, that's kind of a weird standard now in a lot of fighting games Yeah, they've kind of made it their vision for yeah for the last week goes down in justice and in right?

Yeah, I don't know I I went back and played some MKX after getting home from this thing. I just kind of feel the differences And forgot like the characters were like, oh, right They put the alien in this and then they like one of the variants just gives the alien like a baraka moves. Yeah weird It's not here. I just yeah, I don't know like that This says more about me I guess but I care enough about the existing characters of moral combat and that lore such that I feel that when you put like a leather Face in there it kind of cheapens the whole thing or a cradose when they did that too It's just like whatever man.

I just have a hard time taking MK like super seriously And it's and it seems like they're there's they're rewinding rewriting, you know, they're their own history now And it's maybe they don't take it that's just like a lot of the princesses in it. What if yeah, what is it? Right? Yeah, well it's time to Talk about Garris for a second like he's a grappler character You can put this so that like if you whiff your command grab and they punish you you can be like now I'm gonna go back four seconds in time That's nuts.

Yeah, I'm like the whole thing of like being able to remove 30 seconds from the in-game plot to me is just so stupid and Well, they can't bring it below like nine or something You can't use it to like instantly and around everything and all you know It's a risk reward thing because they're gonna be instances where you're behind And you don't want to use it ever because you're behind but like it's such a idea that I can't think of another fighting game that has Messed with the in-game clock. Yeah, no joke. Yeah, it's a sacred pillar of fighting games And say you're at 40 seconds You've got a life lead if you suck that like 30 seconds away towards like only 10 seconds left and just run away Just run away, but then he was like a trolliest shit. Oh my god.

Oh, you know, you're gonna main him clearly played dive check Oh my goodness. Yeah, this is gonna be interesting. Yeah, it's a really really really Seemed really neat to him. Just his moves were really interesting.

That's I'm glad they like it was a mixture of like time shit and sand shit Yeah, like I'm gonna make like a certain guy's a royal You know, it's just like making hammers out of sand and then crush a guy, you know, like it is lifting guys up into the air with sand blasts and Like that sort of working with sand. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. All right.

Mm-hmm. I was thinking more of a gara, but all right, fair enough. You're always thinking about gara You're right. So yeah, I've got some footage of that that that I got to a place where it was usable and we'll we'll talk over that stuff This week and show it off to people.

Awesome. That's okay. 11. Yeah, you play much of anything.

Yeah, I beat a game actually. All right. Yeah, it was a Kingdom Hearts I beat Kingdom Hearts 0.2. Jan, is that good?

Which one is 0.2? Apparently the most reasonable one. Okay, is that a web game? No, no, I think it's a full-fledged Like ps4 game.

Did you play it on a place where did you play this video game? I bought the Kingdom Hearts 1.5 and 2.5 and then the 2.8 I bought the two different bundles one of the bundles has a 1.5 and the 2.5 and then the second bundle has 2.8 But it also has a 0.2. That's the one I play because it was the most recent so I figure if I go backwards I'm gonna get most of the story Exactly, so I played 0.2 and I'm just gonna add that to my knowledge of 2.8 And then I'm gonna have the full story and I'm gonna be fully ready for Kingdom Hearts 3.0 when that comes out this Friday That's really out this week. Yeah, that's not this week I feel like I feel like I don't have to go back Jan, is it either?

Yeah, you know, I hate to break the Jason. Yeah, but then the not fully numbered games I'm gonna say mm-hmm don't matter. Okay, so let's introduce the main antagonist for the entire series You know, they'll eventually retcon it all in like yeah with three comes out You'd like to think that it's been long enough since One of these came out that three would recap and re-contextualize everything for potentially new players, right? You would like to think that yeah, I mean that's what they should do I would assume like the first chapter you know, I don't think they kind of like recap like really it had happened in the first game because you Well, it starts off with like a different character Yeah, but then like he like goes to sleep and then it's like oh wait.

I'm really sore. Oh my god Oh, yeah, I went to sleep before that. Yeah, actually I hate to break the Jason also, but they had released those both of those packages. Yeah, it's a one package now really Yeah, so I bought the big bundle the $100 bundle that had all of those and then Kingdom Hearts 3 as well.

Oh, I don't So I don't know it was one big bundle to me. Did you like what you played? No, no, it didn't feel good like the combat or anything and I figured that's what the comments gonna be kind of like in three Cuz it's the most recent one. I don't know if it's gonna be any better.

We'll see. Did you get to ride dumbo? No, I wanted to there was no Disney shit No Disney shit. Well, I said no, they brought up.

They brought in Mickey for a little bit. Okay. I think that's Disney shit Yeah, I guess so, but he's like the king of some castle He's a keyblade master Yeah, you gotta take a test. You gotta take a test to be a master.

He's a key master. He's an aqua did aqua did that She's not a she's no master Her name is aqua. She's in the dark for people in it She's in the dark well, but she's not evil She's gonna be there as a guiding light to people that have found their way into the dark place And she I found a way into the dark place right now me too me too. Is this seriously like with all the like you know Personality splits and shit like that people becoming nobody's and clones of themselves is this just teenage twin peaks seriously, you know Like in retrospect, I think it is okay, and I think three of the games.

I can't tell you which three specifically are firewalk with me. Yeah, um In that they'll be incredibly important to things that happened. Yes. Yeah in the next way unwatchable And then that firewalk with me is fine With there's some parts of that all the leland stuff In a way that you like it though Leeland Palmer is the nine rib cages of the twin peaks universe.

No Gordon is the night Gordon is it yeah And I don't know if Sora would be like the Dale Cooper of the I think I would think so because not self-aware though Roxas and stuff and And then maybe Sora is the leland of kingdom heart. Well, then who's Bob is then Bob could be Roxas kind of There's then there's Tara in the aqua and those kids are the birth by sleep kids, right? Yeah, those are the clones of anybody. Well, no, they become clones or like they they impart themselves into Riku Kyrie and Sora This is great because both kingdom hearts fans and non-kingdom hearts and have no idea what we're saying.

Yeah. Yeah, that's true Okay, I have to question everything I'm saying right now Yeah, I don't know what that was going on But the deeper I get into it the less I understand it like I had a kind of you know like grasp of what was going on after playing that Like two hour like point two version of whatever. Honestly, it's just that classic anime mo that anime moment that when you're watching an anime And you think you kind of understand what's happening and then you realize you don't really have no idea You just gotta roll with it. You just gotta like I don't want to roll with it anymore.

I want to know Why can't they come into kingdom hearts seriously expecting to understand everything that you were going to see not everything because I know that they So gonna have stuff for three, I guess but I wanted a firmer grasp of the situation I had slipping away from me. I bought that bundle that they released late last year And then I had fired up. I think it was dream drop distance Oh shit. What's that one?

And then I had just sat there for like almost an hour Realizing that it was just playing all the cinematics from the game And I didn't realize it and then I was confused about what was going on. Okay about like, okay So we're reliving kingdom hearts one because we've downloaded Sora's memories Yeah, we're pretty much like unfragmenting all of that, but then rewriting it so it's real now that's recoded Isn't it? I think that's recoded Because that's just cutscenes as just cutscenes of whatever. Oh my god Anyway, I'm excited for kingdom hearts three this this uh anyone ride dumbo in that footage.

No the cutscenes No, I think I saw stitch What this is cool A bunch of arms He's like oh, so you can okay. Yeah, great. It's none of the disney version Well, we'll see I would hope that kingdom hearts three would open up with some type of recap to try And summarize everything. I feel like that's something that I hope it's a little more prevalent in games generally now than it was when say two came out There's some other stuff.

So I feel like that's maybe not Since two and it has a reputation like they have to know the reputation of living your heart to follow But maybe they like that. Yeah, maybe they get off on that and be like hey if you want the whole story play all the games we're selling them Yeah, I guess the square people. Yeah. Yes, that's Up against like oh, it's still square.

Um, I would just hope it's something outside I'm just like oh just read this journal entry and then you can kind of get up to date I just want something really good youtube video that I see a lot of people passing around praising that kind of It's like an hour long and it kind of gives you the entire rundown of kingdom hearts So maybe if I think I need that that might be No one needs that I actually get interested in the in the Disney stuff because we're invested, you know I want to see that be a max stuff. I want to see you know the stuff and but like none of the Disney story It does like in the grand scheme of things like it's so weird Mickey except Mickey because he's a keyblade master But then it's like well why have any of the final fantasy stuff in it if that also doesn't really matter Yeah, it's fucking weird and it's like where this like kingdom hearts was like hey like we're matching up two worlds disney and squirt Square enix and then as the story progresses like hey none of that really matters. We just wanted to tell you our story Yeah, well people got into those characters, right? I mean, it's not like they're forcing But I feel like my character is down people's throats like people chose this life, right?

You're right. You're right. I feel like the draw though for like everyone else is like oh cool Like don't always end this game right be is in this game. Yeah, uh or for other people's like oh cloud is in this game But just uh it's weird.

That was like that was the whole thing Don't think you're cruising in and out of your party like you're in that like oh you're in the dumbo world And now here's dumbo and like now you're in the cloud world and here's cloud But like I always thought it was like you kind of like oh now I'm in the Tron world Here's Tron and then we move on but it's always this set party so like it's well There's like one person into your world. Yeah, do you get a Tron? You got a Tron? Is it actual Tron?

I don't know. I haven't finished Kingdom Hearts. Hmm. I didn't watch that cutscene.

All right. Well, sorry Tron's good. It's good. Yeah, they should make more I even like to try legacy.

I loved it. Yeah, it looks cool. I like to have pretty soundtrack is great. Yeah.

Oh, yeah That was the other thing when I was down in LA for that event We drove past the laundromat that said it had biotigital machines in it and I thought trons I have digital jazz and like that's very exciting. I want to clean my clothes this laundromat. Yeah Clean my clothes on the grid. Oh Clothes you don't clean.

That's true Ben. Uh, what have you been doing? I've played a couple games. Okay, first up.

I played a bunch of pikuniku, which it's a new game I forget the name of the studio. It's relatively new studio, but it's Volvo's publishing it It's really something cool. It's a little action platformer or I guess puzzle platformer is probably closer Very minimalistic simplistic design. Yeah, I kind of might like visually maybe a little kid of Takahashi little pat-a-pon Yeah, maybe a little local roko in there.

Yeah, yeah, totally And you know it's a very very basic game. You just kind of move around and jump and you're solving little issues kind of the setup is You're a guy in a cave and you come out and you wander into this town And they've been told to fear you because you are the beast and you're going to destroy the whole town And of course the person telling them this is this kind of capitalistic guy and mr. Sunshine who's rolls up one day to the sound says Hey, I got a good idea for you. I'm gonna give you free money I like this idea of free money And you know, it's kind of a game all about like capitalism and the dangers of that And mr.

Sunshine's maybe not the most what's so dangerous? He's giving you free money. What are you talking about? Robots, you know A version of him living inside his hat Okay, now I don't trust this guy the game just has a tremendous sense of humor about it Um, if you're curious what it looks like just watch our quick luck We play that intro cutscene at the end and and Jan and I were kind of blown away the first time inside It's it's very enjoyable.

It's a short game, you know, they themselves say it's gonna take four or five hours But maybe the coolest thing is you can totally pick it up for free right now if you have Twitch prime It's today tomorrow the 23rd and I told at the price point that it's being sold for I recommend it for free I think you should definitely check it out. It's um, it's like free money. It's like free money. It's like free money.

Okay, right? It's gonna do the switch as well. Yeah, uh, it was like 13 13 Yeah, um And it's got co-op But the co-op mode is different. It's like these kind of two-person levels that you need to solve in tandem Jan and I tried out one of those and it's pretty fun.

Yeah, it's pretty fun. Yeah, um And then less pretty fun. I've been playing no more heroes Travis strikes back. I'm sorry Uh, you know, so this is the newest no more heroes game pretty different from the other ones.

Yeah, I really like students games Um, I've liked them for a long time. Even the less great ones I think are fine just because he is so good at creating a style that I've always been able to latch on to um, not for every game But for the most part The his games just classically are kind of style over substance. The gameplay is never really the thing that you talk when you talk about a killing set Was one it's it's kind of like, you know, the characters the setting the dialogue Thus the style just like the menu options. He really everything the wrapping around the games to me are kind of the most interesting parts of those games And so this is this is different.

It's no more heroes kind of in name and character alone It starts out with Travis touchdown being attacked by the father of one of the people he assassinated normal heroes one And they get sucked into a game console Haunted game console that was only released for a month in like the phillipines or something Um, is it it's the death drives like the same drive? It's like a variant of the console using let it dock. Yes, uh, which they reference Um, it's not death in there somewhere. So the thing is this game starts to kind of do a glass Thing where it takes a little bit of the difference to the universes and kind of ties them together in a really cool way Well, that was something where they upfront they were like, hey, this is gonna have references to other indie games or either companies Oh, totally.

Yeah, just like So so to take a step back like the game itself is a um, kind of it plays like a middle ground between Diablo and gauntlet It's kind of a top down you've got a light attack a heavy attack and a bunch of different A dodge a jump and a bunch of different skills assigned to like you hold al and press the different face buttons. Uh, it's a switch exclusive I'm playing on switch right now. Um, and so you're fighting like lots of hordes of enemies Or then sometimes you have to fight bigger enemies that you have to play a little more carefully around and use those skills I think the coolest aspect of gameplay wise of the game is the different combinations of skills Uh that you can do where like, um, one of the first skills you get you whatever enemy you're targeting You can press and hold the button and you don't like grab them and kind of you can like move them around the field And you'll have another skill where you can like play a sticky bomb on an enemy So you can drop a bomb on him grab him throw him into the crowd and it has some cool combinations there The problem is it just gets really repetitive. It's kind of they introduce new enemies and stuff But you're still just kind of mashing light attack and then sometimes hitting heavy attack Uh, the bosses are more interesting.

Uh, I think that's another thing He's always done well like if you go back to normal heroes that game was basically a series of really cool boss battles with some Mashing in between. Yeah, um, like very stylish. Yeah, you were there for the boss fights Yeah, the rest of us kind of like yeah, and it does a cool thing in this game We're like so you travel from different games to different game Um and each of the games you kind of show up and the main character of the game gets pissed that you are trying to one up them and becomes kind of Your antagonist in the game. Uh, so it has a lot of This game has the most referential to a video game humor I've seen in a long time because it's about video games and you know, no more heroes has always kind of had this irreverence to it Like yeah, I remember back in the day just being blown away.

There's a big, you know, they do the bait and switch over here's this big boss coming down You're like, oh shit, this is gonna be a huge fight and then somebody else comes and blows them up and that was quaint in, you know, 2007 Or whatever your normal heroes came out, but at this point I feel like the kind of meta Meta about video games being bad and weird has advanced past that point Like you still have to make a good game. Yeah, you can't get away with just like we got some jokes about how this game is bad I hate to bring up that that's that's yeah, there you go. The mat has your principle of like, you know, there's multiple jokes of Travis saying like You're giving me too much text. I just want to fight.

Yeah preceded by another few minutes of too much text It's like, yes, you know what the problem is and you're addressing it, but it's still a problem Right. Um, I think I think it never just really hits those highs that the other games hit I have heard that about kind of halfway through it really opens up and gets a lot weirder and they start going for more But it never really hits that payoff eventually so I'm excited to see there I have I've just been beaten the second of six different games That are available in the console and there's a lot of stuff like there's kind of a hub world and you go between games You can go watch these like long sort of codecs like sequences where you're searching for the next game or whatever But it's just kind of presented with you know, Travis talking to other characters. There's no voice acting Or very very limited, which is a bummer because you know that Yeah, there's a lot of story in there too. Yeah Um, and you know, I'm gonna stick with it Just because I you know hearing that it gets weird in a suit away Like really weird in a suit away is appealing to me because that's what I come to his games for Um, it's just yeah, honestly, it's at this point a little mashy a little samey You know, I was expecting the different games to be different beyond They just look different and then they have different kinds of puzzles So the one I'm just be was kind of a Suburban layout and you're like moving around the houses in a puzzle sort of way so you can go from one end of the street to another Yeah, and that's that's different But then all the enemies are the same from the different worlds and it's just Yeah, but all right.

Yeah, that's uh, Travis strikes back It's it's a bummer too because he was out there saying like if you really want to know more heroes three You got to see you know, this game basically saying like buy this game if you want no more heroes three I hate that you want to talk stalkers. Yeah, um, I hate when that's the case Like I understand that may be the case like you know, it's a show that hey there's interest here Look, I'll even buy the bad ones. So what if we made a good one? Yeah, it's a bummer Or they learn hey, we don't have to make a good one.

Maybe just make more bad Uh, right. That's a bummer. Jan, how about you? Um, uh, we're still riding that rhythm train.

Uh, but this time I checked out vose It's I think released last year. Yeah, uh, same developers as I said to you the game I mentioned a couple of last two long casts actually, uh, and I haven't dug into into it too much just got last night Um, but it's a rhythm game where it's like classic Way note highway. I guess with the notes coming right at you But here I'm playing it on docked handheld on the switch so you have to actually physically tap right the notes Um, I think there's an option you could actually just use the buttons, but when you could tap why not right? Um, and instead of the highways being stationary, they're kind of moving around as the song progresses Um, and I'm thinking a lot, uh The music that I've encountered so far maybe still not my taste but based off how uh, my my time with status is gone Then I feel like I could eventually turn around.

I think that maybe was my problem with those also Yeah, just the music didn't do it for me. And I just I don't know. I'm in the mechanic didn't really move me either I don't know. I'm not thinking at all so far, but I'm hoping maybe there'll be a couple tracks I went up liking.

Yeah, uh, there's a lot of them. It turns out. Yeah, yeah, but just just been tapping away with some music Nice. Yeah.

All right. Let me take a break and come back with some news and we'll come back with your emails and all other stuff after this Nothing like banging your knee On the table. I hit my knee on that spot once a week. Yeah sitting over there.

Yeah, it's miserable. Yeah. You get used to it We're back. You lose feeling in your leg and yeah deal anymore.

Yeah once you just kind of cross that bridge and completely lose feeling Uh, then it's fine. We're back with the news Uh, and we're back. It's just in breaking news at this hour. Electronic arts doesn't understand how to make Star Wars games carol.

What? Uh, just putting lightsabers and all your favorite characters and there you go. Yeah, I don't know the loot boxes and lightsabers That's my new Star Wars game. Yep.

We're pretty excited about it. Uh, this comes to us from Kotaku who's reporting that EA has canceled It's open world Star Wars game. Uh, if you remember correctly, there was a game that visceral was working on a code named ragtag It was an aiming heading joint then got kind of canned, uh, or I guess like the studio got shut down and development of that game or a game Using some of those assets was moved to EA Vancouver Um, and they rebooted it and making it into an open world game and apparently now that has been canceled according to kataku sources Um Yeah, and let's see this, uh, yeah, I'm kind of going through some of this There's a quote out like, correct me if I'm wrong here, some sort of You didn't see how we could make this a service for people to enjoy for years or something like that They kind of had to backpedal and do all sorts of other stuff around that, but yes Like the at the time of that game, you know, news of that game and visceral kind of going away There was talk about like, oh, you know, like games of service and this sort of stuff This is what we want to do is what players want. This is, you know So it paved the way for oh, this seems to be the thing that maybe they would be working on Yeah, um Yeah, and you know, you line that up with, you know, everything that went on with battlefront two, uh, it's I just don't I don't get it Yeah, I mean, it's it's maybe one of the hottest properties in the world star wars, like sure Just mass market appeal.

Yeah, a star wars video game There've been a lot of them And even the mediocre ones I feel like do relatively well just by being attached to star wars It really is fascinating to me that they just can't seem to do it Yeah, because they've had to deal with with Disney now for maybe that's the thing that changed while Disney is really hard to work with Yeah, you think about how long it's okay. You think about how at the end of every kingdom hearts development You hear stories about people saying we're never doing another one We are never working with them like and you heard it come out that originally, you know, um, the developers of battlefield two and this was their story Uh, didn't just wanted like cosmetic costumes and stuff like that and we want them to look like this So you got to figure out something else to do Which kind of led to the loot boxes. Yeah, there's a series of Marvel having issues in the Marvel versus series So maybe doesn't he just sucks. I don't know.

Yes, I believe it, uh But also yes, they didn't get to where they were today by being lax with their Yeah, yeah, I guess you're right. Uh, I guess there's something we said for being protective of your shit Um Yeah, so, uh, okay. Yes. Here's the years the quote you were talking about Uh, it has become clear that's a deliberate experience that players will want to come back to and enjoy for a long time We need to pivot the design it's kind of part of that that larger quote Um, which is funny because I think last year between red dead and god of war showed You can make a good single later game these things that people are going to buy and About you're right, but I think like at the same time They probably got to spend that much time and that much money on red dead because of gta online and the potential for red dead online Um, you know, they kind of just found a different way of going about it.

Uh, there's been changes over the studio over there You know, you remember jade raymond got out of uh motive, which is yay's like storytelling studio or whatever There was there was on the stuff back in october Um, and let's see apparently this project was codenamed orca according to the kataku piece Uh, and it would involve playing as a scoundrel or bounty hunter who would explore various open world planets and work with their Factions across the universe, uh, and When ea's top decision makers looked at their road map for the next few years They decided they needed something sooner than the plant planned to release for orca And so they canceled it in favor of a smaller scale project that's now aimed for much sooner likely late 2020 Uh, which you know, maybe that'll be around the time the new consoles launch Um Sounds like no one's laid off as a part of that transition and that they're all just gonna go on to other Other products they got a quote out of ea or they got a response out of ea that is pretty non-committal I guess uh, there's an speculation overnight about one of our star wars projects as a natural part of the creative process The great work by our team in vancouver continues and will evolve into future star wars content and games We're fully committed to making more star wars games. We're very excited about star wars jedi fallen order from respawn And we'll share more about our new projects when the time is right. That's uh respawn is working on a star wars game They haven't for a while. Um, that was the game that got they got that name at the ea press conference.

Oh, right? They're in a hat and just going like, yeah, we're doing a game. It's not here. Make it At least for now until they tell us we're not a guest.

They bought us so I don't know um ea seems like a very strange company these days I I feel like ea and activation both are looking increasingly lost in different ways. Uh, yeah, you know, there's been a lot of There's been people leaving both companies in different forms and stuff like that. Uh, it was like patrick seren left the a while ago, right? That was when was that uh, because he was on the grave some of those quotes Uh, I think it was last year.

Yeah Yeah, that was uh august was uh when it was announced that he was gonna transition out. Um Yeah, it's funny. I remember when ea was first getting that star wars license and talking to people I knew over there and they just had like It sounded like every studio in the company had like these big whiteboard pitches for the huge star wars game They wanted to make sure it's like the games couldn't be big enough They needed to be big huge projects because that's what's gonna bring in the most money and all that stuff or you know mobile projects That it's an ongoing thing and so was this race of like trying to pitch these star wars games and a big exciting time for everyone because suddenly like Like oh, this studio's we get the star wars game. That's cool.

That's weird. Uh, so what have the ea star wars games been battlefront 1 2? Uh, yeah, the mobile game Uh, whatever it's called. Yeah, one of them already played for a while galaxy war.

No, I don't know. I can't remember those galaxy heroes That sounds right. I don't know. Um There's also Uh, uh, the MMO which happened before the deal No, uh, the old republic is just called.

Yes, uh And so around the edges of this stuff there were some other rumors going around that you know But by aware at multiple points try to get kotore 3 off the ground. Uh, and haven't has not as of yet had that happen Um, I feel like that would be the one to get like fans excited, you know, like, yeah I'm sure there'd be a tinge of not wanting to trust Anyone involved in that in 2019 But like, you know, if you look to the series that has the most respects from fans when it comes to star wars games It's kotore. It's jedi academy Sure. Yeah, hi fighter But like, you know, really those two are kind of like as far as quote modern star wars games go the kind of gold standard Yeah, I guess so.

Yeah, so it's surprising to me that they could never really get a third if they wanted if they really wanted to It's surprising to me that they you know, whether they pitch it. There's uh, there's like concept art and stuff back from then Uh, when it was originally kind of happening, but I guess with like Disney going in and de cannot Cannot, cannot, I mean everything it makes it a little harder of a pitch. Yeah, I wonder Um And also like if you think about it the star wars film franchises have gone through a lot Uh over the last handful of years, like, you know with this idea of like, hey, we're gonna do all these one off like small stories And then it seemed like a reaction to solo with episode nine soon. Like is that this year?

Yeah, yeah, all right That's just that alone too. There's been I've done almost seven or eight almost six star wars movies in the last six years. Yeah, that's a lot It's a lot So yeah, I don't know star wars is a weird thing Like something even weirder and and you know, like everyone being very protective of it as You know, like I said stuff like solo kind of maybe disappoints because we think some of their stuff Like, you know, then suddenly that probably that vibe probably trickles down to the licensees And you have like the internet outrage around episode sure either whatever which like, you know before it was star wars fans could easily be like First three movies good Prequels bad. Yeah, and then like that was it like you were sorry.

I mean two things like all these good new movies bad Now it's just all over now new movies fine No, the worst thing that's ever happened or no, it's revolutionary and it's just all like new movies Russian bots that want to make people think it's bad on the internet because the current world to hellscape. I don't Yeah, so I don't know if there's been you know, you see all this stuff kind of twisting around, you know You see people starting to call for like hey, they should really take the star wars license away from EA But who do who do you give to? Ubisoft? No, I don't know.

I think the answer is you don't give a blanket license to any one company Yeah, if I were Disney coming out of this, I'd be like no I'm gonna make a star wars give you a good chance for individual games and and that's you okay You want to do a open world this and you want like exclusive on that platform or that this tier of consoles? Yeah, and you'll do that and then oh you want to do mobile games great your mobile companies You specialize in that shit go off and do it. Yeah, and and maybe they just need to get back to you just kind of taking those pitches and And doing those types of deals because it just seems like this kind of blanket EA deal I mean this deals like a A weight on EA as well Or now they are compelled to just like gin up more star wars games Even if maybe the market might not want that after I mean to be fair things that EA did to the license With with Battlefront 2 It only gets harder from there, right? You know, they have to have a big hit and you know like hey Respawn has made some games that feel real good.

So maybe this uh Jedi fall in order thing ends up being the thing that turns it around for everybody. So it was respawns last Titanfall 2. That's right. That's great.

That's a yes type. That's a great game They should make a third Titanfall. You know what? You know who I want to make a star wars game Oh and something like the force powers I feel like they could they could do some cool stuff at that Yeah, if they did like force unleashed three or whatever like a game in that style of like a sonyak with it's kind of You know with weird powers and just like a straight up video game you kind of like a path spider-man has like a force push Yeah, yeah, that would probably I want to hit man star wars.

Sure. Yeah, yeah, it is 47 or about on the death star Fucking knocking out a stormtrooper putting on the outfit There we did it. That's a game. Exactly.

You just have like a boss. I think you can have a team level. Oh, yeah He pretends to play the music That jizz player over there is really something I'm here to play the jizz. Yes, right over here.

Uh Here's a weird clarinet Thank you. I guess I can't I can't I can't do a 47 impression Everyone he's he's he's the ultimate every man. Every impression is a 47 Um Yeah, I don't know. I I This just seems like It doesn't seem like the gold mine that it used to the idea of like a star wars video games.

Yeah, I feel like mine everywhere Yeah, they've stepped on a couple so far exactly and I feel like the license at this point Like it's just not it's probably not worth what EA had to sign up for to get it in the first place And you start to wonder like if if someone there is in and I think that rumor's been going around to you that Maybe the the top the current top of EA who was different than the people that made that deal originally Uh, the rumor going around that maybe maybe current EA brass is a little cool on the whole concept Yeah, uh, but whatever they're in there in it. So they gotta try to make the best of it I don't know. I just don't know what you do at that point like if you're walking away from Like what sounds like the most standard ass like hey, we're gonna make an open world game. Like of course you are You want to make another open?

I don't know Maybe just conceptually wasn't working. Maybe they were saddled with old assets that didn't fit the project Who knows just give us a hd remake of the bounty the jingo fat bounty hunter game for game cube Okay, so I want pod racer Controllers 64 controllers weirdly enough. Yeah, uh, they're making an n64 controller adapter for the switch Great finally Uh artifact. Let's talk about it.

Uh, yeah, okay moving on. Yeah artifacts. No one is playing it It's like looser. I think I saw this morning.

It was at 2,400 concurrent. That's yesterday was 2,600. The day before 2,800 It's like it's losing multiple hundreds of it's already in the double two thousands of players a day Uh, yeah, uh at launch it sounds like at around 60,000 um players and that's just been They made a pretty huge update in December They added like a ladder system and some seasonal rewards and stuff like that and you saw a kind of an uptick back I feel like that got a few players back, but still even with that it's just tinking What's the story here that is just not released with enough content or I didn't know the money The way I knew who this game was for because it's a card game based in the dota universe So right there you're going to be It's not necessarily I don't necessarily think nobody who doesn't play dota can There's not anyone out there who doesn't play dota who would be really into this Other than the people who are like who really like well-designed card games or richard guardfield But like, you know, I never really know who this was for it was $20 at launch plus you have to buy all the cards Um plus magic has been had its own You seem to really like that. Um now recently you see a lot of the dough community opting into the dough to auto chests Which is like a One of the workshop games inside of dota 2 that like really took off on twitch and stuff There's just a lot of it came out at a weird time It's valves first release in a really long time So it's like, you know, it made have gone under a lot of people's radars Just because it was a small weird thing.

Mm-hmm. I don't know according to the article They're looking at the full price of buying a full set of cards on the marketplace at launch It was $294 by mid-December it was 200 and as of Last Wednesday it had dipped below a hundred. Oh, yeah, so in order the so I was saying such fun I haven't selling my cards yet. Yes, exactly.

Yeah, uh sell sell. I dream last night that we worked for game rule Oh, is it cool? Do we get to see his knives? You see all right?

I did not see the knives. He probably took you He just showed up. Uh, it was like we were at we all worked in an office But it was a different office and we were doing what we do and he's wheeled in this desk game. We'll walk up No, he's walked in.

It's like hey, that's a good video. That's a good video. What are you doing here? And he was like, oh, you know, I like basically he was like, oh, I own this I was like, oh, we work for game.

No, yeah, you do Anyway, um We have an email about uh about artifact that we'll get to in the email section. Okay, uh Let's see here. I'm just in here news a lot more subdued compared to last week Yeah, and I'm fine with that. Yeah I I have not seen any further developments in that Down real hard after that on the gearbox story.

Um So so yes with a little less news. How about this? Uh, there's uh, a new leader in the twitch subscriber game Yo summit 1g has gone ahead of ninja. I never Yeah, he is a Retired counter strike player that has been kind of back uh back around doing stuff mostly retired according to this article Uh, it sounds like he has been playing sea of thieves Uh, and whoa and getting out there and doing all the social engineering pirate shit that that game You know if you fully engage with it, that's the stuff Uh to the point where like people at rare kind of had some pointed responses that seemed like maybe they were aimed at him Uh, because he's this is exactly what this game needs.

Yeah, but then like the response from rare is like saying like hey You should honor the honor our terms of service which we have hopefully called the pirate code about how to be nice Like he's out there not being nice. He's out there being a pirate. Gotcha. Uh, and being a dick and people are watching it Yeah, and but it sounds like that's the game they built You know same This is an open world play how you want to play but also play by this text document of rules is a little Also, but it's code.

You know like if he's avoiding like some sort of cheat or something like that I understand but if he's just being a rude pirate in the pirate game Yeah, you know if you're being rude to children who are playing the pirate game, maybe that sucks Uh, but and you know, maybe you're not making it an inviting environment for other players But like that's kind of the game they made and rather than saying hey be nice in some documents I'm where they should build systems into the game that kind of make it the name of the game and see if thieves Yeah, these are bad. No, I were among thieves. Oh, exactly zero on her. Uh, they should do something about it in game Oh, yeah, they should send out their own.

Yeah squad of pirates. That would be great I would watch that guy stream. Yes. He's being hunted by fucking rare.

Yeah. It's the banjo's there. Yeah Halo the master chief collection. Oh, yeah, it's still getting updates I think it doesn't crash anymore.

I don't know. That's the joke. Yeah, uh, they have added a new Modern aiming setting, uh, let's do it that uh Basically, it's like smoother, uh, smoother aiming Yeah, exactly like a little less like the original halo and a little more like kind of current shooters and aim acceleration and all that sort of stuff Uh, you can turn it off. Uh, if you don't like it.

Here is my conspiracy theory This is what they want to put in halo. What's it called? Hill ultimate infinite halo infinite and testing the waters with this And they want to put it in there see if people freak out super hard and say oh god you changed my halo too much It doesn't shoot the same way Maybe I don't know if this feels like a test bed for the tech and like this this still hasn't come out on pc, right? The master chief collection.

Yeah, I don't think it has I always thought that that's where they were going with it and that's why they would because it's on game pass So it's something that anyone can kind of play as a part of that service Which kind of maybe gives them more ground to justify working on it Also, it's halo It's one of it is it is microsoft's pervious franchise if they just put out this collection left it for dead What would that say about that how much they do or don't care about halo? I mean, I think it said a lot about halo when they released that collection and That's not the quick like six months after six months. No, like literally this patch just hit Well, I mean like the six months of them trying to make it at least reliable Yeah, it's it's a game that's had issues for a good long time and it's bizarre They were running like closed testing for builds updated builds of the game. Like recently.

It's just a lot of it. It's weird Um, you know, I don't know that halo 5 necessarily had legs So maybe this is kind of the halo of choice for halo fans now So it probably makes sense for them to keep working on this and maybe focusing a little less on updates for halo 5 Uh, I think you're right that master chief collection have all the single player stuff in it. Yep. Let me check that out Yeah, it's uh, my only halo was od st.

Oh, man. Yeah, it's a cool game But it's like it's weird. It's weird that you would only play that one because part of the reason od st Is a cool game is because of how unlike other halo's it is. Yeah, so like if you play only that Yeah, I wonder what you would think of other halo's with that is your only Uh, point of entry.

That's it for news. Oh wait, uh, some street fighter pro tour stuff. Yeah a little bit Yeah, they're expanding it to get excited about it. Uh, it's a mix.

Yeah. Okay. Anyway, uh, so it's a new 3v3 north american league Um, what's interesting is that there's gonna be you know six like invitees like the top six ranked players in the pro league Um are gonna be team captains. Um, then it's under that it's gonna be um, six like online qualifiers And then after that there's gonna be people that are voted in from the community So you're gonna get like, you know, specific character um specialists and you know people that are really good You know in online world, you know, I can't make it out to events.

It's gonna be a really nice like mix of players So they're gonna be one from each tier on the team. Yeah, so yeah, they'll have some of the pro league online qualifier and then a community vote. Oh, it's cool. Yeah, it's gonna be you know a good roundabout I feel like having community voting in there is really cool because it's gonna Like you know from like our kappa and stuff that have sponsored players, you know, so go to events You know like evo and shit like that people that you'd never heard of before Yeah, and they're all character special invested in a way that puts them on an even playing field So you're not gonna have like, you know, some on some guy who's like pretty good online versus somebody who actually has the tournament experience Every time, you know, yeah, and then me I intend to win more fan votes What's a little worrisome about this though, and it didn't mention that in the press release But I dug a little bit on their cap and unity post they mentioned that there's a character ban um Function like they can say before the match like say they've got a fucking six zuku, you know That is that's what he's known for they can actually say, you know, the opposing team can say, okay, we're gonna ban zuku You guys can't pick him which sucks actually because I want to see that's like zku play and you know If that if the player really only knows that that one character that like there's so ham strong Yes, but the right to an instance where like let's say, you know, uh, there's a really good like their best player plays a different character You're not banning the best player character I feel like utilizing your ban will be an interesting kind of meta textual strategy that'll unfold because like yeah sure You could ban the zku players zku But at the end of the day don't you want to ban the best players best character Maybe you're well, not necessarily.

Yeah, but like maybe you're most afraid of the the unknown quantity Um, that could very well be the case. I don't really like the team formats. I do see you. I don't like this ban.

I mean, I don't know This seems to work okay for mobas. Yeah, the character ban stuff. Um, and also I I like the idea of players being like versatile Yeah, I do too I think that would be like and it's why I like, you know shitty weird side tournaments where it's like hey You're gonna play random characters every time yep or stuff like that like I think that's fun It seems like you know when when a person is versatile, they're picking like top of your characters. Sure.

Okay. Um, if you've got one sick zku player That's like really already knows, you know, you take that away and then you know, you're really fucking that player over. Yeah That whole team really yeah, yeah, I guess that means like, you know, these players either way I'm not gonna see the best play like I'm not gonna see the interesting thing You know what this game what this person's bringing to the team. I'm not gonna be able to see it But there are other tournaments where you will see that Because some of these players are you know online tournament.

Oh sure they're not gonna make it out two events Same thing with the community thing. We don't know if they're an unknown quantity Like I want to see what they're known for. I hope it works out that you know, like if there's certain characters that people are tired of seeing That those are gonna be the characters that they're gonna be like top tier characters that just dominate the meta If that's the way that it works out then fine. Yeah, that would be a nice end to it right I don't need to see any more views.

I really don't like I don't need the fuck I have a guy What's that? I'll always watch that that's true. That's true, but I never want to see another Abigail match It's stand. Well, he's too kind install.

Oh, jeez. Oh, well. I mean, okay when you put it that way Anyway, so that's uh starting up, uh, I think in April and they're gonna be running like weekly tournaments on Thursday Through June. Okay.

I've said anything else about further updates for the game. Um, not necessarily No, nothing about season passes or anything like that. Okay. Yeah, I guess that's the thing like kind of like are they done with it?

Or they have like one more character or what do they say? I don't think I've heard anything to see them Do you see a street fight or six that exists? Yes, like you know within the next year or two? Probably not.

I think you probably let it sit for a little bit. Yeah, I think they're standing on the space for a while. Yeah Yeah, I wonder um or you know if your cat comms you do something else first Is there another fighting game that you would try to bring back Uh to try to cleanse the pal a little bit before rolling right into street fight or six. Is this a chance for cvs 3?

No Yeah, I mean like that'd be cool. I feel like that in dark soccer It's always the two that people kind of clamor for starlight eight or three Right, you know, like a right new rival schools or something. You know, it would be cool Like something out of the ordinary or something like a cross tag or like the old the old uh, you know That era of yeah, so you think about like, you know, let's say let's say they never work with yeah Exactly. What if they never work with the marble license again, which I don't think they will.

Yeah, uh, you know Do they take that fighting style and try to find you know, do you tatsanoko tatsanoko to or something? That'd be cool Or or do they go try to find they go try to find another license to replace marble Yeah Netflix, okay. Yeah, all right throw some standard book in there. Mm-hmm.

That's cast of friends. Yeah, versus Barry Barry All right, I want to give you what's talking about them good sake. Yeah, I've already got one. Yeah, I've already coffee Yeah, uh, all right.

That's it for news. Let's move on to some emails. How about it? Yes, please.

Okay, where can I email you at bombcast at giantpom.com's email address bombcast at giantpom.com. That's right send it on in and we'll go through it And we'll take the good news or some of the really bad ones. I guess Uh Steve from michigan writes and says after listening to the most recent all systems goku and having your game of the year deliberations in mind I can't help but think what god of war would be like if goku and gohon were the main characters instead of crayo centreas If this replaced more to happen what would be the essential forbidden item goku goes back home to get when journeying to hell Uh, sorry and would any of the Norse gods be able to give goku a fair match or we simply obliterate everyone goku just like take off You died like halfway through go on just like fuck name was piccolo. You just play as go on Yeah, I guess maybe you would play as piccolo and go home Maybe that's the actual game.

Um I don't know if any of the gods. I mean goku's fuck gods at this point. Yeah, and if you read it a god Yeah, you saw that uh that movie, right? Yeah, I saw dragon ball super broly.

It was really good Like sounds like it didn't really well the box. Yeah number three was insane in america Apparently that hasn't happened for an anime movie in 19 to 20 years Yeah, it was honestly I was surprised by how good it was but like the writing was good They you know Brawley as a character was always just he's really big and really mad and they kind of tried to give him a little more of a backstory and motivation And then stuff like that and I went with a couple people who don't know anything about dragon ball They had a great time. They were like there's a lot more yelling than I thought there was gonna be but it was pretty good Yeah, I think I don't know that I don't know that I don't know that I want to see that until I've like watched Up to it or whatever because I'd yeah, yeah weird to go see it I've watched a little bit of super um going in and like You really don't need to know I'd say like go see it after you've seen all of Z Like if you want to see it, you know that would be the time that would be the time Okay, I feel like you would have picked up through osmosis What has kind of happened in super that I assume that jumping into the movie would be fine Yeah, really the only reference to the stuff from super is like beer is there sure hanging out? So you kind of might not know who that is and they just can't die from the game, right?

Yeah, there you go and they reference the tournament of power and they have blue hair and oh, yeah, well I'm saying god. I'm out Go could probably go get the power pole. Just want to answer or the fusion earrings. Oh Who he feels with his son could I mean that's not Dragon Ball Super's gonna end him and Gohan fuse that's kind of gross I thought I thought Dragon Ball Super already ended.

No. Oh, I thought they were done. Okay. They're a big ark just finished Okay, and then and then they still haven't translated all of it into like there.

It hasn't all aired in English. Yeah. Really? I thought it was simulcast I don't believe so.

Okay, so Ronald writes in it says the valus games were just bootleg Castlevania for people who didn't have a nintendo. That's the full email truth I think it's bullshit. This is valus. It's a bootleg Castlevania for people who didn't have a nintendo.

Oh, oh cool I think valus actually became like I think became hentai games in later years They were just they were size rollers. They were on the genesis primarily. Um, there was a turbo graphics game I think as well. Uh, it's a lady you run to the right and you attack stuff.

They were good Uh ed from fort river New Jersey, right? And it says now that we're coming up on the 10-year mark for modern warfare 2 What are your thoughts and memories surrounding the no russian level? Yeah, I guess it's been a decade since oh wow, that's no russian, uh Much if I came out now I guess like the climate hey right now. It's more like too much russian.

Am I right? I don't um Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Um, Yeah, I mean you you probably I had played it way off its facts kind of I knew going in what it was going to be and it was still it's still like Hard to do like I didn't want to pull the trigger. I didn't want to shoot those like, you know It was really honestly an effective story moment for a video game that Yeah, so it was weirdly involved.

So I got to play that game forms out. So, uh, no, you know what modern warfare 2 I did not Hey, maybe I did I mean I played it before that discussion had started up either way So I went into it not knowing anything about that aspect of the game Um And yeah, it was uh, it was kind of crazy at the time I feel like it is still kind of the touchstone moment like you saw some people referencing spider-man Oh referencing no russian in relation to spider-man it came out like there's kind of a no russian thing in there Which I don't know that that's not that's a no the thing that happens to spider-man is like shocking for that game But not on that forward level not close um And I think the no russian thing was the high point for that concept because call of duty would try to do it again and again And you know the game even this year even last year I still has a toggle in it to turn off graphic content and that's where that came from is like from from that and All right, maybe I'm actually maybe one over one had it with the new But by the way, it was like, oh, you know, you can kind of Turn this stuff off as a response to some of the the reaction to some of that But the thing with no russian is like You know, it is a hard to watch thing But at no point are you actually literally forced to put bullets into innocence So I played that level and we're like oh, I need to make this look good And thought that maybe I would actually fail the mission if I shot civilians Uh, and I did try to shoot the russians. Uh, and that bit it fails you out right there. No russians.

Okay. Sorry, sorry Um, but you know, you can kind of shoot in the air and put on a show. Yeah, um Which I thought was what you're supposed to do. Yeah In terms of no, you know, you can kind of do whatever you want uh to the civilians in that bit and you kind of get it either way It's still um I think it was like a you know for storytelling and shooters.

It was like a pretty powerful thing Like it was it was before it kind of became I think cliche to have your edgy moment And they would lean into you know fucking torture scenes and other weird stuff that I think got like a little too Uh edgy for its own good. It felt like they had a one-up. Exactly. Yeah, and no gosh And felt like the it was an escalation from the nuke thing in the previous game um without necessarily Being like corny or hokey or edgy for exactly.

Yeah, uh, it fit with the story Uh, it lent some gravitas to the situation that I think actually helped that story Uh, and I think a lot of games get that wrong. Uh, yeah, I don't know I don't that said I don't think I've actually seen that level in probably like nine years or so, so um Story with my house gone on fire. Oh, sorry buddy. My question is for Ben after you're fired Did you find yourself going exclusively digital?

I can't seem to bring myself to get attached to discs and cases anymore Yeah, I mean I've been edgy towards that trend lately just from like I had a lot of space at my last place So I ended up buying a lot of digital but now like especially because I mean in a house that doesn't seem like you know We kind of want to move this was never meant to be a permanent place It was like I don't want to settle this down with a bunch of extra shit So the thing after the fire uh not to like talk about my fire a bunch But it was really weird and kind of frame seeing everything that I had in like two boxes It was just like, you know, there's stuff that my parents still obviously like stuff from my past or whatever But like pretty much everything I had that I could take with me was in two boxes and seeing that and just thinking like That's all that has me like attached down was kind of freeing in a sense You could do anything Yeah, and like so I've kind of been trying to keep that momentum going and kind of re-kondoing up my life of like not really Attaching myself to physical objects that I don't need and so I've been buying a lot digitally Um, it's kind of a pain when I want to read download something But honestly like I'm just putting it on the background. I've got enough internet Yeah, that I can come back in a half hour and I got whatever I need Um, but yeah, totally like I totally have that understanding of like I never had anything close to a collection You know, I had a fair amount of games and an older console stored away like my 360s gone You know stuff like that, right? Um, but just like having the ability to be all digital now I feel like it's really nice There's something to be said to the holding onto to physical objects, especially with the you know We talked about at camera for the last week of the week before but like rights like holding onto right who owns what do you just Own the right to access this game, but you don't actually own the game digitally It's all very confusing and strange, but it's seamless enough at this point that I think you could get by totally digital I have too much stuff. Yeah, you know, and and I Am kind of coming to terms with that and trying to figure out like what stuff do I actually want?

Um, because I just have a lot of fucking weird shit and and I hang on to stuff in case like well What if this comes in handy someday? I should keep this flute literally a flute I can't play the flute. I was about that. Yeah, um, and I've had this flute in my garage for at least 10 years Probably longer and I don't need to hang onto it.

It's not it's not gonna come in handy And if it did if I really need a flute, I could probably get my hands off. Yeah. Yeah, how'd you acquire this? It's a great question I don't know if you don't really know.

Okay, it was someone's flute and now I have it And I'm not sure why it might have been a roommate that left it behind or yeah, I'm not actually sure okay um, but it's like a lot of stuff like that and then also all the game stuff and Uh, the game stuff comes in handy, you know, like we're you know, we're doing Breaking fighters exactly. Yes, like I'm literally pulling games out of you know, like I that's I Reorganized my garage over the break. It was primarily to say oh, I'm at the consoles in a place that's harder to get and put the games in a place That's easier to get uh And and so that I can pull fighting games to rank the fighters or you know, whatever we need some of this older stuff Um And so that's come really handy in a way that I'm like, oh, I don't you know, maybe I shouldn't get rid of any games Um And then sometimes I go through phases where I'm like what if I got rid of like 80% of my games I have over 4,000 games in that house physical physical. That's just physical.

That's not no digital items in that's just like physical Motherfucking video games and It's a fucking lot and I don't need a lot of them You know, some of these like Madden for 360 and you know, like old sports games like who's ever gonna want that? You know that they there's no point to holding on to that stuff other than well, I've got it so I might as well What if uh it comes in handy, so I don't know it's a dangerous preposition Yeah, all I know is my kid is uh, has not learned the ability to not touch the underside of discs yet So we're completely digital uh dumb boat for example You saw that uh, you know, we had the physical disc of that. Yeah, um, that popped up on upf one time. Oh, right?

Yeah, yeah, because they had to log in to my account and pop in the disc and uh, and now actually I bought a digital version of that It exists in our movie. Yep, it exists in our movies anywhere account, which is fantastic Because I can just set up a profile like anything under a certain rating. That's griffence profile. He can go in there You can play whatever the hell he wants and don't have to mess up my discs anymore.

Right smart Yeah, yeah, it's uh, I tried quizzing him at one because I'll hold the disc like you know the top I'm like touch touch and he'll touch that and then I'll turn around where he's not supposed to be like touch touch and he'll go No, we're getting there. Yeah, we're getting there kids are gonna grow up not knowing the pains of the Disc like you know cartridges, right? If you had a cartridge to a team, they'd say then you'd be a popular youtube video Um, I'm the switch is like whoa. Oh my god.

What is a cassette tape? I mean, I knew what an eight-track was even though I didn't use an eight-track. Yeah, uh, David writes in I'm late to the party on the book console wars, but I've just finished reading it It was fine But I had a few questions about something surrounding one of the moments that stuck out to me when uh Tom flinsky and al-neelson got their hands on the brand-new super famicom and super mario world Their first impression is that it's slow more of the same and boring in short They felt like it sucked We're then told that nelson felt the same way after finishing the game and that the general consensus from gamers and critics was also the same What? I was only three months last year in the u.s But I've been playing super mario brothers and mario three with my brothers and my dad for a couple of years by the time we got a sness in 92 Naturally being so young mario world blew my mind with how huge and open it was I know that most of my opinion is clouded by nostalgia, but I do truly believe that mario world's one of the greatest platformers of our time I could even argue that it is the greatest but anyway being so young I wasn't really hearing or caring much about others opinions on my games But the notion that generally at the time of release people disliked mario world is insane to me So my questions are what were your thoughts on the game when you first played it?

Did it really feel like more of the same was the general consensus around you that it was bad I've never heard that statement. I've never heard that sounds like the opinion of two people at sega On the foot on the floor. Look how slow you exactly. Yeah, uh We got something a little faster that we think is really gonna like a little bit too Um, no mario world was fucking incredible.

Yeah, if anything I actually maybe felt that way about mario three The same. Yeah, or or not liking it as much Like I I played one I played you know what passed for two here in the states and then with three came out Like I rented it. I didn't buy it I didn't feel the need to own it and I didn't own it for years You know until you know you get a cartridge for a dollar or something like that and I probably have like seven of them um and Yeah mario three to me was the game that was kind of like oh, you know It's different and I like some of the stuff doing. I really like the drums the sound effects and some other stuff But I didn't love the game and then notes.

I love the tail. Yeah, I'm a big fan of mario world Yeah, that was those huge stuff. The first issue of e gm I ever bought was the issue where it was just a fucking big blown-up screenshot of super mario world Yeah, when it was still like super mario brothers four Because it was you know, maybe not even out in japan yet or just about to come out or whatever it was because like I had to know more about that game and No, yeah, that game I sat down and played it and found every exit and like was obsessed with also was not a lot of other stuff to play on the platform It's not true. So, you know, I came into the series and turned a little bit later So that actually I don't think that was my first foray into it.

I'm pretty sure like went to the past was Oh, well, okay, then it was much later. I could see if you came to it late like having a different opinion of mario world for sure But no, it was still just as amazing. Yeah, but I've never done anybody say anything bad about that game. Yeah, but I wouldn't trust anyone Two top executives at Sega.

I can see very easily being like, oh this shit. No one ever like this. Everyone. I know thinks this game is garbage Yeah, I mean a little blue Uh, no, so mario world was as far as I can tell incredibly well received at launch even it was a Games good games still good.